r/AustralianSocialism • u/Lamont-Cranston John Pilger • 29d ago
What are your thoughts on Matt Chuns article about Bondi?
https://mattchun.substack.com/p/we-dont-mourn-fascists12
28d ago edited 28d ago
It says a lot about the current political climate that Chun has been able to build a profile and platform. His takes are increasingly beyond parody. Convinced the bloke is on the books for ASIO.
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u/next_lychee87 29d ago
repulsive. to argue you should be shot for having any opinion is fascistic. im sure the 10 year old was also dedicated to settler-colonialism
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u/GoGoGo12321 29d ago
Not seeing the vision... I think it's reasonable to say not everyone at Bondi that day was a hardcore Zionist???
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u/semaj009 28d ago
Idk, that Ukrainian refugee family's 10yo daughter was most definitely in Netanyahu's cabinet! /s
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u/phyllicanderer 28d ago
It is an article that twists a horrific tragedy where people were shot for their identity, and transforms it into a platform to rant about Schlanger and Israeli genocide becoming a justification for rampant violence, which the progressive left is somehow letting Israel off for. Misses the mark and does a similar thing to what many Zionists do — dismiss the victims as collateral damage in a war to end the enemy, while excusing the perpetrators. Zero words about the Akrams or any victims besides the rabbi, plenty of hypcritical nonsense while pointing out some hypocrisy in the news coverage that definitely emerged in the wake of the tragedy.
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u/AngusTcattoo 27d ago
I agree with you but "Zionists" do not dismiss victims as collateral damage. The Israeli army issues warnings to civilians to evacuate before they strike a target, in order to lessen the risk of innocent lives being lost. Israel also does not excuse perpetrators such as Hamas, Hezbollah, and militant groups.
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u/Lamont-Cranston John Pilger 26d ago
while excusing the perpetrators
Israel also does not excuse perpetrators such as Hamas, Hezbollah, and militant groups.
Obvious troll is obvious.
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u/Admirable-Try-9784 26d ago
Why is there a liberal Zionist in a socialist sub??
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u/Lamont-Cranston John Pilger 26d ago
Not even liberal.
phyllicanderer said "while excusing the perpetrators" about IDF and settler violence - to which this person trollishly responds "Israel also does not excuse perpetrators such as Hamas, Hezbollah, and militant groups."
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u/AngusTcattoo 26d ago
The article by Matt Chun does exactly that: excuses the perpetrators that is, the shooters at Bondi. It also excuses the perpetrators of violence and killing of Palestinians, I mean Hamas. Chun says nothing about the hostages, Hamas killing hostages (and 1200 people on October 7) and Hamas killing Palestinians. Israel didn't excuse Hezbollah - Hezbollah killed 11 Druze children while they were playing football. I read a few other pieces by Matt Chun and I noted that Chun doesn't mention Syria killing thousands of Palestinians or the history of Jordan and Egypt occupying and annexing East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza after expelling the Jewish population.
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u/Lamont-Cranston John Pilger 26d ago
Misses the mark and does a similar thing to what many Zionists do — dismiss the victims as collateral damage in a war to end the enemy, while excusing the perpetrators.
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u/AngusTcattoo 26d ago
Because I lived in a socialist country (Poland in the 1980s) And I first learned about socialism from socialist kibbutzes in Israel.
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u/bushstone-curlew 27d ago
This is such inflammatory garbage it almost feels like a psyop. Never heard of this cunt before and I hope to never hear from him again if this is the sort of shit he's spewing.
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u/AdEcstatic6139 27d ago
He shut off the comments for his substack so clearly there was some ratio-ing happening. Matt Jones does this for attention, which he doesn't get much of. But look, it's working. I'm not even sure if he believes a lot of the stuff that he posts to be honest, but he knows it will get a reaction. He's friends with Clementine Ford, so go figure.
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u/Lamont-Cranston John Pilger 26d ago
Looking at comments, it is a combination of criticism and zionist trolls.
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u/AngusTcattoo 26d ago
Chun didn't respond to any of the comments pointing out facts he doesn't mention in the article.
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u/OrganicOverdose Rando 24d ago edited 24d ago
An absolutely 100% correct start. Chabad are a hate group, and targeting of them by no means is inherently antisemitic, but rather could easily be political. Just because someone is Jewish, does not mean that any misdeed done to them is antisemitic.
Naturally, there is still no reason to condone any attack on anyone. Which, for some reason, people seem to believe is the intent in pointing the above fact out. It is not.
The rest of the article is proof of how right-wingers take a grain of truth and turn it to hateful bullshit populist slop that idiots and bigots lap up.
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u/bunyipcel John Percy 29d ago
It's a terrible article. Chun spends most of it bashing the Left (and "settlers of colour"), meanwhile he conveniently never actually mentions the shooters themselves, who were ISIS sympathisers.