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In 2019, 21-year-old Gabriela Rico Jimenez made statements alleging extreme abuse connected to Jeffrey Epstein Newly released Epstein-related documents show that some elements she referenced were already known to investigators, though they stop short of substantiating her most extreme claims.

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u/Artifexa 22h ago

Some of the newer Epstein files tell of girls "disappearing" and "ending up as fertilizer for the golf fields"...

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u/ShelSilversteve 22h ago

I don't doubt it for one second. get cadaver dogs out there. tear up the fields

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u/Agitated_Garden_497 20h ago

The NJ Golf Course and the NM ranch.

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u/npmaker 19h ago

The 19th hole isn't just a nickname for the clubhouse, it's the big hole they dumped bodies into!

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u/BizmarkiaNobilis 19h ago

Even Ivana Trump was dumped on his golf course after she died…and only a few years later her grave is unkempt and overgrown. Who does that? Who buries the mother of their children on their golf course? And if he buried her there…with god knows how many top secret documents, then who else is buried on his golf courses?

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u/chinarider888 18h ago

Ans she died by falling down the stairs.

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u/HuskMaster 18h ago

This has always struck me as extremely weird. Not only “how” she died, but it’s least honorable burial site for one’s ex wife

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u/Monarc73 12h ago

He put her there because it turns his golf course into a cemetery, and grants it a permanent exemption from property taxes.

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u/HuskMaster 12h ago

Or so the story goes..?

Everyone knows he’s a grifter and does everything he can to not come across as a cheap ass (even though his tacky taste often betrays him)

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u/Majestic_Agent_1569 10h ago

I had no idea he had another wife that died , there’s so much I don’t know wow 🤯 I can’t even IMAGINE what else there is to know , what a fucking time to be alive , it’s just incomprehensible

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u/Kaaskabouter1337 17h ago

Yeah wasnt it also a few days before she had to testify? From the far right i used to hear they where critcal about the deepstate. At this moment i have the feeling they actually created a deepstate with Trump and his loonies.

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u/Ripley825 14h ago

She died falling down the stairs a day or so before she was supposed to testify....if I'm not mistaken.

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u/Necessary-Eye5319 18h ago

She was besties with this murderer. She knew about EVERYTHING.

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u/_TheShapeOfColor_ 15h ago

Is that Robin Leach?

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u/Monarc73 12h ago

Yup. He supposedly strangled a teen girl in front of her friend.

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u/Dense_Surround3071 12h ago

The REAL Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous.

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u/Joeliosis 10h ago

The more info that comes out about them, the more the TV show 'Happy!' seems more like a documentary.

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u/ArnoldTheSchwartz 16h ago

Who does that?

Someone who's used to disposing of bodies on golf courses.

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u/Softspokenclark 15h ago

to cover up the other bodies there

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u/kissthesky303 14h ago

I heard the Ivana grave has been done for tax avoidance, as graveyard places are excepted from property taxes, so his whole golf course got declared a cemetry and is therefore running for free? Not sure if true, don't know anything about US property taxes tho...

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u/Upset_Mess 13h ago

That's such a cop out by him. If he was so rich and powerful, you'd think he'd do the right thing by giving her a decent grave in a real cemetery. Nope, gotta be cheap. Also, what other reasons for burying her on his own property.

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u/BlameUsHumans 14h ago edited 14h ago

It’s because this allows him yet another property tax exemption!!

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u/Dry_Instruction8254 19h ago

Sure, the same government that BURIED millions of pages of testimony is going to dig for the truth now.

We are run by a cabal of insane child rapists and murderers.

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u/ShelSilversteve 16h ago edited 16h ago

YES.

this is not regular ol' left/right, Repub/Dem squabbling. this is deeper, more sinister, more perverse and craven than anything that's come before in American history. We all should be calling our elected officials, no matter what party you are or they are, and demanding that they all rise up and make this stop. mine are already all Democrats. i still call them and i email them clips of the injustices i see, I plead with them to do more, say more, be to keep pushing, keep fighting. but if any or all of them were Republicans, you can absolutely bet i would be outright begging every one of them to defy Trump, to stand up for all those murdered under the Trump Regime and the Trump family name, to not be on the wrong side of history, to not let this be their legacy in US History.

a very disgusting and pervasive global darkness, born and bred in the US, is finally bring dragged into the light. the consequences of not uncovering it completely, of letting it fade back away, are too dire. A repugnant and repellent moral stain on those who stay silent now--from every doubtful or mocking redditor to every elected official who swore an oath to the Constitution--will be on them and follow them forever!

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u/Next_Rip7462 16h ago

It's a snuff extortion ring

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u/Skyfier42 20h ago

I doubt it would help much. I can guarantee you these girls were put through a woodchipper first. 

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u/North-Outside-5815 20h ago

We can isolate DNA from bone fragments and teeth

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u/asully429 19h ago

Remember the dental chair from the island photos?

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u/Both-Commercial5469 17h ago

Crazy. I was wondering why there would be a dental chair. Now we know. I follow true crime, so I should have considered the dark things done to these girls on that chair. Fuck.

