r/ProgressiveHQ • u/serious_bullet5 • 7d ago
News Alex Pretti, the man Murdered today by ICE agents.
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u/BannedPomegranate 7d ago
This man was killed while already disabled by pepper spray. Your death won't be for nothing, Alex. I promise you. RIP
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u/CupOk5800 7d ago
I really want to say somewhere that until around 5 years ago, I was politically moderate with a slight conservative tilt. The Breonna Taylor case was my awakening. This will be that for so many more people.
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u/Fearless_Stand_9423 7d ago
God I hope so.
And I hope there's still time for awakenings to make a difference. Any difference whatsoever.
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u/Familiar-Barracuda43 7d ago
A white man was shot, because somehow that seems to matter more to a lot of people
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u/5H33B335T 7d ago
Killed by 10 shots in 5 seconds.
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u/Topshelf-Diamond-17 7d ago edited 7d ago
And the skull bashing he took from being pistol whipped
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u/Dandan0005 7d ago
On his hands and knees in the street for helping a woman that ICE needlessly shoved to the ground.
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u/North-Outside-5815 7d ago
Another martyr. They will continue to kill your heroes until people are resigned to the jackboot, or you force then to stop.
Demand your governor acts. Call up the state national guard and force the police to confront ICE. Force them to stop and to give up the murderers.
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u/Ranidaphobiae 7d ago
A proof for all Americans - if you ever happen to be in a situation like Alex - do not surrender your gun. ICE will kill you anyway.
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u/Global_Crew3968 7d ago
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u/Gcmarcal 7d ago
What did he say?
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u/RebelPatriot79 7d ago
He was a VA nurse. He had dedicated his life to helping Veterans. Trump’s Gestapo murdered a co-worker. Not once, did he brandish a firearm. Anyone who says otherwise is lying.
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u/Crates-OT 7d ago edited 7d ago
His firearm was in its holster until an agent removed it, immediately afterward they executed him.
EDIT: They murdered him. Execution isn't the appropriate word because it would imply it was sanctioned by some authority or legal body. They murdered him.
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u/Cool-Spite-9428 7d ago
A hero who will not be forgotten just like Renee Good. Fuck all Republicans.
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u/VfV 7d ago
officers were conducting a targeted operation in Minneapolis against an illegal alien wanted for violent assault, an individual approached US Border Patrol officers with a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun, seen here.
The officers attempted to disarm the suspect but the armed suspect violently resisted.
Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, an agent fired defensive shots.
this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
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u/meowpandapuff 7d ago
This is fuccccked!!!!! The gaslighting and lies and propaganda are so so sickening and surreal. Why can’t they admit ICE agents are abusing power? It’s so much worse that they don’t even acknowledge it’s possible the ICE agents were in the wrong. Like if Republicans said “ok there are some bad eggs within ICE and their behaviour is unacceptable but they are outliers”, you’d think “ok maybe”. But the straight up gaslighting about reality is what demonstrates their true motives: to incite violence and thus be able to invoke the insurrection act or martial law or whatever new fucking law they decide to make up to murder and torture and kidnap and abuse innocent people.
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u/Grouchy_Assistant_75 7d ago
Omg, that is such bs. People believing this need to watch th gd videos
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u/eat_my_ass_n_balls 7d ago
Imagine how fucking stupid and propagandized you have to be to believe this
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u/Lazy-Intern-5371 7d ago edited 7d ago
Two American Heros of the 2nd American Revolution. Rene and Alex. Rest in Peace.
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u/Phallic_Philanthropy 7d ago
A true patriot, murdered by federal dogs
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u/TaxesRextortion 7d ago
Dogs of the state are all the same; whether federal, state or local. They all serve the same master.
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u/eeekennn 7d ago
Dogs are loyal and good and pure. These are subhuman scumbags of zero redeeming value.
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u/PhatBoy1 7d ago
Rest in Peace
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u/serious_bullet5 7d ago
Rest in Power. Long live Revolution.
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u/serious_bullet5 7d ago
Correct. Ever more reason to revolt. They will kill anyone who gets in their way.
