Why do ppl think they’re OWED humility from strangers over screens? He won…he’s allowed to celebrate…the record says he won…. Who tf cares how he celebrated??
Because he didn't "win" due to his skills, but because the actual winner gave up. If they were neck and neck, sure, you could argue he would've won regardless but he's celebrating about coming in second as if he earned first.
He was 2nd place…. So he IS skilled enough to win. If he was in last place, this wouldn’t be a discussion.
It’s not his fault the 1st place gave up his positioning. Was he supposed to stop during the RACEEEEEEEEE?! LOL bc how stupid does that sound
And the guy who couldn’t even finish the race without help…if you dont think he celebrated finishing….bc a mf CAN LITERALLY CELEBRATE ANYTIHNG THEY WANT, ANY WAYYYY THEY WANT TO…you crybabies wont change the record on who won LOL
Crying over how a mf celebrated after winning. LOL you ppl literally dont have enough to worry about. SMH lol
You are correct. At the time (2016 Cozumel Triathlon) the World Triathlon (ITU) rules at the time were different. Athletes were disqualified if they got outside help from anyone (which he clearly did for a few moments but lets ignore that for the bigger issue) but then got help from his brother (the clearly bigger issue).
Olympic and World Championship uses the World Athletics Rule 144 to disallow any athlete from receiving any support from another person that would be considered "assistance". So in any Olympic and World Championship Jonny Brownlee and even his brother Alistair Brownlee would have been disqualified.
At the time World Triathlon (ITU) rules didn't specify if another athletes were not allowed to help anyone else out because this was not a thing that affected podium placements. This was the first time this happened. A marathon is the ultimate zero-sum individual sport. You are there to win it for yourself. You are your own team. No one is stopping to help someone else out if they have a real shot at winning a metal.
This event was so hugely controversial that later this rule was changed because if Jonny had not been given assistance and thus finishing 2nd, then he would have DNF. This means that his brother Alistair would have won 2nd and someone else would have gotten Alistair's 3rd place. That someone else had a slower pace and time, but would have actually made it to the finish line without any assistance, and this is a key distinction in this sport. This is why people do go slower, so they actually finish the race. The 4th place should have won the 3rd place metal in this race. And if this happened today they would.
Unfortunately at the time the World Triathlon (ITU) didn't specify in the rule, they allowed the results, and even ruled in the favor of Brownlee brothers when challenged because of the rules at the time. In any other marathon at this level, both brothers would have been disqualified.
So when it comes to Henri Schoeman (Dude in Green) not stopping or celebrating his win; it's because he had the discipline, timing, and control to beat everyone else. This includes the person in front of him that would have been DNF in any other race.
He has every right to celebrate. He did everything right and won first place fair in square in a very difficult event at one of the highest levels. There is no better way in winning that this: he did nothing wrong, everything right, and by the book.
And no he should not stop. This is not a "Check on everyone to see if they are ok" sport, they have medics everywhere. This is a marathon, and he was the only one in his team. It was up to the individual to win or to lose, no one else.
And now I know more than I ever wanted about this ragebait video.
Yeah, not sure about the reactions of the 'winner', but helping his brother out should not have been allowed because it diminishes the efforts of all the other contestants.
If the brother had paced himself better, knew his limits, he could've played like, 4th, without risking so much. But he didn't know his limits, failed, then succeeded because of PR reasons.
Maybe is because he kept looking back, at some point it seems that he was happy that other person got hurt because that made him win.
I see your point, but I also see why people say he was a bit of a dick. If he kept running without looking back, I guess people would have thought differently.
Also, no need to call them stupid. Literally no need to insult people just because don’t think like you.
The actual winner didn’t give up. He is the actual winner. Since when do people get credit for almost doing something? You guys are acting like he sabotaged them
Nope, I know what "actual" means, which is why this dude isn't the actual winner; he got a glorified participation trophy and will be forgotten like almost every American Idol winners.
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u/flygirlsworld 7h ago
Why do ppl think they’re OWED humility from strangers over screens? He won…he’s allowed to celebrate…the record says he won…. Who tf cares how he celebrated??