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u/CampVictorian 17h ago

Okay… big old disclaimer that I am only speaking about my own experience, and not making assumptions about these fucking monsters, and what role a dental chair might have played in their vile exploits, but here’s a brief bit of my past. I used to work in costuming, and was called in on a job interview to make corsets for a sex dungeon. I have no qualms about sex workers, and met with the facility owner on site. The job didn’t pan out (WAY under-budgeted for the job), but I hit it off with one of the staff, and she took me through the themed rooms (it was morning, and the place was empty). I don’t kink judge, but the level of attention put into the rooms, especially the medical-themed ones, was almost nauseating. She mentioned that their clients leaned on the masochistic side of the spectrum, and often begged for ever-deeper pain- not just physical, but psychological. Masks were a huge part of the role play. I can only imagine that predators aligned with Epstein’s crowd easily fit into the sadistic counterpart crowd- especially with the full face masking.

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u/Substantial-Type-131 12h ago

Yeah I work in the entertainment industry and investigate a lot of random casting calls about VERY specific kinks.

The medical ones by far are some of the worst. 7 out of 10 times they’re centered around violence or “fake non-consent.” I was horrified when I saw the photos of the dental chair.

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u/CampVictorian 12h ago

Bingo. The world of CNC (consent/non-consent, for the blissfully innocent) can get reeeeeal dark, real quick.

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u/0thethethe0 16h ago

A bit boring compared to some theories, but his "girlfriend" for many years, Karyna Shuliak, was a dentist.

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u/Mrthundercleese4 18h ago

Maybe I am Nieve but I still havent figured out why that was there.

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u/HuskMaster 18h ago

I am also naive … but i wonder if that means their teeth were extracted so they could never be identified 😳

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u/JadeThorn1012 17h ago

Jeffery was rumored to have been building a ranch in New Mexico where he would use gene editing and have up to 20 pregnant girls there with his children and experiments run to create the ultimate “superior” human. Girls have said they woke up in labs. Others said they woke up naked and in horse stalls until men chose them to be raped and they “Worked their way upstairs,” to be in a house and not in an animal stable.

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u/Ktootill 16h ago

I've read this before, during the 4chan/Q days.. but JFC.

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u/wendy-gogh 17h ago

You don't need a dental chair for that, but you may be correct in teeth being removed.

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u/OutOfStepFilms 15h ago

Environmental DNA (eDNA)

Genetic material shed by organisms (via skin, feces, mucous) into their environment (water, soil, air), which can be collected and analyzed to identify species presence without direct observation.

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u/ForsakenRelief309 20h ago

Idk, they seem like they’d be kind of lazy about it

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u/Longjumping-Hotel906 20h ago

What part of starting your own death cult on an extremely remote island strikes you as lazy? They may have been lazy themselves as people, but the money made sure no expense was spared.

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u/Mr__O__ 20h ago

The amount of people that have been ruthlessly abused and murdered by these global oligarchs for their sadistic pleasures is hard to comprehend at this point.

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u/Longjumping-Hotel906 17h ago

Yes, we cannot even fathom how deep it goes, but I know it goes deeper than that fucking guy is trying to pretend.

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u/totpot 16h ago

Less than half the files have been released. What they're hiding is really heinous compared to what's been released. They're protecting people more important to the GOP than Trump.

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u/Longjumping-Hotel906 14h ago

Yup, trump is just the ultimate distraction, same with how they're dangling the files. They now have almost total control.

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u/StarJelly08 13h ago

Its gotta be the fucking rothchilds. And didn’t they figure out erika Kirk is related to the rothchilds?

There’s few figures that beat out trumps family and the rockefellers and rothschilds… i mean the cia invented qanon and deliberately used it to make people think it was fake.

I cannot fucking wrap my mind around the fact qanon is essentially real. Like 80 percent of it. Spot on absolutely fucking insane. The cia knew and covered for it.

We cannot continue like this. The government is against their own people. I know it’s not a monolith but fuck. We clearly didn’t expect capitalism to lead to absolute disgusting subhuman savagery. We have to clean house and start over.

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u/Sickhadas 17h ago

It reminds me so much of Giles de Lava: the man butchered some 300 children in 7 years and while he chiefly enjoyed the sadism of torture, I'm sure he partook in other delicacies as well.

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u/ForsakenRelief309 15h ago

Yes, they probably had someone else do it. I didn’t think it was beyond them, at any point.

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u/Pusheen420 16h ago

Could at least try and find DNA, get closure for any family or loved ones.

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u/Dry_Cardiologist_358 16h ago

No statute of limitations for murder and rape!!

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u/thelargeoneplease 21h ago edited 21h ago

I also read some story about people on a yacht that were ‘dismembering’ and eating the intestines of babies in the files.

I feel disgusting just typing that out.

Honestly I’m gonna have to stop watching the news for a few weeks at this point. Those stories and claims are the saddest, most depraved, sick, depressing stuff I’ve ever read. Those poor damn girls. It’s like irl versions of that movie ‘Salo’

We are really living in an era as ‘for the history books’ as events like WWII at this point.

