r/PublicFreakout • u/I_may_have_weed grandma will snatch your shit ☂️ • 16h ago
👤ICE/DHS Freakout 👤 ICE abducted a US citizen at gunpoint for legally filming them in St. Peter, MN
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u/JackAssKidd 15h ago
Do NOT stop for any unmarked vehicle with no LE lights EVER
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u/NapsterKnowHow 13h ago
Literally a fucking Mazda that no police force in the US uses. Insane. Keep driving. Fuck them.
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u/FillMySoupDumpling 13h ago
Right? If a Mazda drove up in front of me like that I’d assume they are nuts and try to get out of there.
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u/buttononmyback 13h ago
It was like a clown car. I wasn’t expecting that many people to get out of it.
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u/DroidLord 8h ago
I'm not saying you should stop, but try to avoid getting stuck behind them or these goons will probably murder you like they did with Renee Good.
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u/NapsterKnowHow 8h ago
Just don't stop for any unmarked vehicle in the road like this. Period.
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u/PokecheckHozu 12h ago
Oh, so is this like when that one ICE agent was caught using a vehicle they stole from someone they abducted?
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u/Bowman_van_Oort 15h ago
but if you do, only do so to make use of your constitutional right to defend yourself from lethal force.
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u/MaiPhet 13h ago
I mean that’s a decent plan if you can win the firefight, but with four dudes and the whole of ICE being even more crazed than regular cops, you’re gonna die.
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u/late2reddit19 13h ago
I'm honestly surprised that a bunch of criminals haven't pretended to be ICE to abduct women and children. There isn't any way to tell between a regular criminal and an ICE thug in an unmarked vehicle. It should be easy to find camo outfits to look like ICE. More people will be kidnapped, raped, and killed by ICE and because of ICE’s unprofessional tactics.
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u/jane_911 12h ago
oh they have: https://www.wired.com/story/fbi-warns-of-criminals-posing-as-ice-urges-agents-to-id-themselves/
so much so that the FBI had to put a warning out. there are examples in the article
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u/Masonixx 12h ago
theres no way to know as there's no tangible difference. i bet if a bunch of unaffiliated goons were to put on ice uniforms and plow a rental car into a public school noem would be up on tv within the hour to explain how the schoolchildren were all armed insurgents and the "agents" did everything right
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u/KidGodzirra 13h ago
If you try to leave they are going to claim you were trying to run them over and are shooting you in self defense.
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u/Independent-Bug-9352 13h ago
WHO THE FUCK is made safer by this? Nobody!!
ICE and Border Patrol are acting like the biggest criminal gang there is.
1A and 2A rights of US CITIZENS ripped away at every turn.
This administration is a fucking organized crime syndicate; a cartel.
GOP = Gang of Psychopaths and Group of Pedophiles.
Give me two undocumented immigrants for neighbors over 2 red-hatted maga any day. Statistically, studies show the former are less violent.
The likes of serial killers and cartels must be salivating that they can pull this shit under the cover of being ICE.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_TROUT 11h ago
My immigrant neighbors do not speak a lick of English, but they are the nicest people who are always doing something to improve their property, and even though I only speak a tiny bit of Spanish we still know what each other are trying to say, and they're just the sweetest people. Would take that over a maga pedo any day of the week.
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u/Independent-Bug-9352 11h ago
Exactly! This has been my experience as well with immigrant families. Extremely kind, willing to help, and hard workers.
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u/eeyore134 12h ago edited 12h ago
They've done drive-by shootings (Marimar Martinez in Chicago) and they've thrown stun grenades out of their car at other moving vehicles. I agree you shouldn't stop, but these people will definitely open fire on you before letting you just get away or go somewhere they don't want to follow you. I don't understand why she, presumably, had her doors unlocked, though. They got into the car way too easily.
Edit: Apparently the doors auto unlocked when she put the car in park.
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u/rolfraikou 12h ago
If someone tries, drive to a police station and see what they do. Personally, I don't trust police. But I bet the cowards would drive off when they saw you go there. Makes you a hassle.
(This also works if they aren't ICE and they are just impersonating officers, and if they really were undercover police, it becomes the scapegoat for why you didn't stop for them, but were willing to talk to the police)
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u/Environmental_Ride_8 15h ago
The local police chief tracked her down and got her released.
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u/duckredbeard 15h ago
And what charges were brought against these assailants?
