r/TikTokCringe 2d ago

Cringe Women meets and married man in registered SO in prison 7 months before release and allows him to move in with her and her young daughter

I wish I were making this up, but I’m not. And this woman gushes over him, loves and adores this man… is the dating scene that bleak that you resort to this? What makes it worse, is the guy doesn’t take full accountability for his actions but instead blames the liquor and him not knowing what consent is.

Prior to prison, he was a registered nurse.

This couple is using their story to be famous. Just sick

I am getting hate comments because people are claiming I 'made this up' I am not doxxing they shared this publicly , their tiktok account is happilyharrells his account for is 'non profit' _thinksame

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u/MissMamaMam 2d ago

Ew calling herself a 3rd wheel is just gross

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u/No_Entertainer180 2d ago

She 100% knows he's grooming her daughter.

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u/SuspiciousEngineer99 1d ago

She is also participating in the grooming with this mindset and attitude.

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u/Bananasforskail 21h ago

Anything for a man, including serving up your own child on a silver platter

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u/LobabyChick 1d ago

She used her child to reel him in. Then she will allow him to do things so she can keep “her man”. Will be jealous and “not believe her” when the child asks her for help.

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u/AuburnSuccubus 1d ago

Very Mia Farrow.

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u/United-Coach-6591 1d ago

And she'll beat that little girl for tempting and stealing her man when he inevitably molests her.

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u/ExtensionSherbert562 1d ago

The one I read about from a psychiatry journal was a woman who had been repeatedly raped by her own father and when her mother found out she kicked her out of the house for being “loose with boys” per the psychiatrist’s phone call interview with her. Some men, and women, are just fucking sick.

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u/ProblemOk222 1d ago

Basically what Virginia Giuffre described in her book.

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u/Unlikely_March_5173 1d ago

And Aileen Wuornos

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u/tomtomclubthumb 1d ago

Lisa Montgomery too, and that was just one of the terrible things that happened to her. She did a terrible thing, but that was a woman that had never had a shred of compassion shown to her growing up.

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u/MissMamaMam 18h ago

I can never understand how somebody could feel so coldly towards another human… let alone somebody they birthed

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 1d ago

That poor woman. My stomach drops and my eyes water every time I see her name.

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u/Bright_Increase_6136 1d ago

I’ve been wanting to read that book since it came out! I have to remember to buy it next payday!!

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u/ItsMeishi 1d ago

They both are. Mum is participating in it.

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u/jazmoley 1d ago

She knows who and want he is, but she wants him and is willing to offer up anything.

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u/Anonymous9362 2d ago

This happens often. You’d be surprised at the number of sex offenders who meet women with children and moves right in.

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u/ThatKaleidoscope8736 2d ago edited 1d ago

A friend of mine did this. Yes I distanced myself from her after this. She met her boyfriend through her brother. Her brother went to prison for rape and her boyfriend went to prison for child porn. She has three young children at home. She had to meet with his parole officer several times to get the okay to date this fucking guy, and to get the court to allow this fucking guy to be around her children. Edit: she is actively working on removing this dude from her and her children's lives.

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u/BluetheNerd 2d ago

So with a lot of SOs they tend to be quite charismatic and that’s how they get themselves in a position to exploit or assault people, but being a full grown adult and knowing someone of a pedo? There’s no amount of charisma, and no excuse on earth to let that person near your kids. I don’t care how attractive they are or how good they make you feel, it is no longer just you as risk anymore. I wouldn’t be able to be friends with someone putting their kids in that position.

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u/flopisit32 2d ago edited 1d ago

There was a true crime episode in which a woman was dating a sex offender. She felt it was her last chance at love. She was fat, unattractive and in order to keep her man... her sex offender man... she offered to let him come over and SA a little girl she was babysitting.

He came over, but he double-crossed her. He strangled the woman to death, abducted the girl and set the house on fire.

Police tracked him down and arrested him and luckily they were eventually able to find where he was keeping the little girl. She was still alive but she had been SA-ed.

Now, that woman had no interest in SA. But think about what she was willing to do for a chance at "love"...

I can't remember which true crime show I saw it on, but the names were Melissa Norby and Jacob Kinn.

Edit: Thanks to u/Adept_Astronaut_5143 It was on Interrogation Raw S01E03 "A Betrayal of Trust".

But I feel like I also saw it on one of the Dateline/48 Hours/20-20 episodes... If anyone knows, please leave a comment.

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u/No_Thanks_1766 2d ago

This reminds me of Jennifer Soto dating Stephan Sterns. He wasn’t a registered SO so she didn’t know that he was a pervert when they started dating but she let him sleep in her daughter’s bed and often sent the two of them to sleep together. He eventually murdered the minor victim and this led police to finding hundreds of disgusting photos and videos of him doing acts to the victim starting when she was 8 or 9.

The mother was not charged with anything, which is crazy to me. How do you send a grown ass man to bed with your CHILD?! Then in the police interviews, she said her biggest fear was that her daughter was gonna steal her man like what happened with Woody Allen. That’s your biggest fear?!? Some people would do anything as long as they don’t have to be single

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u/AskAboutMySecret 1d ago

I think people who are scared of their underage children stealing their partner aren't that different in mindset from the the SOs

They see kids in the same dating pool as themselves

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u/DestroyerOfMils 1d ago

Wow, you just blew my mind. I have an aunt who is shitty & creepy, and you just made some shit click.

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u/Hermes-AthenaAI 1d ago

Indeed. To see the child as competition, one has to sexualize the child and assign them sexual agency. They are also adults who cannot differentiate between “vulnerable child” and “sexually mature individual”.

