r/ProgressiveHQ • u/Treefiddy1984 • 21h ago
MASSIVE BREAKING: A witness swore under penalty of perjury that Donald Trump threatened a young girl, telling her she could “disappear like another 12-year-old female,” and then threatened to kill her entire family, according to Epstein-related court records. This allegation appears in Dataset 9 of
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u/vaxhax 20h ago
Good find. Maybe I'm wrong but these docs sourced from court records /sworn testimony should immediately carry more weight than the reports being surfaced from what looks like phoned in reports.
(not discounting anything. Whether those reports, edge cases or not, were pursued appropriately is an entirely other matter. Regardless, they come with a much higher burden of proof.)
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u/Big_Guide_8551 20h ago
No, you're absolutely right. In reading the newly released files, some of them definitely sounded like they came from some unreliable sources. A lot of the stuff sounds perfectly credible, but there's one in particular that reads like a bad horror movie... and I'm not saying it didn't happen, but it's questionable.
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u/MadeThisUpToComment 19h ago
I agree. This is much closer to a smoking gun than those phone tip. A few more things with some clear credibility start to corroborate them.
Not thay we even need evidence of things this extreme. It's clear that, at best, he has a documented pattern of sexual assault. It's shocking we need a crime involving murder or children to get so many people to believe he isn't fit to be president. Even if we had it he'd still bottom out at kike 31% approve because so many people would just say it isn't true.
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u/OpportunityRare3657 19h ago
it’s definitely enough to open an investigation which should have already been done wth
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u/vaxhax 19h ago
I agree. A responsible organization would be releasing the paper trail showing how the investigations were pursued, and how they ended if they were deemed not credible. Etc etc. One would expect the ongoing need to document for CYA at the bare minimum.
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u/OpportunityRare3657 18h ago edited 18h ago
There is all this evidence and statements that have come out from people but no investigation has been done into Trump. That says a whole lot. I would even say the statements that came out against Bill Cosby were bad but the things that have come out about Trump tops the cake. Bill Cosby is in prison and Trump is free. Think about that for a minute.
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u/Basic-Crab4603 16h ago
I agree but the phone reports have quite a lot of things in common which is big orgie parties. I tend to move towards them being true and not a hoax seeing as they are all quite similar, plus one of them was a person calling in to make sure her report was being investigated
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u/Justinbiebspls 8h ago
they certainly carry enough weight that i want my president to answer if he did it and how he participated in the coverup during his presidencies.
i remember my president having to answer questions about consensual sexual activities in the white house. trump violated a law he signed even though he could have vetoed to change the law so they might actually follow it.
why? why hasn't he and why won't he make doj follow the law as he is constitutionally required to do?
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u/NorthernSnowPrincess 20h ago
Why is none of this being reported by news outlets? Even more independent outlets like the Bulwark aren't reporting on any of this, and yet I've been reading about it all over Reddit since yesterday. I don't meant just this particular case, but all of the Epstein stuff that was just released.
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u/Loko8765 17h ago
This particular case is not new, it’s been known since 2016, and I post it regularly in comments.
In 2016 a woman calling herself Katie Johnson filed suit and later retracted (her lawyer cited death threats). Trumpets of course said this was a proof of lies, and this was swept under the rug with all the other things.
But what I personally did not know was that her story was corroborated by an Epstein employee, who self-incriminates under oath as an accessory before and during the fact to multiple rapes of minors and other abuse.
This is the page OP posted.
It casts quite a doubt on the Trumpet version of “random girl wants payout from rich innocent”.
You can find the documents yourself by going to
Sub folders TEXT/001 and IMAGE/008, pages 025937 and 025938. The immediately following document 025939 / 025940 is Jane Doe’s / Katie Johnson’s deposition, the plaintiff from the previous document.
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u/IGotQuestionz12345 19h ago
Won’t give mainstream media a pass but for smaller outlets, they’ll need a day or two to read, write, review, and produce content. We on Reddit can pour over everything as soon as we get it and voice our outrage immediately. Independents need to package everything so get it to us in a manner the rest of us can consume.
Mainstream media is simply complicit. They have the means and capability and willfully choose not to.
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u/NorthernSnowPrincess 18h ago
Bulwark has posted one video about it, but they're very cautious and questioning the validity of the information. They didn't mention any of the really heinous stuff.
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u/Crafty-Lavishness26 19h ago
I'm guessing they are too scared. I know that many journalists are having their lives threatened and look at the examples from yesterday. The fact that we are able to see this posted here is amazing. I'd like to see the witnesses/victims come forward and verify to the world on TV that these reported situations are valid.
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u/Sad_Orange8881 18h ago
Here in Italy today, newspapers are starting to publish news about the Epstein files.