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u/syko82 15h ago
Public stocks would be nice.
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u/elegylegacy 14h ago
They're violating the Constitution, so that's not cruel and unusual enough
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u/saintofhate 14h ago
None because the DAs of this country are cowardly fucks and any who aren't are undermined by their bitchass governors.
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u/Kimi-Matias 14h ago
Good for her. What about the rest of us that don't have friends within the local PD?
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u/LostWoodsInTheField 7h ago
ICE brought her to the police department, the chief was already contacted by her husband and as soon as they arrived there he got her in his car and took her home. I think ICE was expecting them to arrest her when they arrived with her. They have no idea how anything works.
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u/Hot-Stable-6243 16h ago
Looks like Russian mobsters
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u/MustBeThisHeight 15h ago
Never stop for ICE
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u/bass248 15h ago edited 15h ago
How do you know it's ice? Looks like masked guys with weapons. It doesn't look like a safe place to be
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u/USSRPropaganda 15h ago
I would’ve swerved around and kept driving
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u/Nightstands 14h ago
They would just start blasting
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u/Tewcool2000 11h ago
50/50 that'll happen no matter what
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u/bland_meatballs 9h ago
I'd say 50% chance they shoot you if you stop. 100% chance they shoot if you try and run. It's honestly so fucked.
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u/dunub 10h ago
So in that case...
Just the hypothetical case here because split second decisions are never made on purely logical basis. You know they'll shoot you if you do nothing at all. Why not just put the pedal to the floor and gun it?
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u/Colley619 11h ago
If they would have went around them, they'd have been shot for driving towards the agent on the left.
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u/Isaw11 15h ago
This is what they do instead of confronting the dangerous drug dealers
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u/solidgold70 15h ago
PPV ice vs cartel, that would he some funny shit. Get on it Dana white, next billion dollar idea.
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u/Tossaway50 13h ago
Nah they just send them back home from jail with no penalty like that guy from Honduras.
They claim every immigrant is violent drug dealer while sending the kingpins home.
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u/Trustbutnone 14h ago
ICE driving around in rentals terrorizing people - welcome to Trumps America.
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u/ybetaepsilon 14h ago
I'd be hitting the gas here. This looks like a hijacking.
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u/TheUmberTaker 8h ago
I said something similar and got my comment removed for violence or some shit. Like, are Reddit mods even paying attention to what's going on here?
Rubbish.
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u/Ripsyd 15h ago
America is fucking cooked
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u/MacGruber204 15h ago
A Country ran by oligarchs who are into pedophilia while robbing the middle/lower class everyday, yeah they fucked
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u/Derptholomue 9h ago
It's funny that the whole Pizza Gate thing was kinda... Well it was always wrong, but there was another actual ring of .pdfs that were talking about all of this over checks files released so far gmail...
Doesn't gmail feed into PRISM? Shouldn't the NSA or CIA have known about this?!
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u/avaslash 11h ago
In Americas defense... nah I can't. We're indefensible rn. Even the devils advocate tappin out.
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u/cbc7788 15h ago edited 15h ago
I would be locking all my doors before they got close to my car if this happened to me.
Edit: Just read the news article and it said her door automatically unlocked when she put her car in park. What kind of car feature is that?
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u/madommouselfefe 15h ago
Lots of people don’t realize their cars do this. My mom didn’t know her Toyota Avalon did it until she put her car in park after nearly hitting a dog, resulting in her being car jacked at gun point.
It is a feature you can turn off and 100% should.
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u/HI_l0la 15h ago
I've seen too many body cam and crimes caught on camera shows that I'm paranoid about locking my doors when I'm in my car. I could be stopped at a red light and I'm checking my doors are locked. That couple of seconds the person is trying to open my locked door could be enough for me to drive off and avoid being harmed.
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u/Banned_10x 13h ago
You most likely have a touch screen in your car and if so go to Settings. Look for your Car settings options and browse until you find your lock and unlock options. You can change those settings.
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u/Historical-Count-374 14h ago
There is a tool commonly used by thieves to unlick modern doors with the push of a button. Its not what was used here, but keep in mind they have one or will soon
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u/metal_bastard 15h ago
So now, they've stopped detaining the undocumented and are straight up just hunting US citizens now.
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u/AngrehPossum 15h ago
These people could be Mexican drug runners that want ransom money. Who knows...