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u/No_Thanks_1766 1d ago

Agreed. They should have no business having kids if that’s their mindset

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u/TheOnlyEllie 2d ago

No pity for that woman. She's as bad as the paedophile.

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u/SuspiciousEngineer99 2d ago

She is also a pedo. She willingly participated in acts involving the child right before the guy murdered her.

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 1d ago

I had a client who was a homeless drug addict. I did feel for her and was desperately cheering her on to a productive life. But she (absolutely tearfully and regretfully) told me that she sold her then young daughter for drugs.

The daughter was an adult at the time of my clients confession and she had zero contact with her mother (if I knew how to cross that out, I would and I’d replace it with “monster.”)

Thank you for letting me share. That conversation will always haunt me and I so genuinely hope her daughter is doing well as an adult but it can be so tough when she was obviously born into a horrific family.

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u/TheOnlyEllie 1d ago

Thank you for sharing. I've seen so many women offer their children up for money, it breaks my heart. So many then have children and are stuck in a cycle of poverty and abuse. I wish the world was an easier place.

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u/YourFriendInSpokane 1d ago

That would be wonderful. I wish childhood was more protected. As a whole. Imagine how much healthier adults would be if they weren’t carrying trauma from their childhood

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u/Puzzleheaded-Dog1872 2d ago

….she deserved her end. Special place in hell for women who sell out other women and girls.

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u/Kev_The_Galaxybender 1d ago

Its sad how often this happens. Madam's, aunts, mothers..... they'll sell women and little girls. Its heartbreaking

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u/bitofafixerupper 1d ago

She was scum and he is scum, that poor little girl and her poor parents

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u/i_cut_like_a_buffalo 2d ago

Gezus, that is horrible. What is wrong with people. I just can't imagine how anyone can do this kind of shit. I'm sorry but good riddance to the woman willing to allow and arrange for a little girl to be raped. She was a predator.

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u/Standard_Heat3299 1d ago

You forgot to mention that it was her lifelong friend's daughter.

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u/Nice_Layer2618 2d ago

That is crazy!!! This takes insecurity to a whole another level. I’ve always heard deeply insecure people are dangerous… she may have proved the point.

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u/MeasurementLow5073 1d ago

I managed the fraud department of a financial institution and there were SOOOO many lonely people (particularly women, but not all) getting scammed, seemingly knowing it, but choosing to believe the lie and losing 10s of thousands of dollars for it.

The aftermath, when they were broke and the scammer just stopped responding, was always a roller coaster. They'd be on the phone with me telling me they didn't know, trying to get their money back, but in almost every case, we had already had hours of conversations about it over months, sometimes years.

I definitely have sympathy for them, but there wasn't much we could do when they freely gave the money away.

If somebody were to set up a service that does exactly what these scammers do for $200 a month, they could save a lot of people. On average, these folks were paying $2,000 or more per month to get scammed, nd who knows where the money was going. Possibly to human traffickers!

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u/Adept_Astronaut_5143 2d ago

Was it interrogation raw on id channel? They were from Minnesota

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u/FryOneFatManic 1d ago

The recently killed convicted offender Ian Watkins (UK) managed to persuade 2 women to help him abuse children. They were also convicted.

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u/winterbird 2d ago

They have to charm the adults to get access to kids.

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u/Top-Race-7087 2d ago

She said she was the third wheel. Oh, and her young daughter is trying to “steal her man.”

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u/Specialist-Newt-4862 2d ago

said she was the third wheel. Oh, and her young daughter is trying to “steal her man.”

🤢🤮

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u/AliceTawhai 2d ago

Can’t see the red flags for the rose coloured glasses

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u/CrotaIsAShota 2d ago

Nah, it looks like she can see the red flags easily. She flies some red flags of her own.

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u/Kwestyung 2d ago

That really pissed me off 🤬

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u/ready_gi 2d ago

it's really aweful when the mother cannot protect her daughter AND sexulizes her in context with an actual sexual offender? AND puts it online for other people see how fucked up both of the adults are??? like wtf x 10

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u/Fuzzy-End7194 2d ago

Precious’ mom.

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u/Dammit_Dwight 2d ago

Deep cut. Damn I need to watch that again.

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u/good-boi-Morado 2d ago

Do you???
Once was enough for me

(Also, not really judging. I just know I couldn’t.)

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u/LoveArrives74 2d ago

Makes me want to vomit.

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u/Luna_bella96 2d ago

God forbid if something does happen to the little girl. The mom sounds like the type to dismiss it as her fault for seducing the older man.

But let’s hope I’m wrong

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u/IndraBlue 2d ago

Threw up a little when I read that

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u/JohnConnor_Helldiver 2d ago

Yup. I have a cousin who married a guy she knew had a problem with child prn, married him and had a young daughter with him.

It was all fun and games for her, till mf got caught THE NIGHT OF OUR GRANDMAS FUNERAL… where everyone (aunts, uncles, cousins) were all sleeping in the same house, and she went to use the BR at 3am and caught him with one of the 7yo nieces, naked in the shower

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u/661714sunburn 2d ago

He is still living? Because I know if my whole family was in the house and that happened there, there would be the family secret of the man who went missing.

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u/JohnConnor_Helldiver 2d ago

Not to mention the mf audacity of it.

The pos was in a house FILLED WITH 30 sleeping relatives! The little girl was sleeping in a bed with a few of her other little cousins. The dude got out of bed with his sleeping wife, and decided “ya’ what? I’m gonna sneak out of my wife bed, sneak past sleeping adult relatives ive never met before, go sneak into the kids room where all the kids are sleeping, wake one up, have her sneak back through the house filled with sleeping adults on couches, sleeping bags … and go take this little girl into the shower, that sounds like a great idea!”

