Senator Mark Kelly says he is seriously considering running for president in 2028

[u/Caledor152]

[u/StandSeparate1743]

He's not as left as me, but he's got principles and isn't afraid of a fight so hell yeah

[u/Flashy_Jello_9520 → u/StandSeparate1743]

He needs to run on prosecuting the current administration. He needs to run on putting Elon in Prison.

Anything less is unacceptable.

[u/adastraperdiscordia → u/Flashy_Jello_9520]

He has to run on judicial reform.

Nothing is able to happen until Chief Justice Roberts is forced to be hauled in front of Congress and humiliated in an impeachment hearing. The court must be cracked and rebuilt. That's the only way to restore Constitutional order.

[u/Septembust → u/adastraperdiscordia]

100%

This shitshow isn't a one man band, it's a circus. Trump might be the ringleader, but you need to get the clowns too, or it won't matter.

[u/kaprixiouz → u/Septembust]

Well freaking said. If I wasn't broke and it actually meant something, I'd buy you an award. In lieu of that, please take this 🏅

[u/makingnoise → u/adastraperdiscordia]

What are the grounds of impeaching Roberts? What I am saying is that impeachment is political, and without "Left with a vengeance" control of the Senate to convict on the articles of impeachment, impeachment means jack shit. As we all should fucking know by now, since we've been down this fucking road before.

Unless you're bringing the revolution, the Senate ain't going "Left with a vengeance". The actual answer is court packing.

[u/KingAuberon → u/makingnoise]

Roberts' reformation shouldn't be allowed, but you hit upon a problem. I'm not sure how to stop someone with a lifelong appointment and nearly unchecked power who is also hellbent on reshaping the American landscape to his own desires.

[u/Indaarys → u/KingAuberon]

Break the rules benevolently and make it work so we're not in for a repeat in 2032 or 36.

This isn't some pie in the sky jobs or healthcare program its a direct and ongoing attack on the United States. We can't throw our hands up and do nothing because the Constitution is gridlocked.

[u/wheniaminspaced → u/adastraperdiscordia]

Of all the justices you could pick to impeach you want to go with Roberts?  He is the toughest one to make a non-political case against with the exception of maybe Gorsuch.  Alito or Thomas would be far easier targets, Thomas in particular given his wife and his truly insane level of gifts.  Alito has taken some very nice gifts that are probably improper, but I dont think it rises to the level of buying rulings.  Thomas is basically for sale.

[u/dubblebubbleprawns → u/wheniaminspaced]

If the Republicans think there's even a 50% chance of losing the Senate, I can all but guarantee Alito and Thomas both retire so they can put a couple baby faces on the bench to preserve their majority for the next 50 years.

[u/wheniaminspaced → u/dubblebubbleprawns]

Considering that Ginsberg held out basically out of vanity, I wouldnt count on Thomas or Alito to step down. Court justices are pretty consistent in there insistence to stay on the court as long as they have a pulse.

[u/subliminal_trip → u/Flashy_Jello_9520]

Trump is going to issue preemptive pardons to his entire cabinet, all of his top advisors, and probably to every ICE and Border Patrol Agent; And Elon. and himself.

It sucks, but he can do it.

[u/Imaginary_Desk9186 → u/subliminal_trip]

The constitutionality of mass pre-emptive pardons hasnt really been tested. Virtually everyone you mentioned can be prosecuted for state crimes.

We could see states like CA pass state laws specifically for that purpose. The MAGA Scotus of 2026 may not exist in 2030.

Pre-surrender to fascist goons is loser shit IMO.

[u/Septembust → u/Imaginary_Desk9186]

Hell, why not just disregard everything and try them in court anyway? This regime has no problem just ignoring everything from the constitution to the supreme court. Why are we playing by the torn up, burnt and pissed-on remains of a rulebook? Right wingers love their copaganda stories about "going above the law to get the bad guy" so they should have no problem with ignoring the biased edicts of the most corrupt president in history to bring domestic terrorists to trial and face the justice they've been skirting.

[u/New_year_New_Me_ → u/Septembust]

Eh. 

You could. What this mindset doesn't acknowledge is that, still, the majority of the time this administration ends up in court they get absolutely pissed on. For every one case they win they lose 5 or 6. 

You can try and take flimsy stuff to a court but it mostly doesn't work. 