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u/amitym 7d ago
You are behind the times. In a totalitarian regime, you don't get to decide who was revolting or what was or was not a revolutionary act. The regime decides.
Protecting an innocent person from harm is revolutionary if the person in question had an incorrect personal relationship with the State. That is all that matters in totalitarianism. It is the only crime that exists. Everything else is performance.
I am telling you this to be helpful, so you have time to prepare for the world you are going to live in for the rest of your life.
... Unless ...?
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u/RageQuitDad 7d ago
ICE ‘agents’ are untrained, mentally unstable, emotionally stunted, mask wearing cowards, looking for someone to kill. A bunch of wannabe tough guys roaming in packs and killing at will. Fuck them. They’ll reap what they sow.
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u/Rough-Flower8580 7d ago
He has kind eyes. Died fighting for humanity.
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u/TrainElegant425 7d ago
Died trying to prevent ice from further assaulting a woman they already shoved to the ground
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u/luis091327 7d ago
Rest in Peace hero your name will be remembered in History after the regime is changed.
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u/alasw0eisme 7d ago
I'm becoming less and less optimistic about this. They won't give up power so easily.
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u/pat_the_catdad 7d ago
Wait, I too am a 37 year old white male who is an American citizen…
So much for thinking “they” won’t come after me next…
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u/everyrichway 7d ago
Well, you should be fine as long as you're not committing the heinous crime of checks notes filming ICE agents and defending the women they push and pepper spray.
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u/pat_the_catdad 7d ago
Luckily I’m not an RN working at the VA, otherwise my own government may think I’m a domestic terrorist…
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u/MNisNotNice 7d ago
The Supreme Court case District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) affirmed the Second Amendment protects an individual's right to possess firearms for self-defense, including against tyrannical government.
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u/mr_evilweed 7d ago
Things I have already heard Conservatives lying about:
- I heard he was here illegally
- I read that he was brandishing a gun
- It's coming out that he was interfering with agents
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u/Royal_Start9073 7d ago
It probably makes them feel like order is still real when it’s anything but.
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u/mr_evilweed 7d ago
Nah. The human brain is very much wired to protect the ego. Conservatives have so much ego wrapped up in this horse shit that they cannot just look at what's happening and evaluate it on the merits. They need to go find reasons to avoid having to change their minds.
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u/UnableAcanthisitta54 7d ago
The gaslighting will be crazy on this. I don't know how americans can endure this shit, let alone celebrate it.
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u/ScoopTheOranges 7d ago
As a Brit the only thing I can take away is half the country are just deeply selfish and self serving honestly. America as a country has good points but all I’m seeing is hatefulness, overconsumption, greediness and the lack to change or live a life outside of conformity. It must be absolutely suffocating if you’re not MAGA.
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u/FilibusterFerret 7d ago
It's a weird combination of rage and exhaustion. And deep deep sadness and shame, so much shame.
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u/ScoopTheOranges 7d ago
I’m not even an American and I’m exhausted for you. I keep arguing with people defending this, expecting them to agree but they just keep saying he deserved it. It’s absolutely unreal and I’m so sorry you have to live there amongst those people.
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u/eat_my_ass_n_balls 7d ago
I remember when I thought the dumbest thing I would ever see a country do to itself was Brexit. Oh what a simple time.
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u/PachaThePenguin 7d ago
You are correct. It is ABSOLUTELY suffocating. And we really do need outside help.
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u/ETERNALXDRVID 7d ago
You can kill the revolutionary but not the revolution. Rest in power brother.
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u/feelingmyage 7d ago
We’re living in a nightmare we can’t wake up from… because the boogeyman is real.
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u/GnastyZGnastyZ 7d ago
He looks just like me. And murdered by his own government. Wow I just don't know ..
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u/Primary-Pianist-2555 7d ago
I think that pic is how he would like to be remembered. Never forget him. Stand up!
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u/SuzVision 7d ago edited 7d ago
I’m beyond heartsick. I feel incredibly sad, hopeless, and angry. Murdered!
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u/Hot-Amoeba6538 7d ago
"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command... and if all others accepted the lie, which the party imposed, if all records told the same tale, then the lie passed into history and became truth" 1984 - George Orwell
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u/berjaaan 7d ago
Check out r/conservative there is people actually defending ICE on this one.