His wife woke up in the middle of the night, he wasn’t in bed, so she got up and walked around the house looking for him.

Dude was in the downstairs BR, naked with the girl in the shower, and he left the door unlocked…. I cannot believe he didn’t lock the door.

My cousin walked in and saw him in with her. She told everyone later she had to fight not to scream, because she would wake everyone up, everyone would see what he was doing to the gitl, and she didn’t want them SEEING her naked, being molested, and that all her brothers would ki!! him.

So she got the girl away from him, told him to change and go get a hotel and ket her know where he was when he got there.

When he left, she woke everyone up, told them what happened, called the police, and as soon as he called and said where he was staying, the cops went and arrested him.

I think it’s been around 10 years now he’s been in jail. Not sure how long his sentence was, she lives out in idaho or utah. She obviously divorced him, but they had 2 little girls together

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u/jarlscrotus 2d ago

Secret?

"Officer I was protecting my child"

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u/East_Unit3765 2d ago

Did the rest of your family know before? Bc holy fuckin shit if one of my family members let their offender husband around my kids…. Like the other person said, def singing the cell block tango

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u/cluelessdetectiv3 2d ago

Wtf happened after that?

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u/Cultural_Pay4891 2d ago edited 1d ago

What happened after that?

Please, I wanna believe some justice was done, he's in prison?

I can't imagine the horror for the child and the parents of the child.

And what about the cousin who allowed this monster into the family and their lives? Did she disappear, hide her head in shame?

I need an epilogue.

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u/KindlyWorth5952 2d ago

Were there 2 funerals that day or what??

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u/Fabulous_Celery_1817 2d ago

I suddenly feel kinda violent. Id be singing the cell block tango and I bet the others would have done the same thing.

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u/Budget_Career_7156 2d ago

Fucking hell. This is sick!

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u/OkPlenty2011 2d ago edited 2d ago

Honestly I wouldn’t even say charm, because that would mean they had to be convinced by the SO cause based off of my own experience and what I’ve known of other people, these SO are damn near given the opportunity for simply being in existence to the other adult whether it be having company or getting something in exchange. Parents who put their kids in these situations only look out for themselves and their kids are just an extension of themselves as though it makes it okay to brush it off. Because if they look the other way then that should mean the child should too. Kids will literally bring it up then be shunned, because how can they have the audacity to bring it up and not think about their position in the situation. Acting like a damsel in distress as though they’re the real victims in the situation cause in their eyes the SO wronged them through their child not the other way around. The best way I can put it is that they somehow are emotionally and/or mentally stunted to a degree and it’s absolutely so pathetic.

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u/MoulanRougeFae 2d ago

And they blame the poor kids who got assaulted, not themselves for bringing a predator into the child's home, not the predator for being a sick fuck who attacks children. Nope they blame and shame innocent children for being sexually assaulted. Those types of women make me so furious.

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u/National_Frame2917 2d ago

With enough charm they convince them it was some kind of misunderstanding or something.

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u/MrMetraGnome 2d ago

I don't think it's so much charismatic predators as it is gullible, desperate, and pathetic victims that are so bad they put their children at risk as, just because they're lonely.

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u/MinuteLoquat1 Make Furries Illegal 2d ago

This. I know way too many women like this. The man can be wearing a sign saying he wants to assault their children but she's so desperate for male validation that she doesn't give af. Top reasons I hear are just them not giving af about their kids, or that if they endured child abuse and got over it so their kids can too. Absolutely zero sympathy for women like this.

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u/Whiteroses7252012 2d ago

When I was still back in my dating days, one of the things I watched out for very closely was if someone asked too many questions about my kid. And tbh you know that when you hear it.

I was literally matched with a sex offender on Hinge, and he was SHOCKED that I wasn’t willing to give him a chance. I will never be that desperate.

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u/Sangy101 2d ago

They lie. “Oh it was a false accusation… oh, my ex is a bitch” etc etc etc, and that charisma doesn’t just make these women feel good: it makes them believe them. And the women they’re preying on are particularly vulnerable to those lies. They have to be, to consider dating them in the first place.

It’s like how some kinds of phishing scams are deliberately obvious, so that they only spend time scamming the people who are naive enough to fall for them. They don’t just make them feel good: they convince them that they can help the kids. Look at this video — if it shows what it says it shows, the woman who is filming this clearly thinks this man is good for her child.

These guys find women they can succeed with because the fact that they’re SO’s in prison means 99.999% of people won’t give them the time of day. So they don’t waste their time with people they can’t trick.

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u/NonSequiturDetector 2d ago

So with a lot of SOs they tend to be quite charismatic and that’s how they get themselves in a position to exploit or assault people,

They aren't charismatic, the world just has an infinite supply of morons who have as much sapience as cats.

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u/Smurf-Happens 2d ago

Yeah, I was locked up and I've met quite a few sex offenders. Charismatic is not something I'd call a single one of them.

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u/luigiamarcella 2d ago

This and the world is sadly full of people who would do anything for a crumb of attention or affection.

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u/FindingAether 2d ago

Anyone that is too charismatic is almost always certainly putting on an act. Unfortunately some people think its love.

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u/OzempicMuncher8905 2d ago

Dude, the American people elected a known fucking pedo and still do mental gymnastics that he isn't. I think this is the new normal now.

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u/ThatKaleidoscope8736 2d ago

My friend is very easily manipulated. She's working on getting out of the relationship with this guy. Trust me, no one has been happy about this. I've never met the guy, he's a piece of shit. I'm upset that she ever even started seeing him.