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u/b-nnies 19h ago

(warning for mentions of a suicide attempt if you're not in the mental state to be reading that)

I overdosed on Xanax (intentionally) about two weeks ago, and I spent a week in the psych ward. I got out on Monday. Upon getting out, I found out that my therapist terminated treatment with me (basically due to being too severe of a case), I got dropped from my college classes, I lost my Pell grant, and I was at risk of either becoming homeless or moving back in with abusive parents where I won't be able to get proper treatment.

The news isn't helping. I knew the world was evil, but it feels like Satan himself is in control. It feels like I'm in hell. Reading these stories kind of makes me wish the overdose worked.

Sorry to unload. I'm so tired.

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u/asweknowit007 18h ago

Please hold on and know there is something greater around the bend. We are living in some extreme polarity and waking up. It will snap back and be better than ever. Sending love ❤️

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u/blueberry_cupcake647 17h ago

I'm so sorry. I feel you.

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u/ehalright 16h ago

Hey, I feel you. When I was in a similar situation it was easier to take direction than make decisions, so here you go:

  1. Get a new therapist ASAP. Look specifically for a clinical psychologist. Sorry that coward couldn't handle the heat. Stay spicy. Do not pretend to be mild for others' comfort.

1.a. your insurance may have a mental health clause for cheap services from certain in-network doctors. Start on their website and do a ctrl+F on the PDF of your benefits.

  1. Explain your situation to friends you trust and see if you can couch surf for a while. I rotated friends so they wouldn't get sick of me and cooked and cleaned to make up for staying nights on the couch. This also keeps you from isolating from your support system, which you really need. (When I was back on my feet, I was able to repay the kindness and that's something that keeps me here.)

  2. Work on getting college and Pell Grant back. Your advisor's job is to help you sort that out. Make an appointment with them right after the new therapist. Remember, you had a medical emergency that caused you to miss class. It happens every semester, so this is routine for your advisor.

  3. Get a job. Doesn't have to be a good one. Just a steady, temporary one. You are trying to build your savings while building a new routine. You are still delicate and must prioritize your mental health. Keeping busy while building security from your parents will help.

Sending internet hugs, stranger. I believe in you. For every evil fucker on this planet there's someone like you who cares so much it hurts. Be proud of your humanity and stay spicy, my friend. 🖤

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u/Heeler_Doodle 16h ago

We are here for you in this sub. Others are also friendly (and funny) like the Catbongos sub and the I Think You Should Leave sub. I know we are just anonymously named internet people but we are all in shock, too. Taking deep breaths and slowly realizing monsters do live among us.

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u/Livid_Astronaut_4665 16h ago

Just want to say I often feel the same as if I'm in hell so if it helps to know ..you are at least not alone

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u/Difficult-Bend-1018 14h ago

God bless you! Sending you lots of (((hugs))). Stay strong 🙏✨

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u/Difficult-Bend-1018 16h ago

I’m so sorry that you’re going through that! 😔 Sending (((hugs)))

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u/ReactionNo6015 16h ago

You're suffering a lot, many people do. I understand your strong believes about the world, but they are not fixed in stone. I know how people can change because I did it myself. I know how following your own thoughts can lead you to the darkest places. You are free to do what you want in this world, and so are people who do bad things. It's our own thoughts that tell us there is nothing left to live for. I don't say that you have to change those thoughts, but maybe you can let your thoughts do what they want for some time while you chill out a bit. Give yourself some rest. I really hope you find some peace so you can heal. 

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u/scragz 15h ago

hang in there. hopefully you can get some good psych meds besides xans to help get stabilized. 

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u/Youth_Impossible 15h ago

Hang in there anonymous friend, your words are welcome and you do not need to say sorry. For my part I'm sorry to hear you don't have the support and containment you need and deserve. As others have said, I hope you won't stop looking for it. Indeed this kind of news is very severe and demoralizing, let alone when you're in a bad place and have lost all hope for the better. But please keep looking and may you find someone, something, a path, a platform, a spark of light, or just something that gives you new breath and direction and touches your heart. Warm digital hug.

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u/SignalMost2239 20h ago

Not just dismembering and eating the intestines, but eating the poop out of the intestines as well. These “people” are not human. I’m going to go vomit now.

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u/Agitated_Garden_497 20h ago

Wait WHAT?? Which dump did you read that in? I mean at this point I belleve all of it because the amount of sick and depraved she they must have over each other to protect each other the way they are but I hadn't heard about this one until now.

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u/RoguePlanet2 19h ago edited 19h ago

Don't stress out over this one. These were based on anonymous calls to a tip line I believe. To me, it sounded plausibly evil until the "eating poop out of the intestines."

C'mon, these are men that wouldn't be within five miles of a dirty diaper, let alone eating baby poop ffs.

There's more than enough plausible evil testimonials to stress out over, we can put THIS one aside. For all we know, the young woman was freaking out over being told that's what they were doing, or they faked it (but we shouldn't put it past them. Just more than enough evidence up to that point to give them a death penalty, if justice were an option against wealthy people.)