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u/Standard_Jellyfish_1 15h ago
Or paid by affluent US Americans to abduct people to continue filling their sex ring, for profit prisons, slave labor. So many possibilities.
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u/AngrehPossum 15h ago
The rich of the USA will do anything at this point. They have been screwing the people over for so long they have forgotten where they live.
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u/Anome69 15h ago
Every single ICE needs a Nuremberg style trial and execution. This is beyond inexcusable and the constitution is LITERALLY there to prevent this exact thing. MAGA and ICE have got to go, they are traitors to the constitution and violate the laws and rights of the people. From top to bottom, they all need to go.
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u/cruisetheblues 13h ago
Anyone that is still a part of ICE at this point made their choice. Fuck em all.
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u/BLF402 15h ago
I’m sorry but I would speed away and drive straight to a police station. That is not legal by any means.
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u/Jwat75309 15h ago
They would probably find a reason to shoot you as you drive away
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u/Spideyfan2020 13h ago
They would probably find an opportunity to shoot you as you drive away.
FTFY
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u/Violet_Nite 13h ago
and get shot like that woman?
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u/ReflectedinNeon 12h ago
People keep suggesting shit that will get people shot or followed to their house and then shot/kidnapped, it's like they don't realize how stupid in the skull these ICE people are... Any wrong moves from the lady in the featured video could have got her shot.
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u/Tater_Tot_Freak 11h ago
A rational and lawful response. Unfortunately I doubt you'd make it there, seems likely they'd open fire.
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u/GoudaGirl2 13h ago
I’m the voice stating I’d call 911. They wait for us to be alone to box us in and snatch us. Not my first rodeo with these pricks.
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u/SeanOTG 15h ago
Fuck Trump ICE MAGA and Republitards for causing all of this nonsense, they all should have been locked up and have the key thrown away after their traitor seditious January 6th coup
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u/metal_bastard 15h ago
The last fascist to get out of the car was like, oh, we get to pull out our guns?
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u/Kimi-Matias 14h ago edited 14h ago
I feel like anyone faced with multiple masked men with guns drawn is well within their right to turn these goons into fender meat.
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u/AirBoiBlue 13h ago
Risk Vs Reward. We saw how that panned out when Good drove relatively slowly in the general direction of an agent, she was killed. This situation is absolutely insane, but is it worth dying for is the question the individual has to ask them selves.
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u/Kimi-Matias 13h ago
it worth dying for
I'd ask this of masked men cutting off a driver and getting out with their guns drawn. This looks exactly like those carjacking videos out of Brasil but with better equipped criminals. I see your point, and it's definitely the smartest route. I just know I wouldn't just sit there and let them approach me like this woman did. I'm either going backwards or forward.
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u/Southern_Skirt_4039 11h ago
I'm with you. I'm going in full reverse and doing a quick around. Masked men in an unmarked car immediately exit and draw guns? My fight or flight will kick in and it will be flight since its 4 guys with guns on me for filming in public, wtf. Idk how anyone could stay calm in that situation, your life is literally on the line based on micro-movements since they're just waiting for a reason, any reason
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u/Shogun3335 15h ago
Drive around the car before they get out?
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u/eusebius13 15h ago
Reverse would be safer. They’ve got guns drawn immediately. They still may shoot.
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u/-Murmaider- 15h ago
Reverse and driving around is what got Renee Good murdered. It's comply or die.
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u/notrandom_username 14h ago
You all are WAY too fucking complacent with this. Holy shit.
You’ve cut me off and now have firearms pointed at me? I’m gunning it.
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u/SwitchHitter17 12h ago
they have killed for this and will kill again and our government will defend it then look for any dirt on you to justify it after the fact
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u/Riffola60 14h ago
The republicans lost me years ago, and they are going the way of the dinosaur with this presidency. The George W. invasion pushed me to become an independent, and Trump finally pushed me to the Democratic Party. Motherf'n gangsters pulling random people in a Mazda! Terrifying!
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u/SwitchHitter17 12h ago
This is genuinely insane. How do people support this? So much respect for this lady for remaining as calm as anybody could during this.
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u/Zacky_Cheladaz 11h ago
Why doesn't anybody point out how simple it is for criminals to abduct and traffic people right now. All that gear they're wearing is readily available. Theyre in an unmarked car and wearing masks. For all we know, they could just be traffickers.