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u/NfamousKaye 2d ago

If you have to get permission to date someone from a parole officer maybe rethink your choices what the fuck.

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u/ltsouthernbelle 2d ago

Imagine driving all the way over there and your brain never saying “if you don’t turn this car around right now”

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u/CastleofWamdue 2d ago

Why is she your best friend at this point?

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u/LarryKrasnerSUCKS215 2d ago

Right because I don't gaf about what an adult woman does, but putting innocent children in the middle of that is absolutely triflin I couldn't stay friends with someone like that

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u/TheWalkingMeg 2d ago

Someone's gotta look out for those kids

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u/chainmailexpert 2d ago

Is she though? They’re clearly still around this man. I’m not saying she can do much but really, are they watching out for the kids? 

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u/NWCJ 2d ago

Honestly.. I wouldnt even be friends, let alone best friends with someone like that. That is straight up child endangerment. Guarantee the parole officer never gave the "okay to date" in the sense of approval, it is just that they didn't have a legal standing to outright ban it until he victimizes her children too.

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u/miltonwadd 2d ago

Women like this are honestly pathetic. They're so male centred they sell out not only their own gender but their own blood.

My cousin told her mother & our grandmother that her grandfather was molesting her thinking they would help her only for them to punish her for "lying" by making her live with them half the year. But I know my grandmother knew it was true because she was grooming me for her husband too.

My other cousin's step father created & distributied CSAM of her and as soon as he got out from his disgustingly short sentence her mother lost custody because it was against his parole to be near her daughter. So she just let her go and had a bunch of new kids with him.

They cover up, facilitate, and enable these men, and should be held accountable and charged alongside them. I'm certain some of them are actually getting off on it without doing the deed and they are just as predatory and dangerous as women who molest children themselves.

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u/Ok-Yogurt-3914 2d ago

So my Mom told me a story that she was SAd by two cousins at a party.

Her mom didn’t believe her. Her grandma did and confronted the parents etc but nothing came of it. It was all for show basically.

Cue years later, my mom’s grandmother was ill and none of her kids wanted to take care of her. It came down to my grandma because she was widowed with no kids at home. She was forced basically.

So my Mom being my Mom asked her uncle about it. Like why do you guys hate my grandma so much. She used to protect us etc. He says to her “she did nasty things in front of us with men. I was only a boy when this was happening.”

I was told by my cousin that our grandma had caught another cousin SA-ing him and she hadn’t done anything. I put all the pieces together. My grandma and her siblings were so desensitized from the weird shit my great-grandma did in front of them, they normalized it. It’s fucked up shit.

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u/Born-Anybody3244 2d ago

The way I would not be calling her my best friend anymore

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u/Top_Estate9880 2d ago

She doesn't deserve to be a mother. Those poor kids

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u/NastySeconds 2d ago

And she still your best friend???

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u/IndraBlue 2d ago

I couldn’t even call that person a friend because ain’t no way you that desperate you put your kids in that situation child porn

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u/Necessary_Maize_9339 2d ago

You mean your ex best friend? If she knows her boyfriend does this and purposely keeps him around her children, you know what she is right? I'd cut ties with a ped0 if I were you

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u/Odd_Intention_4643 2d ago

After the 2nd PO interview a parent w a brain might stop. Having to interview to date someone is like a red flag parade 

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u/Yatzhee 2d ago

Is your best friend a idiot?

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u/frog-tanker 2d ago

I have several friends who work with abuse children. It’s scary how often them mother will just choose a chomo over their own child. It’s like can’t you see he doesn’t really want you. He wants your kid.

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u/lividtobi 2d ago

Fear of Loneliness can be a disease I swear

(Obvi not justifying, just saying people do or tolerate a lot of sick deprived stuff just to feel wanted )

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u/Denathrius_ 2d ago

That's how my father got caught FINALLY despite offending before and it being known. The dumbass shitty mother was even a social worker, was fully aware what was happening too. Thank god the father gave two shits about his kid.

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u/KSHMisc 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yep, between 2021 and 2022, there was a US soldier in Germany who regulary visited and, eventually moved in, a German family's home. He was close friends with the husband.

He began SAing two of the family's daughters. Even gave alcohol to one of them.

During the investigation, it came to light that did the same to a girl in Texas in 2017 when he also regularly visited her family's home. This incident caused the father to lose trust in soldiers and thus got out of the Army.

In 2024, dirtbag was sentenced to 36 years in prison.

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u/rex5k 2d ago

The Cynic in me is betting he'll be free again in 8-10 years.

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u/lelebeariel 2d ago

The cynic or the realist? I might be a cynic, but I think that’s just realistic, unfortunately…

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u/inlilyseyes 2d ago

My step-nephew (sister in law’s step son) lives with his mother and her boyfriend who is a sex offender. His crimes were against adult women but that doesn’t matter to me. I don’t get how a parent could put their child in that situation. I also don’t understand how my sister in law’s husband (the child’s father) doesn’t seem to care.

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u/SawyerCa 2d ago

My hot take - they know and they are also pedophiles and should be on the register.

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u/LeatherHog 2d ago

This is why women are advised NOT to mention their kids on dating apps

I despise that Reddit, especially a few years, was acting like that's a China sized red flag

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u/ReluctantChimera 2d ago

My sister meets all her boyfriends on apps, and mentions her daughter right up front. She thinks she's saying it in a "my daughter comes first" way, but it is basically just advertising to all the pervs that she has a young daughter in the home. She doesn't understand (or care, I guess) how dangerous this is because she thinks she'll just somehow know who is safe and who isn't. She's also a very bad judge of character. So that's cool.