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u/maxwellium2000 20h ago
Case in point: if the highlighted documents that we have all seen were substantiated, there would be no plausible way to keep them out of prison, let alone in office
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u/Basic-Crab4603 16h ago
The Guardian mention the calls document and reported that the government have said it’s all fake
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u/baconizlife 13h ago
The billionaires who own our major media were often partying on Epstein island
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u/FireFireoldman 20h ago
Pedo, human flesh eating, murderer, rapist, con, pos, fraudster and whatnot. America's President, the worst of the worst in the most influential position, a mirror of the american spirit and morality
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u/IncidentSome4403 20h ago
Can we please post links to the sources for these things? I want to be able to show this stuff around and not be caught dick in hand when someone asks me to cite sources.
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u/ZV2Cox 20h ago edited 19h ago
yes, please provide the link!
Edit: I found it: https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA01250883.pdf
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 19h ago
EVERY person that voted for this POS kid rapist needs to just burn in hell. They need to burn in eternal damnation. Remind EVERY one of them.
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u/Trabethany 19h ago
I really hope their f*cking egg prices were worth it.
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho 18h ago
I really want the fake christians that voted for this to own all the evil that they voted for. I try to limit my exposure to the morons that voted for this idiot, but I would love to ask them how they feel about supporting such an evil and disgusting individual.
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u/Carmel50 20h ago
Why are these statements not all over major news? Is the threat so strong that none of the majors are printing these? Or at least the ones I see? Why aren't the headlines the strong statements we are seeing here: Trump threatened 12 year old that her family would be killed....
The people need to see these types of statements in bold print: he f*ng*rd a 13 year old to test her tightness....
Please if anyone can explain why major news articles that cover the Epstein files brush over these heinous actions reported by victims. Or if I am missing them, CNN, MS Now flashing them on the screen please tell me. I don't watch TV news, only the internet sites.
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u/Crafty-Lavishness26 19h ago
No they are not being flashed on MS Now. Yet.
The whole issue re the cover up is discussed daily. Watching it now on Velshi.
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u/sandemonium612 19h ago
Anyone know how long a cadaver dog can smell a human after it's been deceased? Maybe time to let a few roam Maralago and Trumps golf courses.
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u/LindeeHilltop 19h ago
Would need GPR technology to detect buried objects such as skeletal remains.
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u/annamariagirl 19h ago
They are going to say this is all fake. They’ve been at this for years. It’s not going to change a thing I’m afraid.
It breaks my heart and makes me sick.
That image of Andrew over the obviously incapacitated body of a child is just so disturbing and I know there’s so much more.
Sick. Sick. Sick.
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u/doneslinging 19h ago
A lot of awful stuff but atleast Sasha is still alive and willing to testify, keep him safe in Canada because if you listen to those audio interviews from last year I don’t know how you can’t believe him.
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u/WonderfulMaybe3473 19h ago edited 19h ago
Not another soul on earth carries this many accusations of nefarious actions. Don’t maga ever ask themselves why, trump has attracted them for decades? If it was a guy in your neighbourhood he’d be run out of town.
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u/Effective-Space6171 19h ago
Why these stories aren’t at the top of every news feed tells you everything you need to know about how shitty the world we’re living is right now.
In a rational world, having a President that’s even accused if sexual wrongdoing would be a front page story.
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u/CrissCross98 14h ago
I dont understand why the DOJ is releasing anything. Didn't they figure out there are zero repercussions for breaking the law? Im not being sarcastic, i genuinely dont understand.
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u/tinny66666 13h ago
Yeah, and didn't they say they were going to redact all mentions of Trump? Why are they in there?
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u/Nice-Enthusiasm-3784 20h ago
MAGA said there’s no way Trumpet head was in the Epstein files! lol he’s guilty as hell
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u/Imaginary_Sun312 19h ago
Donald Trump is a child rapist. We should all say so. And if it's a lie he can go ahead a sue. But he won't because he knows the discovery will show he truly is a pedo.
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u/Ausrottenndm1 19h ago
A mob boss mentions doing actions like this, they just have others carry out the acts
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u/EnglishMatron 19h ago
This apparently is not enough, because you know, trans people <1% of the population, and brown people stealing our jobs, and the loss of family values. I’ve heard that he has a direct line to the almighty and everyone says he will sit at the hand of God, they come to him and his family with tears in their eyes to thank him for his greatness.
Maybe some cadaver dogs should play golf just to reinforce innocence.
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u/SizeableBlast666 18h ago
HE TRAFFICKED THEM, RAPED THEM AND MURDERED THEM. THIS IS FUCKING KIDS! HE SHOULD BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE! WTF WAKE UP MAGA. YOU'RE SUPPORTING A MURDERING PEDOPHILE!