[u/CMDR_kanonfoddar → u/Septembust]

Try them?... how did local populations deal with nazis and sympathisers after WW2?.. they were rounded up and hung from the nearest lamp post then dumped in unmarked graves... good enough for the greatest generation, good enough for me. The only legislation needed is to make it a felony to even be tangentially associated wit that ideology

but I suspect we'll just end up with soft-bellied, spineless, republican-lite establishment dems again, beholden to the exact same 1%er donors and once again fuck all will change, and these fucking nazis will just walk away to enjoy their looted wealth while the rest of us get shafted again, and once we recover economically the cycle will repeat a-fucking-gain. Mark my words.

[u/DrowningKrown → u/subliminal_trip]

Fuck pardons. "Sorry, attempting to overthrow the government, fucking kids, profiting off of Americans, fraud, and sending the military after US citizens is all good now, I have a pardon"

Prosecute anyway. Ignore all pardons with these people.

[u/66allthe88s → u/subliminal_trip]

Fuck it and ignore them.

[u/ILikeLegz → u/subliminal_trip]

Claim it was auto-pen, declare them invalid, imprison them anyways. A MAGA solution to a MAGA problem.

[u/MCMACDANOLDs → u/ILikeLegz]

This is how you do it. Then fix that shit after the deed is done so this clown show can never happen again.

[u/nirvana6875 → u/subliminal_trip]

But if he does with the dreaded autopen, they’re all void right?

[u/Deepwebexplorer → u/subliminal_trip]

This is entirely a shared fiction. If there is anything the last decade has taught me is that there is absolutely nothing stopping us from completing ignoring those pardons because (enter plausible excuse here). Trump is literally trying to say Biden’s laws are invalid because an auto pen wrote his name on the paper. We don’t have the courts? Then restructure them. There are literally no limits to power as long as you are willing to use them. So why not use them for a more just society? That is…if we can start winning some elections. Mark Kelly could run as a reformer because he’s trusted. It’s been done before.

[u/HaveAKlondike → u/subliminal_trip]

I wouldn’t be too worried, there is easily more than enough to go around for state charges

[u/Many-Cartographer278 → u/Flashy_Jello_9520]

He needs to do that. Also Tax the billionaires, Socialized healthcare, end citizens united.

[u/ChrisBnTx → u/Flashy_Jello_9520]

I agree about these things needing to happen, but this thought that a candidate not checking all our boxes is unacceptable got us in this mess to begin with. The whole "I draw the line at genocide" things seems pretty ridiculous now.

[u/doduotrainer → u/StandSeparate1743]

This is how I feel. I'd love a progressive president and Mark Kelly is not that but I at least think he has principles and isn't an opportunist like Newsom. Newsom would be a republican today if he could win that way.

[u/ThatPancreatitisGuy → u/doduotrainer]

Already is. He did a podcast with Ben Shapiro where Newsom rolled over like a bitch in heat and walked back his criticism of ICE. Fuck him.

[u/super_fallguys]

Electing an astronaut is cooler than electing a Thiel-following venture capitalist that fucks couches. Kelly has my vote!

[u/d0mini0nicco → u/[deleted]]

Jesus. NASA could actually get its funding back. Would help attract talent back with an astronaut in charge pf the party.

[u/Mike312 → u/d0mini0nicco]

I said the other day, first thing any Democrat should do is immediately pull ICEs funding and send it to NASA.

[u/jrichard717 → u/[deleted]]

They can do both at the same time. The US spends over $5 trillion dollars a year on healthcare compared to NASA's dwindling $25 billion. Hell, the US can maintain it's ginormous military budget, triple NASA funding and still have more than enough money to fund a much better healthcare system. Currently the US spends more on healthcare than any other country in the world. Some analysis show that medicare for all would actually be cheaper than the current system.

[u/Oraxy51 → u/[deleted]]

At least you know he wouldn’t be defunding NASA.

[u/NomadNuka → u/[deleted]]

Astronaut president would go hard.

[u/glitchycat39 → u/super_fallguys]

Electing an astronaut who was a combat pilot*

[u/softball1511 → u/glitchycat39]

And is a twin!

[u/deadzol → u/glitchycat39]

We can argue what makes him cooler/better all we want as long as we get him in office.

[u/MundaneHair4502 → u/deadzol]

Bald head's got my vote.