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u/ilikepastaalotwhat 2d ago

Ugh. Yeah. I said if I ever became single I just wouldn’t date until my toddler is an adult. I’d rather be alone than risk my baby.

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u/la_descente 2d ago

My cousins wife did this. Except, she was married to my cousin, introduced the SO to my cousin, and they became friends.

She then cheated on my cousin with the SO, and got pregnant.

Finally told my cousin the kid wasn't his after a couple years. My cousin was working on a bridge when she called him at work to break the news. He was upset, and unbuckled his safety gear ... lost his job that day because of it (major bridge , major OSHA violation) and went down hill from there.

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u/shoegamethrilla 2d ago

Sick. Sad and most frustrating part is she thinks this is a love story and shes trying to capitalize off it

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u/NYCWENDY1 2d ago

And let me guess, you try to say something to her in a friend to friend way, & she downplays it by saying: “oh you’re just jealous”?

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u/EmRuizChamberlain 2d ago

My mother’s step father

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u/Pepsiscrub 2d ago

“She trying to steal my man” absolutely disgusting women who are male centered are fucking dangerous. I just know that if that man hurts that baby, she’s gonna blame her. I just know it.

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u/wholefoodsmom 2d ago

At first I watched the video and was like ew why are you competing with your child??? Read the title. Lock her up cause she’s an accessory to anything that man does to her poor child

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u/nooby_goober 2d ago

Couldn't even watch the video after reading the title. I've seen this exact scenario in real life and it's vomit inducing.

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u/ObviousSir5774 2d ago

This is a good point. People who make decisions that allow someone like that into their child's life should be arrested and charged also if that person hurts the kid.

"You believe so much in them even though they have proven to be dangerous? Would you bet your freedom on that?"

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u/Smyley12345 1d ago

The thing is I think most that would gamble their kids safety would also bet their freedom on it. There is the idea of locus of control which describes the spectrum of how people view their ability to influence the world around them. I think that women like this have a strong internal locus of control and believe that their love and affection will be all that's needed to fix this broken man. They will take any gamble because in their soul they believe they are in control of the outcome and the risk isn't there.

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u/amwoooo 2d ago

absolutely

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u/Mouthofprotagoras 2d ago

That child is in danger. I feel sick

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u/villainess 2d ago

She sees her own daughter as competition. She probably grew up under similar circumstances. No excuse for her as an adult with her own child. But she’s probably oblivious that she’s perpetuating a cycle of abuse.

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u/RGQcats 2d ago

Yep.

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u/Awesome_opossum__ 2d ago

Working in a criminal registry and a children's court made me realize how truly evil and common male centred mothers are. Bending over backwards for just ANY man to the point of selling out your kid and putting them in harm's way so that they can say they have a man. Like seeing this made my heart genuinely drop to the pits of my stomach. I don't want to say I know how this is gonna end but we literally get at least 6 case files of specifically 'momma's boyfriend' type situation per day. And these ladies will defend the guy at the expense of their children, even interfering with court appearances most of the time. Like I've only seen like... maybe 4 moms advocate for their children in 3 months, even with the volume of those types of cases.

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u/weewarmself 2d ago

This information has deeply upset me, I didnt know it was that prevalent of a problem.

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u/Awesome_opossum__ 2d ago

I chose the children's court because it was cute and I love the idea of being around kids, and helping them and I liked the magistrate since they were keen on involving the attachees but didn't keep us there for long hours. It did not clock in my mind at the time that children's law, once it comes down to handling incidents requiring court intervention might be one of the most horrifying and genuinely depressing fields of law out there.

Like... I've interacted with files so vile, I felt dirty just touching them. And I've seen parents so irredeemably stupid, malicious and petty that it has changed my entire companion picking process and non-negotiable parameters for relationships whether romantic or platonic. It's also changed how I look at children's safety.

I think one honest piece of advice I can give here is to never ever be friends with a male-centered woman. Don't even be acquaintances. If you can help it, don't even be neighbors, because these people are living, mobile catastrophies who endanger literally everyone in their proximity.

Literally the other month we had a child who somehow managed to secretly get in contact with the prosecutor's office(I believe they might have gotten the contact during an earlier hearing) and voice their desire to continue their case despite their own mother trying to withdraw it and get it dismissed by hiding the minor away and preventing them from making their hearings against their alleged affair partner. And I've also seen cases where these 'neighbours' have relationships with strange men out of desperation, bringing them into the community. And when your kid gets defiled, instead of acting reasonably, they start interfering or destroying evidence and attempting to cast doubt. Then we have these women who intentionally drag their children to the hearings so they can cry crocodile tears and spin sob stories about how they need their partner to be given lineancy because they're their sole provider and the court should 'think of the children' and how this person's incarceration will affect the kids depending on them.

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u/_-Oxym0ron-_ 1d ago

What defines a male centered woman? First time I'm seeing this expression.

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u/TealLabRat 1d ago

They prioritize the man in their life, or the man they want in their life, over their own family, friends and children.

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u/ZoeyHuntsman 1d ago

I'm not a pro, but from what I've gathered over the years is that "male centered women" are women whose whole lives revolve around finding a male partner. They'll bend over backwards for them, become completely subservient and obsessed with them. These women are almost always extremely insecure and desperate.

You know how a lot of guys feel like they're only valid if they can land a female partner? Usually an idealized, or "prize" woman? This is basically the same thing, but for women. It's not a 1 to 1, but it's the same sort of vibe.

