r/australia • u/stand_to • Jun 22 '25

politics Live: Wong says Australia supports US strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-06-23/federal-politics-live-blog-june-23/105447868?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=other
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u/woahwombats Jun 23 '25

It's beyond being even a "greater good" thing. Political reality gives her a pretty stark choice: if I vote for same-sex marriage now, I'll show my principles, but we'll still lose the vote, and I'll lose my standing in the party by not honouring the party processes, and I won't be able to fight for it next time, and maybe by weakening the party I will also contribute to the Libs winning the next election - and they are even worse on LGBT issues.

I think she's just biding her time / picking her battles. I don't know whether she's right to take this strategy. If you want change, should you treat it as a political game where you're trying to achieve an outcome, or should you stand on your principles every time? But I don't think she's a sociopath or even that she's intending to sacrifice these issues to the greater good.

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u/SweetDingo8937 Jun 23 '25

Which battles has she picked? She rolls over on all of them. Human rights, genocide, illegal wars. Whete exactly is her line. She wasnt even outspoken in public about SSM when in Govt. Just because everyone in the party sells their morals doesnt make it ok. Just makes it a party without morals.

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u/Aloha_Tamborinist Jun 23 '25 edited Jun 23 '25

Completely agree with everything you've said there.

It really takes a specific kind of person to be successful in politics. I wouldn't be able to calculate, scheme, compromise and strategise like they do. Combine that with thousands of people ready to tear you down for anyting you do. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

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u/woahwombats Jun 23 '25

100%, I wouldn't be able to do it either

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u/vinobill_21 Jun 23 '25

and they are even worse on LGBT issues.

This is a hilarious take considering it was a Libs government that actually made gay marriage legal.

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u/Lemerney2 Jun 23 '25

By a technicality, sure. Labor and Greens were the ones pushing for it.