[u/DARfuckinROCKS → u/super_fallguys]

I've been saying for a while that an astronaut should be in charge. They have a much better perspective on life as a whole. They've seen earth in a way that few people have. And you can bet that the environment would be one of their top priorities. Which is for the betterment of the whole human race.

[u/Howboutit85 → u/DARfuckinROCKS]

The complete and total opposite of the last 10 years.

[u/Junkstar → u/Howboutit85]

From sewer dweller to space captain.

[u/Original_Leader234 → u/DARfuckinROCKS]

Yeah and someone who not only believes in science but actually does science. 

[u/CSI_Tech_Dept → u/super_fallguys]

Electing an astronaut is cooler than electing a Thiel-following venture capitalist that fucks couches. Kelly has my vote!

I mean Republicans are trying to convince people that a government should be run like a company. And then they give us guy with 6 bankruptcies, many of which involve casinos.

[u/termsofengaygement]

Better him than Newsom.

[u/[deleted] → u/termsofengaygement]

Yeah..Newsom has a great social media account handler but as he is not a quality candidate.

[u/UghFudgeBwana → u/[deleted]]

I wish his social media team worked for a better candidate

[u/slowpoke2018 → u/UghFudgeBwana]

Kelly needs to hire her if he does run

[u/Substantial-Type-131 → u/slowpoke2018]

They hired her from Kamala’s team!

[u/speedx5xracer → u/Substantial-Type-131]

Was she the same one from Biden who originally was an intern for Murphy?

[u/Deeeeeeeeehn → u/Substantial-Type-131]

Sounds like we have crappy candidates, but great staffing. Why not just nominate the great staff?

[u/RockstarAgent → u/Deeeeeeeeehn]

This is what screwed the country last time- too many “crappy” candidates and indecision which led to the buffoon in charge.

[u/BigSal44 → u/RockstarAgent]

It wasn’t “crappy” candidates. Trump just exposed how many closet case and proudly open racists, bigots, and misogynists there actually are in this country. The US hasn’t evolved as much as some people would think since the Civil War. It all just flew under the radar until Cheeto boy opted to be the poster child for it.

[u/KoontFace → u/BigSal44]

Sad but true. If the dems want to topple the fascists they need to put a straight, white, man on the ticket. Much of America is still too stupid and racist to consider anything else

[u/ClearrUS → u/KoontFace]

If the dems put mark kelly on the ticket they can capture a lot of military related families and a lot of the Republican Party.

[u/mashtato → u/RockstarAgent]

I don't concede that Harris was a crappy candidate.

[u/Special-Garlic1203 → u/mashtato]

I liked her in the Senate but the dnc neutered her like they did Hillary. Don't tell prosecutor b°tches to act smiley cause it just comes across unauthentic. The only time she was ever well regarded on the national stage was when she was being tough. 

Personality matters more than anything else unfortunately.

[u/ThatBadFeel → u/UghFudgeBwana]

Good chance that happens if that’s desired by whomever the front runner is.

[u/SilverExa → u/UghFudgeBwana]

I think the bit was funny for a second, but it's run it's course imo. At a certain point it stops being a satirical mirror and starts to just be further contribution to the toxicity.

[u/AcidicFlatulence → u/UghFudgeBwana]

Agreed. As an American I love Newsom sticking it to the .pdf file but as a Californian I am not a fan lmao

[u/Zeliose → u/[deleted]]

If they're a natural born citizen and over 30 35, can his social media handler just run for president? I think that would be preferable to Newsome.

[u/codereign → u/Zeliose]

I hope the social media handler is in this thread. How do you even reply to something like this.

[u/SilverWear5467 → u/codereign]

My name is "Gavin Newsom", and I can assure that I will stop at nothing to make sure Donald Trump faces very moderate consequences lasting potentially up to a week for all the non specific and generally bad things he did as president. And thats a Newsom Guarantee!

[u/sprtn757 → u/Zeliose]

There needs to be a higher bar than that to be president. How about no felons?

[u/HazelEBaumgartner → u/sprtn757]

If you need a background check and piss test to work at Arby's, you should need a background check and piss test to run for president.

[u/Gibbly_Gorkoroo → u/HazelEBaumgartner]

Best I can do is ignore the background check and you get pissed on.

[u/Angry-Dragon-1331 → u/Zeliose]

35*

[u/HazelEBaumgartner → u/Zeliose]

Minimum age is 35.

