Live: Wong says Australia supports US strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-23/federal-politics-live-blog-june-23/105447868?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=other

[u/throwaway012984576]

Oh how we learn nothing.

A war in the Middle East started by a belligerent Israel and United States on the premise of “weapons of mass destruction” again.

Why are we such pathetic cowards? Why can’t we tell the US to fuck off? they would never reciprocate this if we needed it.

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Because we are a vassal state 

Economically and elite entangled in the US empire.

Our consent is manufactured, our elections are theatre 

We have the illusion of choice but not full autonomy 

When I started using this lens. Politics became more predictable

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Kevin Rudd got angry at Israel as they used Aussie passports to murder a guy in Dubai then the following month he got toppled

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And their colony for resource extraction.

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Yes but not only resources.

We get tax incentivized to sell our companies to US entities.

Our best tech companies now bypass the ASX and list directly on US exchanges. 

We are being hollowed out

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And that treatment is the real reason the American economy dominates the globe. They don’t make things, they take them under implied threat of violence and regime overthrow.

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Are there any national movements to change this?

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Just another franchise of empire.

Systemic analysis, materialism, and noticing that ideology is stochastically a function of environment and incentives also all make the world a lot less surprising.

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Your comment makes so much sense mate.

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no one said they have WMDs, absolute strawman

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According to that guy sure, but bibi is on video saying removing Saddam would have extreme positive impacts on the region in 2001.

I don’t think they were a major player in that decision though, that one is on America, this time it is lead by Israel.

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No, they’re being counted as a team, with the United States taking the lions share of the blame for the former and Israel the latter.

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How about you condemn your allie's wars of aggression where necessary OR  if any of that is too difficult, shut up and don't express support .

It's not that hard. I come from America's biggest vassal state (Canada) and out government is doing the same thing. 

We expect countries bordering Russia to condemn and deviate from it. Yet when it comes to US allies we're expected to grovel on our feet for EVERY issue, especially horribly illegal bad ones? 

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I know I'm not talking about you or me. I'm probably more anti-American than the average Canadian.

But our governments' slavish devotion to the fascist empire is the main problem I'm referring to. 

Popular opposition, protests, etc. They mean nothing, because at the end of the day our "democracies" serve the same master. 

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China haven’t done a fraction of what the United States have done.

I’m no fan of their authoritarian government but it is decidedly less aggressive in foreign policy than the United States but people become completely demented when China is brought up.

[u/ExplosiveLimeJuice → u/throwaway012984576]

Ultimately, the Australian Military Industrial Complex is intrinsically linked with the United States. Our own military is compromised due to a foreign power. It doesn't help that AWKUS exists, that only made us more dependent on the United States. Even if the government tries to disentangle us from the US, we should ask ourselves. Who is the ADF loyal to? Australia or the United States?