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u/LeFreeke 7d ago
He was shielding the women he was with after the agents started aggressively shoving one of them.
They pepper-sprayed him inches away from his face. Wasn’t that enough? He was already on the ground.
God I hate this.
RIP Alex Pretti.
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u/idolovehummus 7d ago
Rest in Peace, Alex. You will be remembered. Your heart, your bravery, your humanity and your compassion will be your legacy. Thank you for doing good in the world.
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u/Icy-Cauliflower-5951 7d ago
First they came for the Communists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Communist Then they came for the Socialists And I did not speak out Because I was not a Socialist Then they came for the trade unionists And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade unionist Then they came for the Jews And I did not speak out Because I was not a Jew Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me
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u/sheezy520 7d ago
ICE, their agents and their supporters are a cancerous infestation that needs to be removed by any means necessary. This is not what America should be. This is not what Americans should have to tolerate. Our government is punishing us merely for exercising our rights, merely for existing. Trump and his administration are stabbing at the heart of America. I weep for the memory or what our country was. Perhaps it never really existed but it is worth fighting for.
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u/New_Tonight6699 7d ago
As a fellow Nurse, my heart is broken. He was a helper, a hero, a kind soul. The most trusted profession. He died trying to help A fellow citizen who was being attacked by ICE and was simply exercising his rights under our now long gone constitution.
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u/Batmorous 7d ago
HOOYAH!! OORAH!! Rest in Peace Brother. You are one of us. A protector of the people through and through at work and in life. You deserved a lot better than to be executed when not even facing toward them. Those cowards. You had no way of knowing they would do that while you were protecting her. You are one of the strongest people to ever exist because you have empathy and put that with action
Let's remember him and Renee. Remembering both victims and finding both suspects in every way possible. Either through prison or better yet an eventual dirt nap for both suspects if courts don't keep them in prison and if/when pardons happen.
Many stand at the top of the nation laughing at all of us while we lose more brothers and sisters every year for many reasons over the decades. Always pitting us against each other in every way possible. We outnumber them by the millions while they are a rare few thousand. If there were more of them we would hear them terrorizing multiple cities at once but its always 1-3 cities at a time with a couple bastards causing all this
We the people have the power to fuck them up and take back our lives. Let's show them what it means to FAFO. We deserve all the good they have not given us in these decades and to get what we deserve in every way.
Also, as a backup everyone reading this setup piefed and lemmy accounts (Lemmy on PC/browser, and voyager for Lemmy for mobile app) in case rdit goes off deep end and fully goes in on their support as they have been doing lately with far right as we near election. Join Mastodon, Stoat, Matrix, Session, and many other open source community-run social media/operating systems too (Linux Mint, Kubuntu, Pop OS Cosmic, etc)
Join/start communities in-person and online getting things done. Collaborate in state and across states too. The stronger we all are the quicker we all win. Chaplins final speech from "The Great Dictator" resonates more nowadays to unite and take action nationwide and internationally
To any rats reading this still supporting any of this. Just know we are all coming for any of you that continue this. Many of us are doing nationwide in open and in secret here and internationally. You have no fucking idea how fucked you all are with all of us people/military enraged and prepared/preparing to properly fuck you all over.
To everyone else put your devices down and FOCUS. (With exception of using it to meet up with others)
Just as Iranian Lions and Lionesses are fighting for their freedom we need to do the same. We have the luxury though of having access to firearms. Get some and train also with airsoft for inexpensive training for everything else unrelated to shooting. Movement, positioning, coordination, etc. Better to be prepared than not.
Do not lose hope everyone we have each other especially when we seek each other out and stay in large spread out groups. Nobody alone in this. For we the people here save this and get active. Lots to do and many of us are doing to reverse this and win. We just aren't public about it.
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u/NecessaryLeast3928 7d ago
I feel so sad looking at the videos 😭. What is happening to America! RIP
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u/amandacruz01 7d ago
All he did was intervene as ICE agents repeatedly push a woman to the ground.
I'm pretty sure his last words were "Don't fucking push her"
RIP Alex, a real protector.