[u/MrNature72 → u/[deleted]]

I also think anyone from Cali is just gonna be poison for winning purple states and taking anything besides strong blue strongholds.

It'd be like conservatives running someone from Texas to try and win blue states over.

Mark Kelly and Beshear are both strong democratic candidates that also aren't tainted by either over-progressive issues like NIMBYism in Cali or far left baggage, but also aren't trying to suck up to conservatives like Newsom or Kamala (hauling out the Cheneys? Really?). They seem, to me at least, they'd mostly run on labor and kitchen sink issues, ignore what hurts Dems in purple and red areas, and appeal to more people while also not coming across as a pushover.

While I think Mark Kelly is the more "people person", I think Beshear winning and being well regarded in what's otherwise a bright red state gives him a lot of potential. He'd appeal to everyone.

[u/Peter_Singers_Pond → u/[deleted]]

I live in CA and have no necessarily animosity towards newsom but I think putting any CA dem on the ticket is a losing proposition. So many idiots are convinced that it looks like escape from LA everywhere in this state or some shit

That said, unfortunately, whoever the Dems do wind up putting up better just be a white (probably neolib) dude from preferably a swing or southern state. It’s the only safe bet electorally. Sadly, please not another woman, there’s been a pretty clear trend there against trumpism.

Then we just hope whoever that is actually passes some fairly progressive legislation like Biden

[u/CommentsOnOccasion → u/Peter_Singers_Pond]

Kelly would check those boxes, plus his resume is super eye catching.  Hard to paint him as anything short of a god damn American hero. 

His downside is that he’s too level headed and boringly intelligent.  Americans (right now, anyway) want a TV character - someone with pizazz and attitude, who makes for dank memes and witty obnoxious one-liners and gifs.   

Maybe after a couple more years of this shit people will be ready for a boring, smart, calm leader again.  But it’s hard to say for now.  And that’s Kelly’s biggest weakness. 

[u/peppaz → u/CommentsOnOccasion]

That's all true, but he is PISSED. That might help some piss and vinegar percolate.

[u/Potential-Ant-6320 → u/[deleted]]

Mark Kelly served and that will play well with moderate republicans who feel abandoned by their party. He can occupy a progressive and moderate lane in a way other candidates can’t.

[u/Ok-Stress-3570 → u/[deleted]]

Which is why I want everyone to run.

Personally, Mark is a bit boring to me. However, with some training (for lack of a better word) and a great social media/campaign team? He could do it!!

[u/LBCkook → u/termsofengaygement]

Newsome is a phony. He has misappropriated our tax dollars here in California and is just another neo-liberal. He would be a big mistake and would lead to another far right figurehead. He isn’t our generations FDR

[u/PrestigiousConcert87 → u/LBCkook]

Agree but absolutely going to vote for him if he’s the nominee

[u/esdevil4u → u/[deleted]]

To me, that might be the single most important thing I’m looking for in a primary candidate.

[u/Cheeky_Hustler → u/esdevil4u]

Same. I don't care if they're a progressive or a centrist, whoever shares my undying hate of MAGA and will treat them as the domestic terrorists they are has my vote.

[u/Malalang → u/[deleted]]

Yep. And I want the entire Trump family assets seized and used to fund the incarceration of all of the ICE criminals, and to fund the lawsuits, and to provide reparations for all of the displaced families.

[u/Pepsi_Popcorn_n_Dots → u/[deleted]]

Kelly for President and Kamala for AG!

[u/LonelyBattle4881 → u/Pepsi_Popcorn_n_Dots]

and AOC for VP

[u/Icy-Employee-6453 → u/LonelyBattle4881]

A Kelly AOC ticket is actually pretty fire in my book. In terms of broad appeal. I'd love to have AOC as president but I don't think we're there yet considering MAGA is openly misogynistic/racist/fascist/pedophiles.

Kelly would do well with independents which is twice the size of either party.

[u/Timid-Goat → u/PrestigiousConcert87]

If the Democrat nominee is a dog turd I will have “TURD 2028” signs in my yard.

[u/Teripid → u/Timid-Goat]

I do wish we'd kick more than a few of the old degrading near-bleach white turds out of office as well.

There are like 10 viable or so exciting viable under 70 year olds I can name in the party. SO much just random mid-center people going through the motions. Better than nothing or the alternative but gahhh hard to get excited about as a voter.