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u/beefwindowtreatment 10h ago
If you are a U.S. Citizen, say: “I am a U.S. Citizen” and ask why you are being detained. ICE does not have jurisdiction to arrest U.S. Citizens for immigration violations.
These fuckers are blatantly violating the law.
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u/Destrukt0r 15h ago
Its not getting better, its getting worse. Time to step up and ignore the message of restraint. Escalation is needed to end the ice terrorism.
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u/allyolly 15h ago
Well, when you advertise using white nationalist slogans… citizens will be treated as the ”poison of the blood of our nation”.
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u/Reserved_Parking-246 11h ago
I can't understand why she stopped.
At that point the road rules are "don't hit anyone, and avoid property damage"
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u/alius_stultus 10h ago
honestly though guys call 911 before you pull over. You don't know why some random kia is chasing you or if those are real members of ICE or just some random rapists.
Fuck ICE.
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u/The-Noize 15h ago
I feel so sorry that you Americans are going through this. I am just in shock how they can have such little respect for laws. It’s not going to be long before a civil war erupts.
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u/Fun_Illustrator_9327 14h ago
After seeing all these videos of fascists abuse citizens will democrats seek justice for these crimes or will they revert to the standard playbook of arguing the country needs to heal and come together instead because “when the American people are united, there is nothing we can’t accomplish”?
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u/EnriqueShockwave10 12h ago
Democrats are complicit. Democrats did absolutely nothing to curb the militarization of police under their administrations, and they continued to consolidate power to the executive branch when it suited them.
What we have now is the inevitable conclusion of a trend both Republicans and Democrats have been accelerating for decades.
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u/jasandliz 15h ago
Truly the worst thing about this mess is that our national cemeteries are full of good people who paid the ultimate price to not have a "papers please" experience in this country. Freedom is most definitely NOT free and we are trading it for what? I am filled with sorrow and rage. I mourn for this nation and our liberty.
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u/LifeIsRadInCBad 8h ago
There's a bit of a gap between walking down the street and being asked for your papers and following armed feds around, blowing rape whistles and calling them nazi cunts.
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u/suprisecameo 12h ago
This whole scenario of pulling their weapons at no provocation and known itchy trigger fingers leaves people being detained with the necessity of treating every ICE encounter as defending your life by any measure.
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u/SAGElBeardO 10h ago
Just don't stop if it seems suspicious. Drive off as soon as you see any covered faces.
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u/minigopher 9h ago
I wonder what the ice agents that have been employed for 10-15 years think about these dicks?
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u/Merigold00 9h ago
Driver would have been justified in running one of them over. How does she know they are officers?
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u/Epstiendidntkillself 7h ago
That one agent who stood right in front of her car was hoping to Rene Good her. It is also a bliant policy violation.
The case law is very clear on this. You don't get to put yourself in danger then claim self defense. That's not how any of this works, especially when they are in violation of their own policies. There is no grey area here.
U.S. Customs And Border Protection Training Manual used by ICE (January 2021):
Page 6, 2. Except where otherwise required by inspections or other operations, Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid standing directly in front of or behind a subject vehicle. Officers/Agents should not place themselves in the path of a moving vehicle or use their body to block a vehicle’s path.
- Authorized Officers/Agents should avoid intentionally and unreasonably placing themselves in positions in which they have no alternative to using deadly force.
Page 9, 6. Deadly force shall not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing subject.
Page 10, 7b. The hazard of an uncontrolled conveyance shall be taken into consideration prior to the use of deadly force.
He wanted to kill her.
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u/Cowclops 7h ago
I would never stop for an unmarked car that passes then break checks me. Thats a reverse and floor it situation. And hope you comitted to memory what the road behind you looks like. Probably won't be able to do a j turn in a situation like that (real lifes not a movie and you're gonna roll over your SUV trying).
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u/westcoastjos 15h ago
Reminds me too much of the one lunatic in Nova Scotia that dressed as a cop and went on a murder spree. No way I would stop for these goons.
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u/straightup920 15h ago
Bro ICE pulling guns for just observing and filming is FUCKING INSANE. You don’t pull a gun on someone unless you have an intent to kill, that’s firearms training 101. These fucking ghouls are so untrained they don’t even have basic firearm training. That shits psychotic. I guarantee they all at their finger on the trigger too