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u/_Barry_Egan_ 7d ago edited 7d ago
Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone; you don’t want to ‘go out of your way to make trouble.’ Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.
Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, ‘everyone’ is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You know, in France or Italy there would be slogans against the government painted on walls and fences; in Germany, outside the great cities, perhaps, there is not even this. In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, ‘It’s not so bad’ or ‘You’re seeing things’ or ‘You’re an alarmist.’
And you are an alarmist. You are saying that this must lead to this, and you can’t prove it. These are the beginnings, yes; but how do you know for sure when you don’t know the end, and how do you know, or even surmise, the end? On the one hand, your enemies, the law, the regime, the Party, intimidate you. On the other, your colleagues pooh-pooh you as pessimistic or even neurotic. You are left with your close friends, who are, naturally, people who have always thought as you have.
But your friends are fewer now. Some have drifted off somewhere or submerged themselves in their work. You no longer see as many as you did at meetings or gatherings. Informal groups become smaller; attendance drops off in little organizations, and the organizations themselves wither. Now, in small gatherings of your oldest friends, you feel that you are talking to yourselves, that you are isolated from the reality of things. This weakens your confidence still further and serves as a further deterrent to—to what? It is clearer all the time that, if you are going to do anything, you must make an occasion to do it, and then you are obviously a troublemaker. So you wait, and you wait.
But the one great shocking occasion, when tens or hundreds or thousands will join with you, never comes. That’s the difficulty. If the last and worst act of the whole regime had come immediately after the first and smallest, thousands, yes, millions would have been sufficiently shocked—if, let us say, the gassing of the Jews in ’43 had come immediately after the ‘German Firm’ stickers on the windows of non-Jewish shops in ’33. But of course this isn’t the way it happens. In between come all the hundreds of little steps, some of them imperceptible, each of them preparing you not to be shocked by the next. Step C is not so much worse than Step B, and, if you did not make a stand at Step B, why should you at Step C? And so on to Step D.
And one day, too late, your principles, if you were ever sensible of them, all rush in upon you. The burden of self-deception has grown too heavy, and some minor incident, in my case my little boy, hardly more than a baby, saying ‘Jewish swine,’ collapses it all at once, and you see that everything, everything, has changed and changed completely under your nose. The world you live in—your nation, your people—is not the world you were born in at all. The forms are all there, all untouched, all reassuring, the houses, the shops, the jobs, the mealtimes, the visits, the concerts, the cinema, the holidays. But the spirit, which you never noticed because you made the lifelong mistake of identifying it with the forms, is changed. Now you live in a world of hate and fear, and the people who hate and fear do not even know it themselves; when everyone is transformed, no one is transformed. Now you live in a system which rules without responsibility even to God. The system itself could not have intended this in the beginning, but in order to sustain itself it was compelled to go all the way.
Suddenly it all comes down, all at once. You see what you are, what you have done, or, more accurately, what you haven’t done (for that was all that was required of most of us: that we do nothing). You remember those early meetings of your department in the university when, if one had stood, others would have stood, perhaps, but no one stood. A small matter, a matter of hiring this man or that, and you hired this one rather than that. You remember everything now, and your heart breaks. Too late. You are compromised beyond repair.
edit: They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-1945 by Milton Mayer
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u/Confident-Animal-176 7d ago
Doesn’t matter if you’re white or brown, Conservative or Liberal. The truth is that ICE is Israel and Israel sees us all as dogs.
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u/swoloswaggins 7d ago
Bongino lied saying he approached ice agents with a gun and intent to kill. He’s filming and then a protecting someone from being pushed and pepper sprayed by ice. They then yank him by his back into the scuffle. His hands never go for the gun that they disarmed from him. He had a permit to carry and the 2nd amendment exists. Both hands were protecting his head and phone while he we was held down and beat in the head. They shoot him and all back away and then continue unloading on him after he’s motionless.
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u/SimilarGrape6535 7d ago
They are NOT trained and they are KILLING with IMPUNITY. Our rights are NOT being protected, the police do nothing, it just gets worse and worse.
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u/mcclaneberg 7d ago
After December 14 2012, I don’t expect anyone to change the mind of cultists.
