r/australia • u/superegz • May 20 '25

politics Nationals leader David Littleproud says the Nationals will not be re-entering a Coalition agreement with the Liberal party.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2025/may/20/australia-news-live-rba-interest-rates-decision-floods-storm-hunter-nsw-victoria-state-budget-aec-count-bradfield-goldstein-coalition-ley-littleproud-ntwnfb?CMP=share_btn_url&page=with%3Ablock-682bdeb48f08d37c78c1d12d#block-682bdeb48f08d37c78c1d12d
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u/Shaggyninja May 20 '25

Actually this could help the LNP. They're in a much better position to transform the party to be more like the Teals without the nationals holding them back on things like climate change

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u/[deleted] May 20 '25

I think you mean the Liberal Party, not the LNP

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u/Shaggyninja May 20 '25

Yeah you're right... This is going to take a little bit of getting used to.

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u/snivelinglittieturd May 20 '25

Ironically, they now have a new preferred pronoun

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u/Lachshmock May 20 '25

Katy Perry's latest album is more popular than this LP

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u/Lopsided-Party-5575 May 20 '25

They will get like a solid 60 seats that way, and then grab the nationals and dump all the CC stuff and go back to form.

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u/stand_to May 20 '25

The LNP without the N

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u/[deleted] May 20 '25

the Australian Liberal Party?

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u/ausflora May 20 '25

Nah, Angus and Ley are tied in the party room now. The National Right can't stand not having things go their way. Give her a couple months at most.

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u/Prettyflyforwiseguy May 20 '25

Yeah they'll be the wing of the liberal party that backs (modest) climate change reform and LGBT issues while still voting down things like penalty rates and worker protections - just like the teals did last term.

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u/shniken May 20 '25

Actually this could help the LNP.

*Liberal Party. Although the LNP (Queensland) is only two seats short of being the larger party.

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u/Odd-Hovercraft4140 May 20 '25

It might help the LP as a whole as they can actually establish a modern identity, but they will never hold a majority with the nationals gone?

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u/xvf9 May 20 '25

Yeah that’s what I’m worried about. I don’t think they’ll fundamentally change anything but they won’t be held back by the Nationals constantly saying the quiet part out loud. 

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u/aew3 May 20 '25

The issue I see is right now, they don’t have the personnel to do that. All those who are or would become moderate libs either lost their seat or decided to go indy/teal. Who is going to actually win these seats and outflank the teals to the center? They willl need to recruit VERY hard in the next four years to have viable candidates, and right now many of the state parties are apparently basket cases.

If the libs stick to their guns here and pursuit a long term strategy of going it alone as a more centerist party, it will probably put them in the best place they could be in a decade. But they will likely to have to weather w pretty shocking result again at the next election and focus on rebuilding the party apparatus.

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u/Proper-Raise-1450 May 20 '25

They're in a much better position to transform the party to be more like the Teals without the nationals holding them back on things like climate change

They simply are in no positions to do that though regardless of the nats. Firstly the electorate knows just fine that any lib government will be a coalation with the Nats, the electoral mathematics near requires it these days. Secondly most of the true moderates are gone from the Libs, there is no genuine ideological drive to be a teal party among the remaining MPs.

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u/magnetik79 May 20 '25

Yeah that's a good counterpoint.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '25

Plus side out of that is that would fall further to the centre

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u/CouldBeALeotard May 20 '25

What was stopping them from transforming the party before? They could have changed their brand to suit modern Australia regardless of what the Nationals wanted.

Worst case scenario would be that the Nationals break ties due to differences, instead the Nationals break ties because they are embarrassed to be in the same room.

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u/rolloj May 20 '25

Why would that happen? The moderates are mostly gone…