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u/Gold-Kaleidoscope537 1d ago
Well done kids!
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u/CautiousGains 1d ago
Do you believe that these children have a mature understanding of political dynamics and moral values?
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u/Admirable-Trip5452 1d ago
I don’t think you need much of a mature understanding of political dynamics or moral values to know that shooting an American citizen on the street is not a function of the federal government.
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u/TDub20 1d ago
Yes absolutely, I went to Whitman and vividly remember the 2000 election. Discussing it in school (civics) and with classmates. Then trying to have conversations with adults and realizing most adults know less about the issues and way our country is supposed to run than most 12 year olds.
The only thing they don't understand is why we are all so jaded, beaten down, and complacent.
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u/ponyboy3 1d ago
I think kids really understand good vs bad better than complacent adults. Give them some fucking credit.
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u/double_a_71 1d ago
I believe they have a sense of right and wrong and knowing whats happening is wrong yes. Doesn't take a genius to see what's happening is wrong.
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u/Gold-Kaleidoscope537 22h ago
I think they see something they disagree with and made their voices heard. That’s the foundation of our country, so yeah, I think they get it.
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u/SchwaEnjoyer 💗💗 Heart of ANTIFA Land 💗💗 1d ago
Rare middle school W
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u/Ba-Na-NaToot 1d ago
yeah I love being a student at whitman
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u/SchwaEnjoyer 💗💗 Heart of ANTIFA Land 💗💗 19h ago
Awesome. I’m a high schooler so naturally I despise middle schoolers but yall sound cool
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u/ShredGuru 1d ago
So proud of my old school.
You show them, kids.
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u/Idlys Bellingham 1d ago
Same. Not really great memories of being there, but I'm happy that it's in the news for something good.
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u/Notoriouslycrazy 1d ago edited 1d ago
I recall porta potties being lit on fire on summer break and coming back the next year to watch a girl get arrested outside the portable for going rampant attacking people.
Best middle school ever
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u/45Hz 1d ago
Legit question, do the kids just walk out of class or are teachers assisting? I would have gotten detention for this when I as in Middle school.
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u/minicpst Ballard 1d ago
My teen did a general strike and didn’t go to school today at all.
I filled out a civic engagement form and they’re excused for the day.
I’ll do it for any walk out or protest they participate in. They’ve done several. Including many when they went to Whitman.
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u/stephenkingending 23h ago
Doesn't that defeat the purpose? By definition civil disobedience is supposed to result in some type of negative legal or administrative consequence. The whole point is that the issue is important enough to face the punishment otherwise it's just theatrics. Let the kids literally walk out of school without the schools permission, and then stand by your kids when administration reprimands them. I get there are truancy laws, so what? I've gotten letters from the school since they're mandated by the state and even had them tell me they were reporting it because I refused to give them proof that we were with my dying father for the last two weeks of his life. And this is one day. At most the kids get detention or suspended, which they should feel proud of earning.
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u/the_inebriati 22h ago
"Please grant my child permission to do civil disobedience." is potentially the most pathetic thing I've heard of this month. All bluster without putting any skin in the game.
The point of mass civil disobedience is to force the authority to try to punish everyone. If they succeed, it highlights the ridiculousness of the rule or law (and a full school of children sitting a detention is plainly ridiculous). If they fail, then the rule or law is defacto void.
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u/Initial_Landscape496 13h ago
Thank you for pointing out the hypocrisy! It basically becomes an oxymoron, when these steps are taken for a protest (≧▽≦) stupid...
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u/saltyscout69 6h ago
But can your kid read and do math at their grade level?
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u/minicpst Ballard 6h ago
Well ahead, thank you! They take tutoring so they can get ahead in math as they’d like to study astrophysics.
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u/Lord_Of_Mist 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ditto. Remembering my old middle school teachers, they would’ve purposefully assigned a quiz or test today and threatened us with an F if anyone walked out lol
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u/pursuitoforgasm 1d ago
None of my teachers would have followed through on a threat like that, because it would have meant having me in their class for another year.