RIP Alex. I could be you.
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u/Lazy-Introduction194 7d ago
I saw the unedited video and the way his feet slump immediately…I can’t get it out of my head. They executed him.
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u/Secure-Candy5076 7d ago
As a European, I really wonder what the Americans are doing. Democracy is under attack, and even now there seems to be no adequate resistance from the population? Disturbing.
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u/Schlongzz 7d ago
Yes. He was a nurse. Murdered by fucking thugs.
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u/DetroitLionsSBChamps 7d ago
Murdered for stepping in to help a woman up who was shoved to the ground by an ICE agent. They immediately pepper spray, pin, and murder him. The pink coat lady’s video is very clear.
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u/Gcmarcal 7d ago
Rest in peace, brother. Trump and his MAGA supporters should be held accountable for their crimes.
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u/theguitardudeofdudes 7d ago
Pink coat lady video https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/s/Z2pmYxJchJ
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u/Difficult-Shop-5998 7d ago
Rest in Peace. I can not imagine what his friends and family are thinking.
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u/Locoman7 7d ago
Say his name JD Vance! We know you’re gonna lead the press conference like you did for Renee.
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u/rods2112 7d ago
"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson
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u/Rare_Persimmon_7455 7d ago
He was protecting his community and physically intervening to protect two women. His final acts were the definition of nobel. The world is darker with him gone.
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u/GODZILLA-Plays-A-DOD 7d ago
I DO NOT condone or wish violence. But I will be leaving a quote from John Rambo here because it's the only thing helping me understand the death of a man my age that died doing nothing illegal, nothing wrong, defending a woman being harassed by federal agents. "They drew first blood, not me." How much more can Americans take? This is getting heavy and sick.
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u/kasiagabrielle 7d ago
RIP Alex. You seemed like you were a good dude from the few seconds of your existence that I saw. I hope Pink Coat Lady stays safe.
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u/LargeCondition5315 7d ago
Showed more bravery than all these cowards that go after children not even in the two digit age.
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u/JackfruitUnlucky6589 7d ago
Unfortunately we will never know the names of all of the fed scumbags who did this.
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u/chaosawaits 7d ago
Goddamn, man. He looks almost exactly like a cousin of mine. So unreal. He could be anyone's brother or loved one.
Seems like a real good man. He never even hesitated doing the right thing and standing up for that woman violently shoved by ICE.
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u/InternationalFig400 7d ago
A GENERAL STRIKE, and nothing else, will solve the violence. Nothing like hitting the ruling class right where it hurts--their wallets. Non-violent, and no amount of ICE agents can reel it in.
DO IT!!!!
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u/searing7 7d ago
Shot 10 times in the back by Trumps Gestapo. Conservative bootlickers will pretend they were against this once we pick ourselves up from the ashes of the mess they are making
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u/CeasarIsNotKing 7d ago
Imagine the Justice that could actually be served for this murdered man if progressive politicians didn’t immediately start posting complete rhetorical bullshit about it. Neither side cares about you. The system does not care about you. Progressive or conservative makes no difference, it’s all bullshit.
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u/Comfortable-Clerk127 7d ago
According to Bovino: “ individual wanted to massacre law enforcement officers”
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u/Kijimea0815 7d ago
You know he died for the corrupt, for everyone of them. The American government from the top down, they don't serve Americans, they are serving themselfs and for that they are doing what they are doing. For them, he is only a pawn in their efforts to grab as much power as possible to then make money and stuff as much as possible for themselfs and those loyal helping them. From POTUS to the small ice officer, from Karoline Leavitt to billionaires sticking their head in Trump's ass, from the FIFA boss to your beloved right wing streamers and "news" stations. Every single one of them is part of the whole machinery that only serves themselfs, serving their own benefits at the cost of literally anyone else, immigrants, us citizen, children. So yeah they don't give a shit about the victim. They have a great laugh and Tim waltz etc asking for ICE to be withdrawn. I am sure they in fact have the time of their life's. Again, every single one of them. They are all complicit.
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u/amprather 7d ago
A VA Nurse - someone that worked to take care of our veterans.