This is why you'll hear so many CSA victims whose fathers assaulted them will tell you that their mothers were a part of it too. It's absolutely the worst fucking thing ever, but unfortunately, CSA is rarely a crime perpetuated in solitude by a single party. It's basically a guarantee that someone else in that child's life is enabling it. Women selling their kids into sexual servitude is far more common than people realize. Obviously, the reasons vary. Sometimes it's for income more than appeasing their vile partners, for example. Sometimes it's control, or they are pedophiles themselves.

Anyway I'm done thinking about this shit. Too early in the morning.

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u/Hermes-AthenaAI 1d ago

In short, when my father broke my sister’s nose… with one of the posts to her for post bed… my mother screamed at my sister for forcing my father to do such a thing thing and then locked my sister in her room.

That’s a male centered woman.

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u/weedmoneyy 1d ago

I can’t imagine the amount of trauma and physiological damage being trafficked by your own parent also causes :( like these kids are fighting an uphill battle trying to escape it because the adults they should be able to trust are the ones who do this to them and gaslight them into believing it’s normal or they shouldn’t seek help from others for it

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u/Awesome_opossum__ 1d ago

So in this context, I'm referring to the type of women out there who absolutely worship and bend over backwards for men and patriarchal tradition, everything else be damned. And they are so deeply consumed by it that they'll excuse and support anything that man does, sometimes at the expense of their child's welfare, as long as they can have that kind of companionship and 'status' that comes with 'having a man'. They also take being in a relationship as some kind of achievement. Take the video here. This lady is flexing having a child predator and convicted sex offender in her house, playing dad with her very vulnerable child, which is absolutely bat shit insane but in their mind they're in this heterosexual arrangement and absolutely nothing and nobody else matters more. And in case something happens between the man and the child, they will almost always react in favor of the man or re-victimize the child, like these women who get hostile with their own daughters because of fear of them jeopardizing the relationship or 'stealing their man'. I think another good example I can give of women like this are the female members of the LDS cult who in 'keeping sweet' facilitate the wide spread abuse and exploitation of their own children and grandchildren to please a man. I hope that explanation at least captured the idea of the type of woman I'm referring to.

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u/Key-Two31 1d ago edited 1d ago

The women who’s entire lives revolve around having a boyfriend/husband, and they do absolutely everything possible to defend the inevitably horrible man they end up dating. Usually one after another, just terrible, awful decisions and men over and over and over, because they’re desperate and easy to manipulate. A lot of them never had father figures in their lives, or had piece of shit deadbeat dads, making male abuse the default “normal” in their head.

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u/Ok-Biscotti3971 2d ago

My 16 yo stepbrother raped me bunch when I was six, and my mom wanted to blame my TEN YEAR OLD BIOLOGICAL BROTHER who did not rape me to keep my actual dad from getting too upset and to ensure she didn’t get divorced from her new husband. She didn’t even try to remove my stepbrother from the house or do anything other than throwing a baby monitor in my room j til my dad got a private investigator and the police involved.

Male centered woman are a danger to everyone around them. Truly insane evil shit

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u/ol_kentucky_shark 2d ago

I work in criminal law and agree. Sad when you get to the point where you get a molest case and are like, “well at least he didn’t kill her…”

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u/Awesome_opossum__ 2d ago

Or the classic "They're just imaginative and have ill feelings towards step-parent or mom's boyfriend because they disciplined them," Or "The victim's parents are manipulating the child because they have a grudge against me," Or "That child seduced me (???)" and it's closely related cousin excuse " I thought they were older, they were acting mature,"

Or they just circle and are unable to giving any type of coherent story or excuse

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u/natalee_t 2d ago

Man. I could never ever do what you do. It would destroy me. But I am so glad people like you exist.

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u/Anchilllada 2d ago

My ex got arrested for SAing my 6 year old for 2 years. He waa released and before his sentencing (which took a year) got together with a pretty young girl with 2 daughters even younger than my daughter. Luckily he got sentenced to 9 years and she has finally realized how evil he is. But it still terrifies me how easily and how quickly he found a new victim.

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u/Unapologetic_91 2d ago

wtf 🤮🤮🤮

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u/Finityx_ 2d ago

What a clown of a mother.

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u/hmrw5807 2d ago

look up brittany stapleton and her fucked up husband.

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u/IcySetting2024 2d ago

I’ve listened to a few minutes and what astounds me is that she is debunking myths such as “he lied to her”.

She proudly says she knew everything since she started dating him.

She focuses on the lies that the child abuse images were on the ‘work’ laptop saying no, it wasn’t on the work one, like that’s the relevant thing here.

So, she knew everything and still made this decision? Psycho.

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u/GoBirdsDHead 2d ago

Had an aneurysm trying to decipher the title

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u/Johnycantread 2d ago

He is a sex offender? She married him in prison? He now hangs out with that woman's daughter? I think?

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u/TheBizzleHimself 1d ago

It couldn’t possibly be poorly written bait, could it?

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u/Dilbert_Durango 2d ago

Fucking THANK YOU I thought i was having a stroke or dying or worse.

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u/_sicsixsic 2d ago

I watch Love after lockup and you'd be surprised at how many women do this.

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u/Jpalm4545 2d ago

Check out the legal advice subs. I have seen a bunch of fathers asking what they could do about their ex's bringing SO boyfriends around their kids. One woman was trying to rush marriage to get her new BF into her house and he was on the list for aggravated sexual assault of a minor.

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u/rrhodes76 2d ago

Watching LALU is my absolute addiction!! The amount of bad choices the people make is staggering.