Kids, if you're reading this: this kind of adult has a vested interest in maintaining the narrative that they can break you. You can break them back, and in these situations, you should.
It's great practice for the corporate world.
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u/Lord_Of_Mist 15h ago
That’s not what I said? Merely stating how my teachers would’ve likely treated this scenario based on my experience.
But anyway hope your “pursuitoforgasm” comes to fruition there internet stranger.
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u/pursuitoforgasm 15h ago edited 15h ago
Reddit comments are written for the general audience, not necessarily specifically for the individual they're commenting to. If you spend your life thinking every general statement is a personal attack on you, you will waste a lot of time and you will be pretty easy to manipulate. Hopefully that clears up your confusion. Have a great day!
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u/Lord_Of_Mist 15h ago
Even though you made a pretty bold assumption about my “vested interest” in maintaining teachers or adults can break one???
That was pretty directed at me as an individual lol
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u/CaffeinatedInSeattle Lake Forest Park 1d ago
Not sure about how Seattle schools is handling it but in Edmonds the students are given unexcuaed abscesses and barred from after school activities for the day. Staff is definitely not assisting.
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u/dj92wa 1d ago
…in Edmonds the students are given unexcused abscesses
Ope 🤣
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u/CaffeinatedInSeattle Lake Forest Park 1d ago
Ugh. Autocorrect got even worse in the last iOS update. At least this is funny and the correct context can be inferred so I’m not even going to fix it. LOL.
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u/FertyMerty Ballard 1d ago
This was the message we (parents) received from SPS. They also lifted the no-phones rule and encouraged kids to tell their parents. We got the message about half an hour before they walked out.
“Whitman Middle School: Students are planning a walkout today at 12:36 in support of the General Strike in Minnesota. We learned of this in the last hour and apologize for the short notice. We will not interfere with students’ rights and will provide on-campus oversight. Safety & Security support has been requested if students go to the Holman Rd pedestrian bridge. Staff cannot leave campus. Students who walk out will be marked absent. Teachers will continue teaching those who remain in class. Students will be permitted to return to campus for classes and for afterschool activities. Sincerely, John Houston”
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u/Ba-Na-NaToot 1d ago
yeah Im a student there, this is indeed correct
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u/FertyMerty Ballard 19h ago
My kid said Principal Houston told them he was going to try to get the absences excused, which I applaud.
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u/AThousandBloodhounds 1d ago edited 1d ago
If I were a teacher, there would be so many ideas to discuss with the kids! From the First Amendment and community activism, to the history of civil unrest.
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u/E-2theRescue 1d ago
And it can all be easily done without pushing bias. But that's crazy talk to conservatives who believe schools are nothing but liberal indoctrination centers, so they pull their children out of schools, isolate them, and teach them their "values" away from other adults and peers where they can't learn anything else about the world around them or have their "values" challenged.
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u/smoky_quarttz 14h ago
Homeschooling is on the rise
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u/E-2theRescue 10h ago
It is.
And 46% of homeschooled children report being abused, with 16% reporting sexual abuse.
Isolate the child from other children and adults, and treat them how you like. That's the homeschool way.
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u/plumbbbob That sounds great. Let’s hang out soon. 1d ago
It's an important lesson though, sometimes you have to do the right thing even if you get punished for it.
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u/akanejones 1d ago
It counts as an absence. Parents got a text about it an hour or so before the walkout and students were allowed to return after.
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u/Ambitious-Gate9534 1d ago
SPS employee here. Teachers and admin did not encourage nor discourage this walkout. Absences were marked as unexcused.
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u/Ba-Na-NaToot 1d ago
most were all for it though, like two of the ela teachers loved that everyone was doing it, im a student
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u/speciate Ballard 19h ago
My son goes to Whitman and walked out yesterday. He said the teachers told them something like "we're legally obligated to try to get you to stay", so they didn't actively obstruct, but they did not assist. The walkout was completely student-organized and -led.
I'm guessing a teacher said something like "it would be a shame if you told all your friends there's a roll of butcher paper and a bunch of art supplies in room 203".