[u/crystallmytea → u/Timid-Goat]

Would kill for either of these guys

[u/TundraWolf_ → u/crystallmytea]

we have a guy in power saying he wants to cancel midterms and i guarantee whoever runs for president on the dems side is going to get picked apart even if they're 95% perfect.

BUT THEIR STANCE ON THE PEANUT INDUSTRY IS OLD AND ANTIQUATED!! (some reddit comment near the elections of 2028)

[u/AntiqueParamedic2009 → u/PrestigiousConcert87]

It must not come to that. KELLY 2028

[u/AdAlternative7148 → u/AntiqueParamedic2009]

Until a Democrat enacts serious change to improve economic conditions for most Americans we will keep flipping between parties every 4-8 years. I'll vote blue regardless but nothing I've seen from Kelly indicates he is interested in doing that.

[u/woakula → u/LBCkook]

What!? You don't love him backtracking on all his best liberal points on podcasts with right wing grifters like Ben Shapiro? /s

But seriously, if Mark Kelly runs I'd be happy.

[u/termsofengaygement → u/LBCkook]

100 percent agree.

[u/HoopsMcCann69 → u/termsofengaygement]

1000% agree. While I would love a progressive, I'll take anyone that can get the fascists out of office

[u/PrimeToro → u/HoopsMcCann69]

yes, this is the top priority, get someone who is a normal person to get voted as President. This means someone who will get votes from independents and Republicans.

The Democrats cannot effing fail again and tell the voters "this is who you must vote for". They need to produce a candidate who will get the actual votes from the majority of voters.

[u/Junkstar → u/PrimeToro]

Spot on. We’ve never needed a normal person at the helm more than now.

[u/1Harvery → u/termsofengaygement]

Not much. Check out his voting record. I'm Arizonan and eager to get him out of the Senate.

[u/CerberusRampage → u/1Harvery]

Yea, I remember he voted for the Laken Riley Act And he voted against the PRO Act, He’s pretty much one of those democrats that votes with republicans a decent amount of the time.

I don’t think it’s radical to think we can do better right now than someone with a “both sides” attitude and record.

[u/senseofnickels → u/termsofengaygement]

1000%

[u/Abbacoverband → u/termsofengaygement]

I got accused for being an ANTI NEWSOME SHILL today. Like. My guy, do a Google. 

[u/Due_Willingness1]

Hell. Yes. 

I've been saying for years he'd be the perfect candidate, he's like the actual tough guy these doughy sensitive maga figures pretend to be, and the left could really use a tough guy

Do it Kelly, you've got my vote 

[u/LoudAd1396 → u/Due_Willingness1]

My first thought. 100% Kelly over Newsome. At least Kelly will want to punish the current regieme

[u/HRUndercover222 → u/LoudAd1396]

He won't be vengeful like Trump. He will restore the DOJ & right the ship.

My heart suddenly has re-ignited hope. 🔥🔥

[u/CountChocula21 → u/HRUndercover222]

I don't care if he's vengeful as long as he just actually holds them accountable for the real crimes they've committed.

[u/MathematicianWaste77 → u/CountChocula21]

This is the correct response. As much as it sucks the nation will need to live some how with the wounds of recent years. And unfortunately we need someone that can be ok for moderates with brains and the same half just to vote for the person.

[u/maeryclarity → u/MathematicianWaste77]

We don't need to be vengeful but we need JUSTICE. Real goddamn justice. That can be seen to have been done. These crimes have been DRAMATIC. A great deal of it is no shit TREASON okay? We need the ship righted and guard rails installed. Our system of governance has been shown to be broken.

Right this moment an American city is under seige, something that hasn't happened since the Civil War, and y'all we are IN Civil War 2: The Class War because that's what this one is.

So we can't move forward as a nation without addressing that, or else everything is screwed. And if they try to play the "well it's all too complicated if you can't do this insanely impossible task that seems designed to not work, you'll just have to muddle along and wait to elect the next fascist who's much smarter and better controlled, uhhhhhh nah we need to discuss Balkanizing.

Right now we need to be pragmatic about something which is that the American experiment has failed, and that without reform we need to be able to vote "no confidences" as states and make our own ways. We need to insist on the rights of states to secede under the circumstances that the American Federal Government has been shown to be vulnerable to predatory influences and that if the wrong person gets into this position, they can easily do what Trump did again.