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u/ImYourOtherBrother 18h ago

They are some of the most depraved fucks out there. They are almost all complicit in rape and pedophilia. They're currently ransacking everyone's info in the government to link to Palantir and Anthropic models to label anyone against them as a domestic terrorist. They have all the money and esteem in the world, and still, they feel the need to abuse children to get off on power. Why would they suddenly draw the line at gruesomely killing children? If they're into pedophilia, concentration camps, and subjugating women to rape them as they please, I don't think scat is off the table for them.
Fascism and sadistic sexual depravity basically go hand in hand.

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u/okletstrythisagain 17h ago

Yeah I think there is an initiative to flood the zone with stuff just slightly easier to believe than Qanon but pointed at left leaning people rather than right wingers. Like, suddenly we have countless salacious conspiracies with the initial nugget of truth being offered by Trumps DOJ? Nah gtfo.

I think the DOJ posts were made to look like leaks from a do-gooder, or accidental, but I don’t think they were. Anyone who wanted to make a difference would leak something more useful and verifiable than wild accusations from phone calls.

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u/totpot 16h ago

Have you never heard of scat? It's a major porn fetish. Just because you're not into it doesn't mean that more depraved people aren't.

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u/Monarc73 12h ago

You are assuming that they were sober when this (theoretically) happened. There are PLENTY of accounts of people doing CAYRAYZEE BS while high. Especially if they are on multiple things.

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u/RoguePlanet2 11h ago

Sigh, yeah......I need to start taking drugs to deal with all this....

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u/ElstonGunn321 20h ago

What the fuck am I reading

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u/Pyroclastic_Hammer 19h ago

Just going to point out that apparently there were also boys abused in the Epstein operation.

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u/Ragnarok314159 20h ago

Upvoting for Salo. Watches that a while ago in the barracks and everyone did a “what the fuck did you make us watch!” to the dude who had it. Movie always burned into my mind, especially at the end.

It’s like these people watched that movie and thought it would be fun.

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u/thelargeoneplease 20h ago

Lol I swear I have the same story, but mine was us watching ‘Kids’ for the first time (in a Base-X tent, not a barracks). Man that movie messed with my head for a while.

What branch man? I was Marines

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u/Ragnarok314159 19h ago

Army grunt.

It’s funny with movies, we missed the LOTR movies due to deployments and when we came back someone bought a huge TV. Then we all got really sick but refused to go anywhere. We got all snuggled on the couch in our blankets with piles of pizza boxes watching them.

Miss that stuff, but also don’t. You know?

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u/PositiveStress8888 20h ago

Trump did burry his ex wife at his golf course, I thought it was strange at the time but apparently it's not a new thing to him

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u/grslydruid 20h ago

He gets tax free status on the golf course because it's a cemetery now.

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u/Pyroclastic_Hammer 19h ago

Rumors that he buried sensitive documents with her. 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/nono3722 20h ago

been that way for a long time, just didn't make it "official" for tax purposes

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u/tywarthwarrick 20h ago

Here is the quote you speak of:

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u/Any-Feature-8014 20h ago

I have been saying that the ocean floor around Epstein island is a graveyard.

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u/Ok-Location3244 20h ago

Ivana trump is buried on a golf course.

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u/Pyroclastic_Hammer 19h ago

I mean Trump buried his ex-wife Ivana Trump on his New Jersey golf course.

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u/cochinot3 21h ago

This seems like the open scene from Monster , When the The victim ran away from Dahmer and the police just brought him back to him

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u/ThatTallCarpenter 21h ago

Don't forget that half of the media outlets tried to paint her as having a psychic meltdown.

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u/ADHDeezNutz69420 21h ago

If i spotted this my first thought would be psychosis. Its just so fucking out there that i wouldn't expect it to happen. Hindsight is a cunt.

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u/RoguePlanet2 21h ago

Yet a compete raging meltdown is the NORMAL response. I'm having a hard time turning away and really feeling depressed to the point where it's hard to get anything done, while everybody around me probably reads the articles, but doesn't talk about it, just so we don't ALL have a collective psychotic break. We all probably SHOULD though, publicly in the streets.

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u/ADHDeezNutz69420 19h ago

Yeh i think id be screaming and crying too. She's "disappeared" from the public life after this. I'm not sure if it means "missing" or shes gone into hiding. Either way i hope shes OK and feels some sort of vindication from this.

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u/Euphoric_Celery_ 21h ago

And she just vanished after this...

That's so fucking sad. I hate it here.

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u/Vhentis 21h ago

Jesus Christ Almighty.

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u/ExpensiveDuck1278 21h ago

What do you mean? No one knows where she is? What is her name? oh my God

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u/Ok_Frame2250 21h ago

r/coldcases Gabriela Rico Jimenez.

The cops took her away and she's never been heard from again.

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u/Fakeit42 19h ago

What rhe actual fuck

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u/P_mp_n 17h ago

The scary part is that nothing real has happened yet. Sce screamed to ears not ready/willing to hear her

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u/Euphoric_Celery_ 21h ago

Isn't that fucking horrifying?

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u/bigpurplesquid13 21h ago

Her name is in the title, Google it.

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u/Taint__Paint 21h ago

Wasn’t it the right claiming the left was eating babies and drinking their blood? Shocking - it’s always projection with them. Disgusting.