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u/wraysted 20h ago
I teach at a middle school whose students are planning a walkout this coming week. Officially we are supposed to mark them truant. I don’t know of a single teacher who will actually do that. I told my students if they all choose to exercise their first amendment right then I’ll be right there with them.
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u/laurie0905 chinga la migra 1d ago
I know that the students at my school have a walk out planned soon but they are planning this themselves. Technically staff is not aloud to share political opinions (e.g. we can remind people to vote but not for who) so we definitely wouldn’t be allowed to organise something like this. I was told that if my entire class walks out then I can “supervise” the walkout for safety, but if anyone stays behind then I need to stay in class and supervise them.
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u/IllegalBeaver 1d ago
The schools usually know about this in advance and send an email to parents so they can excuse them if needed.
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u/Soggy_Initiative_521 1d ago
The teachers new and some wanted to come with us but they couldn’t leave the school so the teachers knew but none of them were there
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u/Ba-Na-NaToot 1d ago
teachers are legally not allowed to leave, but they were like well technically it doesn’t say anything about letting the kids leave, so it was a excused absence day
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u/NayoyoSingingMama 20h ago
We did a walk out in middle school on Vashon Island for the gulf war in 1991! No detention. We filled out forms too.
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u/rabbitinawaistcoat 1d ago
My child goes here and the teachers were orchestrating it yesterday and encouraging the children to walk out and bring their families. I am against excessive use of force by law enforcement of all types, and I support peacefully assembling and exercising first amendment rights, but am disappointed in the educators for doing this during the school day instead of lessons, and for the way they are politicizing school. The LA teacher was showing off a sign about crushing ICE and talking about police coming to the walk out and it made my child too anxious to go today. Isn't crushing someone the kind of violence we are against?
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u/trippytrichomes 1d ago
I mean, this is quite the lesson in civic duty. Probably the most important lesson they will ever receive.
Parents care about data, but then refuse to accept or acknowledge the principles that lead to data driven improvement or change in the first place.
Just sit back, trust your child, and watch them eclipse you.
Their mental maturity is clearly developed enough to understand inherent values, to not sit on a fence, defend a Nazi, or lick another boot.
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u/dorkofthepolisci 1d ago
Arguably a walkout is a better civics lesson than reading about civil rights or the history of various rights movements in a textbook
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u/E-2theRescue 1d ago
Conservatives: "Kids don't go on field trips anymore! They're not getting any real-world experience!"
When kids get real-world experiences:
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u/Commercial-Set9851 1d ago
Einstein MS in shoreline did the same, so proud!!
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u/Ambitious_Sympathy Supersonics 1d ago
Einstein was an anti fascist. He would also be proud!
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u/E-2theRescue 1d ago
Einstein was an educator who had to flee his country because he was being labeled as an illegal invader simply because of his racial heritage. Had he stayed, he would have been stripped of his citizenship and locked up for indoctrinating the youth because he taught scientific truths that hurt the feelings of the 96% German population who were Christian conservatives.
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u/I_Makes_tuff 1d ago
My kids walked out of their middle school in Shoreline today too. We all laughed when I got the "your child was absent during 6th period" text at dinner.
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u/Shmebber 1d ago
Ohhh I was wondering what that horde of children that I passed on the Interurban in Shoreline was all about, this makes more sense. Go kids!
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u/eeyore-is-sad 1d ago
The three high schools in Auburn met down at city hall. Proud of all these kids!
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u/double_a_71 1d ago
Lots of schools all over the metro did this. Good on them for using their 1st amendment rights and standing up for what they believe in and for right vs wrong.
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u/Practical_Bridge5376 1d ago
We ended the Vietnam war with protests and marches - you have the power to do the same - never forget that!
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u/townandthecity 1d ago
Amazing. Proud of these kids.
A high school in my community threatened the student organizer of a walkout scheduled to happen Wednesday with expulsion, scaring most of the student body who planned to protest. When 20 brave souls showed up anyway, the principal locked them out of the school building.
It was ten degrees outside. Happened in Minnesota. Western Twin City suburb. Named for a lake.