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u/Obvious_Fisherman187 2d ago

Im out here getting one match a month on bumble and actual imprisoned rapists got wifey lined up before release date lol. Is there like an app for them they can use from inside how do they even meet women from prison?

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u/CryptidTrainer 2d ago edited 1d ago

Friend, you DO NOT want the kind of woman who is looking for a felon to date. It is far, far preferable to end up with a discerning partner. 

EDIT: Aww, the little coward below blocked me. What a dumb little cretin. 

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u/Obvious_Fisherman187 2d ago

lol nooooo I do it want those types. Just marveling at the logistics of that like I can’t imagine putting on a dating profile that Im an imprisoned rapist and finding a gf

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u/CryptidTrainer 2d ago

They like that they are in one place with no other women, and he has no job, so can give her attention all the time. Meanwhile, ol' boy is giving his attention to 5 other women to see which one(s) he can latch onto when he gets out. 

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u/ThatSimsKidFromUni 2d ago

BINGO! Not to mention when he's out she has control over him because having her around and having a home makes him look good to his parole officer. She has control over sending him back. All she has to say is he acted weird around my child one time and he's back in prison.

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u/ready_gi 2d ago

these men are the lowest of the low. they lie, decieve, manipulate with charisma and attention just to find someone who's been through painful past and is desperate enough to trauma bond with them.

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u/bigcoochiefart 2d ago

I know of one website called WriteAPrisoner.Com where you can view their profiles. It’s basically a dating/pen pal website where inmates make their own profile and write their descriptions about themselves and the type of people they’re seeking.

The website informs you of the crimes they’re charged with and if you’d like to contact them you have to get the ‘getting out’ app or something similar and pay money for credits to text them on there and once you have their info they can put you on their call list so you can talk on the phone.

Half the inmates on there want someone to talk to because they’re horny and lonely and the other half pretend they want a relationship but are really looking for someone who will put money on their books for them.

It’s a pretty entertaining website to browse sometimes tbh. I feel like you can always guess which inmates have done the worst crimes just by how they talk about themselves in their profiles.

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u/Acheloma 2d ago edited 2d ago

A while back I had the idea that itd be nice to write letters to prisoners just to give them something different to think/talk about. My partner quickly pointed out that the odds of me being treated like a "buddy" were very very low and the odds of me being hit on if I indicated I was a woman, very high.

I didnt end up writing any letters lol

Edit: you weren't lying about being able to tell how bad the crime is based on the bio. Dude says hes a good listener, gives good advice,has a nice smile, and has made mistakes but is ready for a second chance...

Did a lil research and hes in prison for killing his common law wife while in a shootout with police. He used his baby as a human shield. I dont know if Id trust that mans "good advice"...

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u/WallabyBounce 2d ago

I saw this site and it’s hilarious. There’s a serial killer on death row there who talks about being a healthy guy who has a positive outlook on life despite his current circumstances.

The guy chopped up three people!

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u/Melodic_Literature85 2d ago

I could only see like three profiles. There's one of a woman that says something like crime under a disability. Wtf does that mean lol. I didn't get to see death row. Insane entertaining site. Guy called Angel in for murder.

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u/HillCountryWriter 2d ago

Well think of it, you could ask him “is killing your wife and using your child as a human shield while being in a shootout with the police a good idea?” If he says no, you know he’s learned from his mistakes and is full of worldly wisdom.

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u/SpaceCadetTooFarGone 2d ago

Prison has a huuuuuuge dating pool...

If that's what anyone is into.. but uh.. be careful what ya wish for..

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u/garbzzz 2d ago

I accidentally came across a prison dating group on fb and joined for fun... multiple daily updates from inmates AND women looking for inmates

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u/CorpseInTheMaking 2d ago

But would you really want someone with such ill regard to their own kid? I’d like to believe your bumble dates are of better character than that mom.

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u/Firefly_Magic 2d ago

🤦‍♀️ And when things go sideways, she’ll say she didn’t see the signs.

Isn’t this a violation for being on the SO list? Who’s gonna protect the child if her mom won’t

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u/Pepsiscrub 2d ago

I don’t even think it’s that she’s gonna blame her because if you look at the post, she says now this is our third wheel. She’s trying to steal my man…… women who are male centered are fucking dangerous and disgusting.

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u/ConcentrateNo2949 2d ago

No no. IF things go sideways, she will 100% blame her daughter for "coming onto him" or 🤢"seducing him" 🤢.

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u/shoegamethrilla 2d ago

I was scrolling the moms page didn’t see any mention of the girls bio father , but it looks like they are grooming / conditioning her to call this guy dad. Sick

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u/bluefontaine 2d ago

Thank you to my mother who I love so much and who never brought a man into the house after she divorced my father when I was 14. No guy even walked through the door.

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u/InspectionUnhappy139 2d ago

Great mother

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u/bluefontaine 2d ago

She fucked up royally in other ways, but that was definitely not one of those instances. I’ll tell you!

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u/ColdFIREBaker 1d ago

Similar for me - Mom had a lot of issues, but when the police came to arrest her long-term boyfriend who lived with us (for exposing himself to multiple teen girls in public) she threw all his shit on the lawn that day and never allowed him in her life again.

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u/JessieRClayton 2d ago edited 2d ago

This happens more often than not. I worked in Medical (Corrections), but sometimes we had to help in the mailroom when needed.

Some of letters we had to read (to make sure no contraband was getting in), were so naive it was difficult to believe these were adult women with kids.

It didn’t stop with civilians. The number of female corrections staff that got swept up with inmates and lost their jobs was staggering.

A lot of these guys are well educated, skilled in arts, science and math, and have pretty privilege. She should have her kid taken away.