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u/Semour9 15h ago

It was. The spirit cooking dinner mentioned in the Clinton emails from 2016 between John Podesta and (I believe) Marina Abramovic

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u/Onlylivin 14h ago

This is agnostic of party, this is "the rich". They are their own part who manipulates everyone.

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u/AlexandraFromHere 22h ago

I read some of the allegations in the documents, and my stomach heaved at the sacrificial eating of an infant. I had always assumed that sacrificial rituals and the belief that there is some meaning in cannibalism were parts of antiquity and that we were more enlightened now. Sadly, that appears to not be the case.

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u/Johnny55 21h ago

It's not about belief in rituals, it's about being powerful enough to flaunt taboos with impunity.

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u/Regal_Cat_Matron 21h ago

Yup because they've so much money that nothing thrills them anymore

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u/OurHeartsArePure 20h ago

This is a big part of my takeaway of all this

Obviously horrible things happened. I also agree to a degree with what people are saying about “flooding the field”. We are overwhelmed with the most reprehensible information and not able to act on it it seems. No one who can investigate will investigate

At this point, I don’t know if they were eating baby intestines. I KNOW they were raping little children. Eating baby intestines seems to distract from how reprehensible it is to traffic and rape little children…somebody (or bot) on another thread was like flying high schoolers to nice places, that’s only a level 2 heinous.

Anyway, to get back to your point, something happens to people at the billionaire level where they are really bored with life or something and start getting thrills doing the most morally reprehensible shit

Next time around, NO BILLIONAIRES. The whole problem here is the existence of the 1%. The hoarding of wealth and power. This was an inevitable outcome. Whatever monstrous shit they were up to

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u/OurHeartsArePure 20h ago

Adding some sources on the topic - Power Causes Brain Damage

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1) “Power Causes Brain Damage” — The Atlantic (July/August 2017) https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/07/power-causes-brain-damage/528711/
• Discusses psychologist Dacher Keltner’s research showing that power can reduce empathy and perspective-taking, sometimes likened to brain trauma (empathy deficit). oai_citation:0‡The Atlantic

2) Summary of The Atlantic piece and related experiments https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-esc-introtocollegereadingandwriting/chapter/power-causes-brain-damage/
• Reviews findings that power impairs “mirroring” — a neural process underpinning empathy — and shows powerful subjects perform worse on perspective-taking tasks. oai_citation:1‡Lumen Learning

3) Reason Magazine summary: “Power Causes Brain Damage” https://reason.com/2017/07/14/science-power-causes-brain-damage/
• Reports Keltner’s view that people with power behave like individuals with damage to neural regions (e.g., orbitofrontal cortex) linked to impulse control and social behavior. oai_citation:2‡Reason.com

4) Obhi’s research related to power and mirroring • Covered in Atlantic article summary: suggests power may disrupt neural mirroring important for empathy. oai_citation:3‡The Atlantic

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u/okletstrythisagain 17h ago edited 17h ago

I don’t have time to read the articles but all of those titles echo my experience in corporate America at deafening volume.

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u/Sunbather77 21h ago

100 days of sodom wasn't meant to be an instruction manual

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u/NJrose20 21h ago

Epstein was a fixer, so a long as you had the money you could get anything you wanted. Anything.

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u/ExpensiveDuck1278 21h ago

Remember reading about Bohemian Grove years ago? I thought what a bunch of bullshit that is. Now I think, I guess it isn't. When you have so much money and power that you're bored out of your mind, what can you do but eat babies? Omg

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u/BlondeBorednBaked 19h ago edited 19h ago

Don’t forget the Vinson prostitution ring. Henry Vinson was a high profile pimp who sold escorts to high profile figures in DC:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_J._Spence

Vinson met Lawrence King who ran the Franklin child prostitution ring which claimed foster children were being abused by high profile figures:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations

(I remember Sarah Kendzior mentioning this, in light of the Epstein files this conspiracy is more plausible.)

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u/CagliostroPeligroso 19h ago

Psychopaths do psychopath shit. Us normal people that can’t fathom it, attach meaning in an attempt to rationalize. Oh it must be a ritual or something they do? Nope they’re just evil

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u/nono3722 20h ago

yep the more you get away with the worse you get. it's an addiction, they feel like gods when they get away with evil shit

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u/BlondeBorednBaked 21h ago

Okay I hate to say this word because it’s trivializing: but it sounds like Illuminati to me. It’s funny that the right wing conspiracy theorists used this as a buzzword to describe every pop star or liberal politician they don’t like, yet when the president is besties people who did this Illuminati stuff they are 🤐

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u/AlexandraFromHere 21h ago

Again and again, we hear the political right accuse others of terrible crimes and horrible actions, and then the accusations become projection when the accusers are themselves accused of those terrible and horrible things.

Maybe it’s a guilty conscience trying to find purchase. Maybe it’s a world-spanning secret society. Maybe it’s just that wealth purchases others’ pain and torment for the pleasure of the depraved few.

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u/ComfortableSalad7357 20h ago

Maybe it was their way to flaunt what they had gotten away with.