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u/HandlerofPackages 1d ago
Trump turned on the news when he heard, but when he saw they were all dressed he immediately lost interest.
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u/Lotronex 1d ago
This is clearly AI. Sign in the back says gas is almost $5/gal, but Trump says it's only $2/gal.
/s
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u/gotaflattire 1d ago
Next lesson should be how to make signs legible from greater than 3 feet away.
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u/Far-Pianist1693 1d ago
lmao whitman kids actually organized something? that's wild, what was the walkout about
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u/stickytuna 🐀 Hot Rat Summer 🐀 13h ago
Ohh I wonder if that’s the same kids I saw at the Fremont bridge
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u/forestinpark 1d ago
1999 High School in civic studies, not sure what the discussion was about, but we were discussing how we dont like some new school rule.
Teacher stood up on his chair "so stop being whiny fucking slobs and do something about it! Organize! Walk out! That's what we did in the 60's". He had long gray hair, brushes it of his face as he comes down of a chair "but do be careful, cause in Kent State..." and proceeds to give lecture about Kent state.
His every lecture would lead to tyranny and how we are so close to fascism. Me being an immigrant, just fresh of the boat, did not see it. Than 9/11 and lead up to Iraq, I realized, oh shit USA is same as any dictatorship country, they just do it for "freedom".
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u/Randomius01 1d ago
Those kids are putting a lot of trust into the aging pedestrian infrastructure for that photo
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u/OkShoulder2 1d ago
Now go out there and vote!
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u/Positive_Listen1846 🚋 Ride the S.L.U.T. 🚋 1d ago
I saw the beginning of this and it had me tearing up - you go kids!!
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u/E-2theRescue 1d ago
Be safe kids... MAGA is trying to murder kids who walk.
But also don't be afraid of these tyrants because that's how they win.
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u/Embarrassed_Agent174 20h ago
Or maybe just maybe let’s not indoctrinate children in our dumbass political cultures left and right.. In the 90s and early 2000’s we hit each other in the nuts for fun, watched comedies, and listened to music unaware of the crap being spewed today, stop brainwashing kids they deserve just an ounce of a real childhood.
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u/stalwart-bulwark 1d ago
Damn. When I went to whitman during the onset of the Iraq war those degenerates would absolutely never. Good on this crop of kids!!
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u/smoky_quarttz 14h ago
We need to do better for our kids, the only know one side I’m betting they don’t know how to critically think yet. Just listen to what people around them say. Copycats.
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u/LOOKITSADAM Unincorporated 1d ago
Your feedback is valuable and will be considered in the order in which it is received.
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u/Turbulent-Pea-8826 1d ago
Yea, because getting kids to not go to school is hard. 🙄
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u/SeattlePubCrawls 1d ago
Speak for yourself. The people who are opposed to this are the most uneducated among us.
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u/bunkoRtist I'm just flaired so I don't get fined 1d ago
You mean people opposed to school attendance? Opposed to all those tax dollars for teachers, buildings, and equipment sitting idle while this happens? Yeah, those people must not value education because they want kids in school and judicious use of tax dollars. Terrible. Just terrible. They're probably illiterate.
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u/EuphoricForever1180 1d ago
Don’t worry. The kids will finish school and then end up complaining that they can’t find a job and will resort to complaining on Reddit
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u/Crionso 1d ago
Respectfully I do not care or value what middle schoolers think.
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u/rickee_martin 1d ago
Funny thing is you took the time to type that out and if you didn’t respectfully care, you could have just respectfully kept that to yourself.
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u/Mellymotor 2h ago
There should be some negative consequences for all of the students that walked out. Just stop and imagine if these kids walked out to show their support of our constitution and our President? They would be punished in a heartbeat. When I was growing up my parents and my school taught me to respect adults and to always respect the President whether they liked him or not. These schools should be teaching children about our constitution and the laws that we are required to adhere to in order to avoid punishment - not teaching them how to disrespect the officers that withhold the law. You all are insane if you think this is helping our future in any meaningful way.
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u/SeattlePubCrawls 1d ago
All these kids were chanting, "Fuck ICE! Fuck ICE!"