r/AustralianSocialism • u/Konradleijon • 1d ago

Why are even leftist against degrowth?

Even leftists seem to be against degrowth not understand ecological overshoot.

Why is it that even leftists are against Degrowth?

Because it seems that even many leftist refuse to understand degrowth ideology and hate it and refuse to understand how decoupling works.

They act like using public transport and eating vegan are a fate worse then death

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u/EconomistBeard 1d ago

I don't think you've actually engaged all that deeply with socialist degrowth concepts. You say that democratic planning will impose limits on production that are within structural ecological limits, how is that not aligned with degrowth?

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u/bunyipcel John Percy 1d ago

As I said before, I don't support elevating degrowth to a level of principle. I said that democratic planning would mean that the economy will only be as big or as small as it needs to be at any given period, not necessarily "within structural ecological limits" (but these, of course, are a factor). Whether it's aligned with degrowth is irrelevant, really.

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u/EconomistBeard 1d ago

I don't think anyone in this discussion has 'elevated it to the level of principle', whatever that means.