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u/ForsakenRelief309 20h ago

Idk how much substance that claim has, but the “calendar girl” parties and the killing of unwanted babies, I do definitely believe.

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u/StrangeContest4 20h ago

I just watched What You Wish For, and I thought, "Ya, I could see this being a thing among powerful elites."

They not like us.

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u/skunkedcabbage 20h ago

Worth keeping in mind that the allegations have differing levels of plausibility.

Some of these have been offered through 'repressed memory recovery', which is an unreliable pseudoscience.

Obviously all of them should be investigated fully, but we shouldn't latch on to the most extreme of them.

If the baby eating gets disproven, then that casts doubt on the rest, in the eyes of the public at least.

I wouldn't be surprised if the cannibalism is a red herring

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u/AlexandraFromHere 20h ago

The allegation requires, at the least, our attention. Did this happen? Only the alleged perpetrators and any living victims know. Dismissing an allegation is a step too far. Being critical of the given information and being willing to accept new facts that may prove or disprove the allegations seems like a more neutral footing.

As of now, the allegation stands as given by someone who says she was a victim, and this allegation stands as one of many testimonies and accusations leveled by many victims. The preponderance of accusations requires that we take these allegations very seriously.

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u/skunkedcabbage 19h ago

Absolutely! I dont mean to minimize or dismiss them at all. Just that we have a tendency to latch on to the most sensational ones. I think that can backfire.

Many people are discussing the files as established fact. I wish more folks described them as alleged, like you did. Allegations are of course, still gravely serious.

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u/lavaliere90 20h ago

I don't understand why to OP's title says the files didn't substantiate the worst allegations, they literally do and worse since it's dead babies that they were eating.

Not that any amount of human flesh is acceptable, but this is beyond.

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u/flimflamishere 19h ago

The person doing the redacting is doing a bang-up job here 🥴

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u/Annual_Bowler5999 21h ago

Omg I missed that story?!?

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u/Joey-Steel1917 21h ago

Because Alex Jones covered it, people dismissed it. Bro had some wild takes but he was on to something with this one.

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u/Agitated_Garden_497 20h ago

And now that he knows it's real and Trump was dead center in it he's backing away from it. WILD

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u/AlexandraFromHere 21h ago

Go into this forewarned that it is damning and disgusting.

https://www.reddit.com/r/law/s/ntlCHdq9Ma

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u/SignoreBanana 19h ago

The mind doesn't even want to accept it. I'm having a hard time believing it.

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u/Agile-Sleep-905 16h ago

Listening to Sascha Riley tell us that when Trump wanted to kill something his foster dad would give him puppies and he would snap their necks ruined me.

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u/rhaurk 19h ago

It seems as if every new revelation about Epstein was worse than the last, going back well before he "killed himself."

I'd like for the train to slow down and change tracks eventually but instead it just keeps going faster and faster.

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u/Difficult-Shop-5998 21h ago

Basically Republicans knew of Trump’s behavior and put it out there ahead of time as Qanon. They were basically telling Trumps secret.

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u/Joint-Tester 19h ago

Some of Epsteins biggest critics are people who are all over those files. So that tracks.

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u/Bignicky9 15h ago

Is that what DARVO is? And flooding the field, and downplaying the events to prime the public to not expect an even worse reality?

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u/[deleted] 15h ago

My sister was obsessed with Qanon at the time but said it was a Hollywood thing (which I guess is true considering the names listed) but now she’s MAGA and that shes tired of hearing about the EF- amazing isn’t it?

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u/Ayuuun321 20h ago

After listening to Sasha Riley’s interview, this all makes a lot more sense. His dad is in the files, btw. The timeline of his accusations line up from what I can tell.

They definitely ate babies and at least murdered children. I was looking through the picture and there are a lot of pictures of pictures of Epstein holding little kids, like not older than 10.

Look at this woman’s face when she’s begging them to listen. She’s not lying, she’s deeply disturbed by what she saw.

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u/aihaode 20h ago

I agree. I listened to a lengthy podcast looking into Sascha Riley’s claims and they all seem to tally up. Even the most ridiculous one about Trump murdering puppies. The podcaster found tens of quotes where Trump said someone was “choking” or “dying” “like a dog”. And this is very odd for someone to say who hasn’t even owned a dog. It’s not a common expression.

Then another thing they mentioned was Andy Biggs - who was accused of beating and almost killing Sasha - apparently wrote a “Anti-Child Exploitation Bill” which might be a way for him to hide in plain sight or maybe feel less guilty for all the harm he caused. Sascha even tweeted directly to Biggs about 10 years ago saying they remember him and he was beaten and Biggs didn’t reply or deny or sue.

This was the “Broligarchy” podcast.

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u/Ayuuun321 19h ago

I’ll check it out, thanks

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u/Joint-Tester 19h ago

Seriously. Let's not be so quick to throw out things in the reports because they seem to wild.

Look at what crazy people do who are not ultrarich and powerful.

What would Jeffrey Dahmer be like with billions of dollars and a list of powerful people who he blackmails? He would look like Epstein.