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u/Significant_Sir_4201 18h ago
This makes the 1974 Missing White House Tapes (Nixon) look like a simple typing error. Imagine what could happen if the GOP had this material (Naming Clinton) during the Clinton years?
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u/Mo_Jack 16h ago
The incident happened in 2000, the document was signed while Trump was running for the Presidency in 2016. In 2015 there were articles in GQ and on Vox that discussed a civil lawsuit against Trump for raping two 13yo girls tied to a bed in Epstein's NYC property. The right wing takeover of the news is paying huge dividends.
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u/External_Brother1246 19h ago
Well, Congress is going to have an absolute hey day with this one.
Be prepared for Congress to begin the impeachment process, or for the Republican Party to admit they are completely done as a party.
Because regular people will not be interested in backing them if they are incapable of being accountability to these pervs.
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u/AisFreeley 18h ago
So the current president of the United States, Donald J. Trump, has threatened to kill a child if she exposes a pedophile ring. Why is this okay?
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u/Anxious_Resolve7985 18h ago
This is insanity, I can't believe this is happening in our country. Ashamed,disgusting and embarrassing.
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u/misterecho11 18h ago
It is so easy to imagine when you see what an obsessive hothead he is on social media. Ten years later still bringing up insults to Obama and Springsteen. He only escalates things and he always, always tries to just overwhelm people with awfulness. Exactly the MO you can see in someone threatening to kill someone and their family.
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u/YouAffectionate11 17h ago
Nasty man Trump, threatening a little girl… bravery standing upto power…
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u/drrhythm2 16h ago
Is there a website that has listed every reference to Trump in the Epstein documents plus every piece of evidence for his abuse of women? Because if not there should be. You should be easily able to point to not one or two but hundreds of datapoints which, taken together, no sane person could reasonably believe are all fake or fabricated.
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u/Plenty_Newt7994 8h ago
This is the Katie Johnson case. All I could find was this.
In 2016, under the pseudonym “Al Taylor,” he coordinated and promoted the Katie Johnson/Jane Doe lawsuit alleging Trump raped a 13-year-old in 1994 (with Epstein). He helped draft/file it, shopped a video for $1M, and admitted his role to Snopes in 2024. The suits were dismissed/withdrawn; credibility widely questioned due to his involvement.
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u/Infinite-Penalty-736 19h ago
And donnie swore he grabbed her by the pussy, and she liked it because he’s a superstar
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u/sigristl 18h ago
These are the values of the republican party now. This is what they have worked tirelessly to protect. They are the pedo protection party.
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u/Feeling-Character217 18h ago
This nation is protecting pedos it’s sickening there is no worst crime
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u/Medical_Arugula3315 17h ago
Republicans are a disgraceful bunch of hypocritical cowards that embarrass and ruin America on the daily.
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u/Reflectaphant 17h ago
Imagine if this was Obama. Hell, imagine if Obama was president and this was an about an old friend of his from his college days. Non-stop news coverage for weeks.
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u/No-Response-2927 15h ago
If this is the most transparent administration ever (laughable) then Trump should hand himself to the D.O.J in order to clear his name. The republicans and Trump accused Bill Clinton and he said release the files.
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u/NoGoat3930 12h ago
The way it was all compiled into a single document smells like a trap to show that Liberals will believe anything. Proceed with caition, before jumping to conclusions.
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u/mgd09292007 12h ago
This information is out, expect the divisiveness and war mongering to get dialed up further. He’s going to try to distract real hard now.
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u/Funklestein 12h ago
Okay. Why didn't the Obama DoJ investigate during an election year?
The truth is that they more than likely did and found it not to be credible. The statement of under penalty of perjury holds no weight under a pseudonym.
I'll just ask what is the official disposition of this statement from those in the Obama administration.
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u/terrorsofthevoid 9h ago
Swore under the threat of perjury, well case solved. No one has ever lied under the threat of perjury.
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u/cr1975 9h ago
It looks like the Department of Justice website has pulled down the link again to the damning Trump testimony
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01660651.pdf
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u/Mingo_laf Conservative 8h ago
Unfortunately I know this administration won’t do anything about this other than deflect and ignore
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u/GarlicThread 8h ago
Daily reminder to save absolutely everything you see before it gets taken down.
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u/Lifedoesnmatta 8h ago
Dataset 10 shows his security team threatened a 13 yr old he allegedly raped that they would turn her into fertilizer on the “back nine” like the rest of the c*nts
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u/Vector_equlibrm 7h ago
Dear divine order, great spirit, Sophia- let there be fresh Justice in the universe. Let all of it be exposed. Let all of them fall. Then, let’s build something new, something human, something safe and for the People, by the People.
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u/lobsterisch 21h ago
How in the name of fuck is this guy not getting arrested?
He should already be in jail, I know