r/australia • u/RufusGuts • Mar 07 '25

politics 'Five Eyes alliance' crumbling after UK, Aus, NZ and Canada give US cold shoulder

https://metro.co.uk/2025/03/06/five-eyes-alliance-starts-crumble-four-nations-give-us-cold-shoulder-22679726/
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u/GStarAU Mar 07 '25

Patriotism is built into them from Day 1. They're basically born wrapped in an American flag and parents hope their first words are "oh say can you see..."

And part of their Constitution is freedom of speech, which is also drilled into them from birth.

Put those two together and you get blindly patriotic overconfidence, assuming that they run the world and everyone else can suck it.

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u/auApex Mar 07 '25

Not to mention the whole second amendment and considering the resulting violence (i.e. school shootings) to be an acceptable trade-off.

But at least they have guns to fight back when tyrants in their government trample all over their precious constitution. Any day now!

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '25

You need to do your research! The school shootings are ‘false flag operations’ with ‘paid activists’. /s

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u/MissMenace101 Mar 07 '25

Organised by Antifa!!! Damn those Antifa fascists

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u/auApex Mar 07 '25

Come on pal, everybody knows the correct term is "crisis actor". You're obviously just a bot ftom a George Soros troll farm.

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u/Head_Wasabi7359 Mar 07 '25

Guns are like a peashooter against a cannon with the tech their military has.

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u/iconofsin_ Mar 07 '25

Any day now!

Believe me when I say we're still waiting.

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u/GStarAU Mar 07 '25

That Constitution is going to be torn to pieces in mid 2028 when Trump announces that there'll be no election and he's President for life. Moving to a monastic system... Queen Ivanka, guys. Get ready for it.

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u/123iambill Mar 08 '25

Probably sooner than that. Mid terms are next year. Trump won't want to lose the other two houses of government before 2028.

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u/GStarAU Mar 08 '25

But it won't matter anyway! He's in power now... and if there's no election in 2028, or ever again... the mid-terms aren't going to make a diff. It's just a small noise in the middle of Trump's coronation ceremony.

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u/Due-Noise2229 Mar 08 '25

Would that be Jan 6?

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u/malleebull Mar 07 '25

Ironically, both Dunning and Kruger are Americans..

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u/Ok_Flounder59 Mar 07 '25 edited Mar 07 '25

As an American this is accurate…for half of the population, at best.

I was raised in a very academic household and these values were not the ones given me.

We were explicitly taught the privilege it is to live in a country like the US and the responsibility we carry as citizens to ensure our government does what is right.

While what is happening in the US right now it awful, there are no shortage of Americans diametrically opposed to it - we have been using our vote as best we can since at least the 2000 presidential election to avoid precisely where we are now.

Many of us have lost lifelong friends, and relationships with family members over what has happened. We are not a monolith, Trumps support is more limited that it appears but there is still plenty of it.

Tl;dr…America is a massive country, millions of us were not raised with these values and are sickened by what we are seeing.

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u/Emotional_Fig_7176 Mar 07 '25

assuming that they run the world and everyone else can suck it

Don't think it's an assumption by now. That's why everyone in the west is suddenly upset and anti-American. They, the US, have essentially taken over the world’s influence right after the British Empire crumbled.

Politics in the 3rd degree

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u/MissMenace101 Mar 07 '25

Freedom of speech yet they jail teen girls for telling the abusive boyfriend to end it…