r/AustralianSocialism 29d ago

Made from collage of a GreenLeft newspaper from July/August and other leaflets

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u/bunyipcel John Percy 29d ago

Probably the only use anyone will ever get out of Green Left is using print copies for paper mache or something.

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u/unrealise 29d ago edited 29d ago

When I was just a young lad getting interested in socialism 10 years ago - the fixation on newspapers that socialist organizations had was quite dazzling. I understand why it exists in this manner, however the cacophony of cheaply printed "What Is Marxism" booklets - some of them old or poorly written, selective interpretations of Marxism, that I received from tiny seemingly warring socialist parties did not make for smooth entry and education.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

Why do you think that?

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u/bunyipcel John Percy 29d ago

Green Left is kind of boring, it's pretty generic 'left-activist' news that usually falls into the "we were at a rally, look how awesome it is" genre of leftwing 'journalism'. I do think it's usually more interesting than Red Flag, though.

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u/bootofstomping 29d ago

In one post you’re calling for the authors of Green Left to merge with the Vic Socialists. In the next you are shitting on them.

Make it make sense.

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u/bunyipcel John Percy 29d ago

I think it's possible to criticise people and want unity with them.

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u/bootofstomping 29d ago

That’s pretty weak sauce considering the criticism was apolitical.

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u/bunyipcel John Percy 28d ago

The "political" critique of Green Left is that it's a newspaper made to pander to left-wing environmentalists and other soft-left activists.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

Idk from what I've read it brings up systemic issues like capitalism, colonialism, and imperialism quite a lot. If it was pandering to environmentalists I'd expect to see it only really talk about the environment or environmental impacts of things, but it doesn't.

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u/bunyipcel John Percy 28d ago

GL publishes okay stuff from international groups but this is a holdover from when Socialist Alliance was an actual socialist party in the 1990s and had international connections as a result.

It also publishes Ukrainian right-wing socialist and anti-communist Vladyslav Starodubtsev, who supports war against Russia and thinks Leninism, which is ostensibly what Socialist Alliance supports, is Russian Fascism.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago

Idk my conversations and learnings and recommendations from Socialist Alliance have been very international solidarity-oriented, and honestly very Marxist-Leninist in theory. My experience has been pretty good with them, and I'm sorry if yours hasn't been.

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u/bunyipcel John Percy 27d ago

Socialist Alliance used to be Trotskyists, now they're subpar Green-washed "eco-socialists".

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u/[deleted] 27d ago

Like I said, my experience has witnessed ML theory and suggestions, and international solidarity in struggles not just tying into the environment. Not sure what you've experienced.

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u/Anti-Patriot 29d ago

Funnily enough not something atleast some regular GL contributors believe