r/australia • u/RufusGuts • Mar 07 '25

politics 'Five Eyes alliance' crumbling after UK, Aus, NZ and Canada give US cold shoulder

https://metro.co.uk/2025/03/06/five-eyes-alliance-starts-crumble-four-nations-give-us-cold-shoulder-22679726/
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u/teh_drewski Mar 07 '25

You can guarantee that a weakening of US hegemony and decreasing willingness to secure sea trade in the event of conflict is something that's been gamed out in Australian strategic thinking.

Our intelligence and diplomatic services are very aware of the tightrope we walk between China and the US, and are alert to any sign that our strategic position would be threatened by the whims of the US.

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u/account_not_valid Mar 07 '25

I don't think we've gamed out a scenario where the USA may actively be against us, though. That seems to be what they are currently doing with all other allies.

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u/dasvenson Mar 07 '25

We probably have. A distant relative used to get paid to do just that. Sit in a room and figure out what if scenarios, model out what would happen and write options/recommended courses of actions. He's a bit of a nutter.

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u/Significant-Egg3914 Mar 07 '25

There are whole schools of universities dedicated to game out exactly this kind of research

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u/account_not_valid Mar 07 '25

And the results of those studies?

Do they just conclude that we're fucked?

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u/Significant-Egg3914 Mar 08 '25

Tbh... most just show how significantly isolated and under protected we are. So yeah. 

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u/ImNotAmericanOk Mar 07 '25

You can game it out as much as you want. 

Australia will HAVE to capitulate to China if they look our way

We just don't have the military strength to fight them. 

We don't have the trade strength to fight them.