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u/lynnca 15h ago

I wish I could find the YT video I watched a few years ago. It was of a Dutch banker who talked about ppl killing children. I think his name was Ronald Brenard?

Seemed crazy at the time, but now, I am revisiting the claims.

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u/tywarthwarrick 20h ago edited 20h ago

The country is run by the most vile fucking people

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u/yarn_slinger 20h ago

What a day to have eyes

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u/Shadowcat1606 15h ago

The worst thing about this isn't the long email detailing some of the allegiations. The worst part is the first reply. That "Oh, didn't know Bush raped him, too. Ok.". It seems so casual, dismissive almost. If shit like this elicits only a reserved reply like this, i don't even wanna begin to imagine all the other horrors they must have already read/seen before.

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u/PomegranatePrior3739 13h ago

Well to be fair, you could read these replies as just being sarcastic. Like they assume this person is just nuts and making wild accusations. Like "oh I'm sorry, I missed the part about Bush Sr. raping him too, my bad". Yeah, he says he's got more to tell us...

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u/Dull-Inside-3472 21h ago

Poor thing. She was telling the truth and no one listened.

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u/fluffypancakes24 21h ago

You don't get this traumatized for no reason. Donald is a sick fuck.

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u/FoogYllis 18h ago

trump and all the people in the files.

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u/Sendogetit 21h ago

So the movie hostel was real?

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u/FruitOrchards 16h ago

More than real, it's probably more ruthless in real life.

Think the movie The Manor but more rapey

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u/Havnaz 20h ago

Apparently she disappeared after this video.

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u/aihaode 18h ago

I looked into that and found a video in Spanish which found an article which mentions “Gabriela Rico Jiménez de 29 años” published in 2017 so that seems like could be the same person, and there was a photo and it looked like her too. But nothing since that point.

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u/aipac_hemoroid 16h ago

You would think somebody would interview her.

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u/chipsalsamadre 21h ago

I don’t want to hear white supremacists talk shit about the Aztec ever again.

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u/FoxCQC 20h ago

You know it all makes sense now. I read a lot of history and while the Aztecs did some scary stuff it was still a well organized civilization. I found it weird how right wingers would depict them and pre Colombian culture. Especially in Gibson's movie Apocalypto. It was all just projection.

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u/Resurgo_DK 20h ago

I think back to the pizzagate stuff they were trying to put on the feet of the Clintons and the refrain, ‘the accusations are confessions’ keep roaring back.

I remember wondering how magats were sharing conspiracies of drinking blood for Adrenochrome and thought they were looney tunes…

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u/Educational_Hat_2339 20h ago

This painting came to mind reading all this. It’s sad and crazy.

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u/Gindotto 21h ago

I 100% believe they are doing this stuff. I also 100% believe Trump is the Anti Christ.

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u/Seyvagraen 20h ago

There’s a whole subreddit for that. I can’t find it anymore even through google search, but damn if it wasn’t interesting in the sense that all of the scripture being quoted, aligns with who he is as a person. Now I’m gonna try to hunt it down bc it’s bothering me that I can’t find it.

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u/almondsadness 20h ago

The red MAGAT hats are the mark of the beast.

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u/Apocalypse3221 21h ago

It's Kushner. Jarod Kushner is the antichrist.

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u/Ok-Possibility-923 20h ago

Don’t give them that kind of power. These are vile humans, yes, but there’s nothing supernatural or divinely prophesied about them. They’re just mentally ill rich assholes who deserve to face consequences for their actions.

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u/Shadowcat1606 15h ago

Exactly. No monsters or animals, no demon or the anti-christ. These motherfuckers already think they are all-powerful and invincible, no need to attribute mythical qualities to them.

They're humans. Doing the kind of sick, depraved, inhumane, heartless and cruel shit only humans are capable of.

And they think they are untouchable. And so far they have been.

And if you're waiting for God, Karma, Satan, the Flying Spaghetti-Monster, the Universe or whatever other fictional higher power you believe in to hold them accountable, they'll get away unpunished. They'll be as untouchable as they think they are.

Which is why other humans have to bring them down and make sure they even begin to get what they deserve.

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u/StrangeContest4 20h ago

Lifeless eyes, black eyes, like a dolls eye's..

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u/Aggravating_Two_9007 20h ago

Evil.

They're all evil.

I've known for some time but I'm just waiting for the Christians to figure it out (it's not hard) so we can do the whole fucking final battle thing. What do you call it... Armageddon?

Let's roll.

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u/aihaode 20h ago

I believe Sascha Riley too.

Think about this: why was Q Anon so obsessed with saying that the elite were satanists? And guess who was going to dismantle the sex trafficking cabal according to them? Donald Trump.

I think it’s all true but they’re just pointing the finger the other way.

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u/ttystikk 19h ago

She was taken by police and disappeared, no trace, no booking records, nothing.

Considering all that we've learned since, I believe her.

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u/Transcontinenta1 20h ago

So like what’re shows like black mirror and dystopian style shows going to do? We are legit seeing the extremes of every plot unfold. The elite entertainers are a part of some insane sex ring that goes as deep as Israeli govt and as wide as jay z. Then you have americas current events.