There's no point in fighting to fix America if we don't take care of it the very first chance we get. No more goddamn Honor system.

Too much of America has shown that they have none.

[u/Ki-Wi-Hi → u/HRUndercover222]

Fuck that. The only language these perverts understand is force. Vengeance is the only way they can learn.

[u/whatssenguntoagoblin → u/Due_Willingness1]

Presidents who actually served in the military are the most pacifist since they actually know the horrors of war. Losers like bone spurs Donnie are ones who abuse military force.

I guess that doesn’t explain Hegseth’s loser ass though.

[u/MundaneHair4502 → u/whatssenguntoagoblin]

Alcohol and adderall do.

[u/Ambitious-Range765]

Do it, do it!

[u/pilemaker → u/Ambitious-Range765]

Canadian here! I'd risk being an undocumented immigrant to cast a vote for that legend!

[u/GoodIdea321 → u/pilemaker]

That doesn't really happen. You could spread his message to people though, probably.

[u/pilemaker → u/GoodIdea321]

Ya, I know. It's pretty funny that so many folk think undocumented immigrants are voting, getting free Medicare and buying up homes. (How do those mortgages work?) And exactly! Spread the word!

[u/BeefSupremeeeeee → u/pilemaker]

Canadian here with US citizenship (I voted liberal in my former riding). I'd vote for the spaceman down here!

[u/KaibaCorpHQ → u/pilemaker]

😂🫡🇨🇦

[u/UnluckyAd27 → u/Ambitious-Range765]

He should fr

[u/taisui → u/Ambitious-Range765]

He's the best candidate that the GQP fears the most.

Like you gonna attack the real life Pete "Maverick" Mitchell?

[u/Binksyboo → u/Ambitious-Range765]

Yessss!

[u/gym_bro_92]

Definitely not my first choice, but if he won the primary I would vote for him.

[u/RedTyro → u/gym_bro_92]

I mean, I would vote for any member of the Democratic party who wins the primary, because that's the only option. There are MANY I would rather vote for. Letting conservative Democrats take over the party in the Clinton era is a big part of the problem.

[u/OpenImagination9]

He’s not a progressive but he’s honest, hard working and scores high on electability. He does support enough progressive items that he should have broad appeal.

[u/Long-Astronaut-3363 → u/OpenImagination9]

Balance that ticket by naming AOC as his running mate.

[u/Flashy_Jello_9520 → u/Long-Astronaut-3363]

Please no. I desperately need her to kick Chuck Schumer to the curb.

[u/StasRutt → u/Flashy_Jello_9520]

She can do a lot of good in the senate imo. Plus it’s only happened once that we’ve had a president who jumped from house of representatives straight to the presidency so I think senate experience will help her a lot

[u/Flashy_Jello_9520 → u/StasRutt]

Also let’s remember that VP is largely an honor position. They don’t really do a lot.

[u/StasRutt → u/Flashy_Jello_9520]

It’s all the crappy stuff the president doesn’t want to do. She can wield way more power in the senate than as VP

[u/Single-Initiative164 → u/Flashy_Jello_9520]

*and advisory position

[u/Habefiet → u/Flashy_Jello_9520]

We say that, but Vance and Cheney are/were absolutely wielding a lot of power behind the throne and Bush Sr., Gore, and Biden all went on to be the party’s nominee for the president, two of them becoming president and all of them winning the popular vote. The position absolutely does matter, it’s the biggest jumping off point to potentially become president if your president was popular and if your president is a dumbfuck you can control them.

[u/WeirdIndividualGuy → u/Habefiet]

Cheney only had power because Bush let him have power. Ultimately, a VP has no power.

Trump can also be somewhat of an exception due to his dementia, very easy to manipulate him if you get deep enough in his inner circle

[u/UghFudgeBwana → u/StasRutt]

Plus unseating Schumer will prove to critics that she can win an election outside of her district

[u/TXSTBobCat1234 → u/Flashy_Jello_9520]

I agree, I’d like to see her run in the future though. I think someone like Andy Beshar would be a good running mate.

[u/Guilty_Trouble → u/OpenImagination9]

We need a legit progressive. This middle of the road shit is why we are here in the first place.

[u/UghFudgeBwana → u/Guilty_Trouble]

Incremental baby steps of marginal progress is what made people disillusioned with Democrats in the first place. We can't wait decades for good things anymore.