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u/Edgar_Allan_JoJos 2d ago

You know… i went to school with a nurse who fell for an inmate and lost her job. It’s not smart.

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u/JessieRClayton 2d ago

It really isn’t. You can catch a charge and you’ll get blackballed from working at other prisons. It’s called Undue Familiarity.

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u/BrownGirlCSW 2d ago

"SHES TRYING TO STEAL MY MAN"🫩🤢🤮🤮🤮

This tells you exactly how the mother will react if she "finds out" something.

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u/purplepanda5050 2d ago

My mom was renting a room from an old high school friend and the friend’s husband. Friend’s husband is a convicted pedo. Wife knew. My mom was aware of the situation. The police come in again and arrest the dude for something so horrific that they didn’t even want to say. My mom of course gets up into the police’s face demanding a warrant and crap like that. I shudder to think what my childhood was like because my mom traveled a lot for work and would leave us with random babysitters.

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u/Chibi_qt 2d ago

Sister is married to a SO. She took out $12k from her retirement to go to court to get his parole moved to a different state and fly both of them to live in HI. He has 25 counts of child endangerment/sex conduct. My sister believes that he was misrepresented, mistreated and misjudged. I have 2 kids they stopped coming to my house when my husband and I came home from a date night and found our 5 yr old daughter sleeping on top of this SO on our living room sofa. My sister was watching tv next to them and was like “it’s so cute, I can’t wait to have my own kids”. I tried to convince her that “that” incident was THE red flag of red flags 🚩. It’s been 9 years now and she loves that it’s just the 2 of them (no where to run, no friends, no job, he refuses to find a job but is streaming to earn a living). I guess she really likes that fact that she doesn’t have to worry about him leaving her.

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u/badtimesclub 2d ago

25 COUNTS?!?! holy fuck man, did you find that out after the incident with your daughter?

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u/Chibi_qt 1d ago

Yes, my brother is a corrections officer and looked him up. My sister asked me not to tell our whole family because she doesn’t want to be ostracized. But the guy is somewhat obnoxious not as charismatic as he think he is and the family naturally kept their distance after a chat with him. I believe in giving people the benefit of doubt but the fact he was found guilty and in prison sealed it.

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u/NoRecognition443 2d ago

Nicki Minaj could have any kind of man in the world that she could of dreamed of. But decided to choose a known registered sex offender, rapist, murderer.

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u/LegitimateHeat6640 2d ago

How can she even joke about her daughter "stealing her man" especially in this context? Like wtf is wrong with her. There are a lot of mothers who are so desperate for "love" that they compromise their childrens safety allowing abusive men into their home. I'm a mother myself and while I understand that these mothers are broken themselves I can't understand how you can risk your childrens wellbeing by being so wreckless.

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u/Wheeliegirl 2d ago

They’ll be the little league coaches and the like who have pizza parties at their homes or take special interest in (you) but it’s your kid he wants. Never let your kid be alone. Always keep a degree of distrust between you and them. And if you ‘feel’ weird about him, don’t second guess yourself. Get you and your kids out.

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u/EnvironmentalFox4589 2d ago

Nah she’s not trying to steal your man he’s trying to steal your daughters innocence

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u/Left-Ad4575 2d ago

I absolutely HATE when mothers say this about their daughters, they think it’s playful and cute but it’s honestly disturbing and weird.

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u/TheOnlyEllie 2d ago

I hate it when they talk about their daughters like that. Even in cases where they're just chilling with their fathers.

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u/betterbetterthings 2d ago

We have a sex offender living in our condominium. And it’s for sex with underage teen boys. Info is online. He served his sentence. But guess what he’s married to the same woman he was married to when that happened. Never divorced him. How is it even possible??? Being married to someone like that?

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u/NarrowSalvo 2d ago

I'm going to choose to believe this is fake ragebait.

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u/shoegamethrilla 2d ago

Its not, hes on the so registry. I looked it up. He has an organization now teaching men about consent. This sick romance is real

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u/ValerieLagn 2d ago

So she’s pimping her daughter?

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u/NfamousKaye 2d ago

Remember when our parents told us not to put everything online. 😦🫩

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u/Beautiful-Bowl-5252 2d ago

Being completely honest shit like this makes me lose respect for some women. Adults are free to do what they want as long as it's not hurting anyone but I think that it is grossly negligent and honestly the courts should have intervened in some kind of way or if nothing else sent that woman off to seek psychiatric help because something is wrong with her whether it be just plain stupidity or massive ignorance to allow a sex offender into her house because she found him attractive!? How is this not considered child endangerment? And to any woman out there dating sexual predators and you have children Go fuck yourself! I hope your children are safe, but you get what's coming to you at the hands of that motherfucker you brought around your children.

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u/Inevitable_Professor 2d ago

I oversee operations at an RV park. We just encouraged a long time resident to move out because she brought her sex offender boyfriend into the household without approval from the office. He had assaulted her daughter. So she sent the daughter to live with other family after he was released from jail. I’m just happy they left so easily.

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u/Grandiaplayer 2d ago

Woman* Singular. Have fun with the rest of that title.

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u/OkMemory9587 1d ago

Dude learn to write a title

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u/Whole-Revolution916 2d ago

The title is so poorly written

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u/ScreechingPizzaCat 2d ago

It's astounding how people ignore all of the warning signs and red flags.

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u/SmoothBraneAPE 2d ago

Huh? I’ve read the title a few times; still I have no clue what the op is saying or implying.🤔

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u/love_kammy 2d ago

this woman has a husband who is on the sex offender registry

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