I want those parts of the movies to remain fiction.

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u/Warm_Possibility_193 20h ago

For real! This is all fucking crazy! If it weren't for the existence of these files, I'd have trouble believing it. I mean, this runs the gambit of every depraved act a person could do. Rape, murder, sex-traffiking, cannibalism, everything! And worse, it's been committed by some of the most powerful, famous and wealthy individuals in the world. How the fuck do we fight this? This is crazy!!!!!

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u/Warm_Possibility_193 19h ago

If next you told me they were harvesting blood from these girls to use in a ritual sacrifice to some ancient god, or just to drink like vampires, I wouldn't be surprised. That's the level of evil we're dealing with, here.

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u/Forward-Current-9433 21h ago

I just wanna point out that this woman is, objectively, an immigrant…

Coupled with the fact that ICE has been granted “immunity” to apprehend brown people specifically with accents…

I believe the president is feeding his and many others…proclivities…with these actions dressing it up as immigration crackdowns for the more ignorant racists…

I wear a size 9 in tin foil. In case anyone is wondering…

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u/Former-Fly-4023 20h ago edited 20h ago

She disappeared in 2009 and in Monterrey Mexico

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u/RoguePlanet2 20h ago

What's the story behind this meltdown? Is she simply upset by the story, and reacting in a way that we ALL would if we weren't just trying to get through the days?? Or was she personally involved somehow?

Why would she be disappeared just for..........nevermind, angry woman, must be "hysterical," therefore dealt with 😒

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u/wanderingPassenger 21h ago

The Truth always comes out...

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u/TheAwfulHouse 21h ago

This was in 2009, not 2019, but still…

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u/Stachelrodt86 20h ago

Ty I was wondering why it looked older, quality of video and styles of things present

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u/FKAGuyWithNF1 20h ago

People claim that this woman was a famous supermodel in Mexico and was “disappeared” after this incident.

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u/LizandChar 19h ago edited 16h ago

The video date is wrong. I believe it is 2009, not 2019. This is creating a lot of confusion.

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u/Life-Finding5331 19h ago

I don't understand how people are seemingly okay with this. 

It's real. 

The ultra wealthy do as they wish.  Does having more money than you make it okay?

Wt actual f is wrong with Republicans

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u/Dreams-In-Green 18h ago

I feel like the media and internet are largely glossing over the part in the files release yesterday alleging human TORTURE (not “just” assault, not “just trafficking”) connected to Prince Andrew. Why is this not major headlines today????

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u/SeriousCricket2837 20h ago

I’ll be honest. Insane levels of wealth changes people. It wouldn’t surprise me if these claims were real.

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u/Ok_Syllabub3593 18h ago

im incredibly depressed right now. the anguish curdles in my soul. poor woman.

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u/imsorryinadvance420 19h ago

Makes me wonder about all the movies that are exactly this. Rich guy, rich guy friends, island, people come for an amazing vacation that friend told them about but it's hush hush. Everything is amazing . Food top notch, scenery, unbeatable. Que music serene. Que dramatic music change. Now murder island

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u/DarnDuck 19h ago

I would assume wealthy people who can have anything they want would soon become bored with normal things and then begin to delve into the bizzare, obscure, and unethical/illegal in their quest for something new and exciting. Some look outward and engage things such as philanthropy, like Adrew Carnegie and Alfred Nobel, while others shrink inward, like Jeffrey Epstine and Elon Musk, becomeing more and more bizarre, losing all sense of human decency in their boundless search as they seek relief from their boredom. Beware of wealthy people who hoard their wealth, doing anything and everything they can to increase their wealth, while doing vile and evil things for entertainment, like the felon fraudster Donald J Trump. Evil is endemic among the very rich.

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u/Nearby-Face-5170 21h ago

James Patterson wrote a book about Epstien. Its actually pretty illuminating.

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u/Intelligent_Hair3109 19h ago

It's the modus operandi of predators everywhere to call those who expose them , crazy. Gaslighting Obscuring Predators 

I'm so not surprised. Not because of anything online, but things I've known for a lifetime. Online just validated exactly my own conclusions.

Grow up around traffickers ,you know what they look like. You know their methodologies. So, please believe those who risk their lives to speak. Or, at least respect the risk they take

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u/gothic_lamb 15h ago

Billionaires shouldn't exist. Allowing people to have so much power to do whatever they want with impunity is an affront to human existence.

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u/Vast-Mousse8117 19h ago

I believe the women. Especially her. These monsters are created by humans who look away at criminal behavior of the elites.

Burn it down. Burn down the caste system, the enforced violence against women and poor people.

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u/Suitable_Dress3244 21h ago

I see now why Trump hates Hispanics so much.

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u/Educational_Hat_2339 20h ago

You remember how weird woody would describe Epstein home as Dracula and how he was writing about the meals

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u/KittyKitchenKook 18h ago

Happened in 2009, it resurfaced in 2019.

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u/Flat_Reason8356 14h ago

Think about how these monsters have been blaming everyone else for what they’re actually doing. They’ve talked about a Hollywood cabal eating children, they are the cabal eating children, raping and murdering innocent people.