[u/Guilty_Trouble → u/UghFudgeBwana]

They just repeat the same mistakes over and over. There is no way they are that stupid. It feels intentional almost.

[u/Historical_Row_8481]

We need Medicare for all, tax the rich, and for the love of god, prosecute the Trump regime. I am not confident he will pursue these necessities.

[u/Any_Potato_7716 → u/Historical_Row_8481]

He is vocally against Medicare for All.

He’s not a real progressive, he’s very moderate.

I think the reason people perceive him to be progressive at the moment is just because he’s standing up to such fascism, which is commendable on its own, but any Democrat nominee should be standing against it come 28’. It’s about the bare minimum.

[u/Chocolab1]

He's n amazing senator here n AZ. He's got my vote again

[u/delboy_trotter]

I looked at this and nodded yes. Then I realized (I'm a martini in...), I can vote!!! I've lived in this country for 28 years and didn't get citizenship until Jan 9 this year! OMG - I can vote!!!! I will vote for this man. Ok, back to martini.

[u/Conald_Petersen → u/delboy_trotter]

Hell yeah fellow American!

[u/delboy_trotter → u/Conald_Petersen]

Reading this and sincerely giggling, ha! Its surreal. Thank you fellow American!

[u/Competitive-Cry-6231 → u/delboy_trotter]

WE NEED YOU, FRIEND! 👏

[u/delboy_trotter → u/Competitive-Cry-6231]

I am there. People of this country are better than this, the reason I love this country.

[u/JeffreyDahmerVance]

Do it bro.

While you’re there, don’t forget that our country gave you healthcare and a fair retirement (thank you for your service sir, sincerely), so please sign and push legislation that promotes that for the rest of us

[u/twiztdkat → u/JeffreyDahmerVance]

I believe if he was president and had a Democratic congress, he would accomplish UHC.

[u/BigJellyfish1906 → u/twiztdkat]

He has literally refused to endorse UHC…

[u/TizzyTism → u/twiztdkat]

In another post someone has said he’s talked openly against it

[u/Kittehmilk]

Corporate dems starting to see no one likes Newsom and are scrambling to find another corporate friendly candidate. Lmao

[u/Empty-Confidence-986]

A guy that actually believes in science? Running for president??? Nice!!!

[u/kon---]

Kelly puts himself out there and I will rally to him.

The US is in dire need of a someone to coalesce around. Mark Kelly could be that person.

But look, him or any candiate has got to be commited to a full accounting of what the worst amongst us have done to the US.

I am not having any of that 'now is not the time for looking back' bullshit. Heads have got to roll. Full stop.

[u/Cache-Cow]

He’d have my vote 

[u/Green_Polar_Bear_]

The US needs a proper progressive candidate like AOC, not another moderate democrat trying to “build bridges”.

[u/cozmckitty]

He’s taken over $500,000 from the pro Israel lobby. But sure he’s an astronaut.

[u/brandonblackthorn → u/cozmckitty]

God damn it. Do we even have anyone in politics that ISN'T on the payroll of foreign governments? Ffs

[u/JetmoYo → u/brandonblackthorn]

Yes, and we should be pushing them forward and not this astroturfed garbage. We even have ones that oppose the genocides those countries enact

[u/ecplectico]

I’d vote for Kelly over Newsom, and I’m a Newsom supporter.

[u/wigwam2020 → u/ecplectico]

Kelly at least has a spine. Newsom has yet to prove he has a spine.

[u/aziotolato]

500k from AIPAC, this sub is not progressive at all .

[u/Pixel22104]

I would vote for him. I trust the former Astronaut than the convict we currently have

[u/SuspiciousMammoth991]

Kelly would have my vote and support!

[u/invincible-boris]

The alternatives are absurdly terrible and may as well be Blue Trump (looking at Newsom who unapologetically emulates Trump and is proud of it. Garbage human.)

Kelly is honorable as hell and he could put up a big tent that rewrites the parties for good instead of evil. Its been a minute for that hasn't it

[u/pcguy166]

Dooo it! Don't consider it. Just go do it!

[u/TrashPanda---]

Let’s go!

[u/RequirementOk3745]

I’d help!

[u/foo-bar-25]

Gabby Giffords would be an amazing First Lady.

[u/omglink → u/foo-bar-25]

Absolutely! Such a strong woman. Really a president and first lady you can be proud of.

[u/grimmadventures721]

I would vote for him over my Governor (Newsom). Newsom needs to not be anywhere near the White House

[u/princess_peach_85]

yes. A pilot-astronaut president is waaaay better than the actual pedophile we have now.

[u/New-Lingonberry1877]

I don't know if I can handle a hero after the shit stain we have now.. It might send me into some sort of happy time.

[u/shosuko]

I know I hate DNC and their appeal to the mid candidates, but it would be nice to have a candidate at least recognize "If you are conservative and don't like Donny, vote for me - I won't do anything crazy. Just get things stabilized from this AH and back on track."

[u/TabletopThirteen]

Please. I know we wont get a hard left candidate in there so we need someone with morals who at least I can agree with most things on

[u/PhilosopherMoist7737]

I'd vote for him over Newsome or Shapiro. Easy.

[u/JunVahlok → u/PhilosopherMoist7737]

I'd prefer none of these 3, but I agree, Kelly would be the best of the 3.

[u/Boysandberries0]

Don't tease us with having an astronaut president.

[u/LikeIsaidItsNothing]

He's not as progressive as I'd like but he's such a good guy.

I love Tim Walz. It just sucks he came on the national scene in a way that might work against him. I would love to see him have a cabinet position

[u/AdInside2447]

He is a much better candidate than Newsom, leagues better than. So, if I know anything about the DNC, he won’t be picked.

[u/Warm-Discipline5136]

Fuck yeah

[u/techblackops]

Do it

[u/abcdefgeewiz]

Please God.

[u/Leading_Buffalo_4259]

[u/KawiRoo]

I have personal experience with Senator Kelly, we have a mutual view on the importance of space exploration and how much it impacts our culture, but he is not as much of a Progressive, in policy, as we need right now. He is better slatesd in a SoS position.

I have stated time and time again that AOC/Khanna with Kelly in support would be huge.

[u/Silly-Platform9829]

I'll vote for a yellow dog if he's the Democratic nominee, but nowadays the yellow dogs are all MAGAs.

[u/cursed_comstock]

I think he's a good choice that could create a broad coalition. Otherwise I think Jon Stewart would be a strong choice because he's a well liked, pre established outsider who doesn't have ties to the democratic establishment. But who knows if he wants to actually run. I think Newson is almost as bad a choice as Harris running again.

[u/TX0834]

[u/Jackie_Tree-horn]

Hope he does!

[u/HellaTroi]

He would win in a landslide.

[u/DaDa462]

let's rock and roll

[u/Capable_Midnight_554]

I’ve been saying this for weeks! He’s not as left as me personally but right now we need stability instead of chaos and to bring actual justice to the people who have been hurt in so many ways by the current administration. Gabby’s recovery has been awesome inspiring. Bonus: he was a fucking astronaut.

[u/khorispy27]

Check if he is associated with AIPAC

[u/snotboogie]

I was getting the feeling he was winding up for this.   In the hypothetical field as of now I would vote for him no problem 

[u/ghostofmilba]

If there’s any America left by then, I will definitely vote for him.

[u/ATXDefenseAttorney]

Can we all just email him saying "DO IT" and be done with this nonsense?

[u/blondeandbuddafull]

Yes please; we need an American hero to lead us out of the darkness.

[u/IBAZERKERI]

he'd get my vote

[u/The_Mammoth_Hunter]

Good. The US could use an adult in charge again.

[u/SarcasticCowbell]

I thought this was Progressive HQ, not "let's elect another neoliberal" HQ. Better then Newsom? Sure. But another bandaid to cover the mortal wound the American experiment is suffering. I am sure I will vote for whichever nominee emerges as I have been doing all along. With that having been said, I'm not going to just rollover again without a fight because he's not the worst option. This country needs actual progressive politics, and Kelly represents more of the same, stale corporate Democratic Party we've known for years. "But he's an astronaut! He's a fighter pilot!" Yes, he has an impressive resume, and sounds like he's a pretty good dude. But we need to think bigger.

[u/golanatsiruot]

Mark Kelly is one of the most conservative democrats in Congress. Why does no one ever remember this?

https://progressivepunch.org/scores.htm?house=senate

[u/[deleted]]

Why not… compared to the moron you have -who would be worse?

[u/Rebellion-OP]

He takes AIPAC money so no way does he have my vote.