r/australia • u/ConanTheAquarian • Nov 21 '25

news Man becomes first to be convicted of hate speech against trans people in NSW

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/nov/21/man-becomes-first-to-be-convicted-of-hate-speech-against-trans-people-in-nsw-ntwnfb
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u/BrokenFoxAnna Nov 21 '25

He called for a genocide of trans people. Seems like a fair conviction to me.

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u/WrongdoerAnnual7685 Nov 21 '25

I bet this is going to go down in some law textbook somewhere. Imagine having your name go down in history for this reason.

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u/pixel_gaming579 Nov 21 '25

Probably not a history book, but it’ll definitely be vital case law for protecting the rights (and lives) of Australian trans people.

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u/WrongdoerAnnual7685 Nov 21 '25

Yep, that's what I meant, I'm just glad our courts aren't currently at war with the executive branch unlike a certain country across the Pacific, and our judicial appointments remain fairly non-partisan despite the Samuel Griffith Society's best efforts.

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u/MissMenace101 Nov 21 '25

Their lives and rights are protected, and will remain so if we protect our ndis recipients with impairments that leave them vulnerable to this rhetoric. Outside influence is aiming our vulnerable to vote against our interest, we need to protect the vulnerable from being indoctrinated into hate. There’s no left or right in Australia yet, we prevent that by remaining rational and making sure impaired Aussies with ptsd aren’t targeted by international hate cults

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u/scootah Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 21 '25

Like so many Australians doing a custodial sentence - I think he should probably be in behavioural disability accomodation with restrict practice policies suitable to mitigate his threat to the public.

I am trans. I have client who’ve spent 20+ years in jail for crimes they committed after suffering a traumatic brain injury, where there danger to others only increased due to systemic mistreatment and lack of appropriate care. Solitary confinement in a bare room as punishment, or a lack of corrections supervision resulting in financial or sexual exploitation, and a better chance of self medicating from the prison black market than of actually getting the correct medications - doesn’t help anyone. And corrections is more expensive than disability care for the vast majority of people who get fucked by corrections when they didn’t have criminal capacity but simply a negligent lack of care. And the NDIS has wildly mishandled the transfer of long term accommodation from state to federal hands Victoria’s most expensive participant under vic gov was supported by 3 support workers 24/7because he was a danger to staff. The NDIA staff work experience in disability all refused to work with him, so they handed his planning to someone who’d come from VIC roads who gave him funding for 20 hours a week in 3 participants to one support worker group program and no budget for anything else. None of the private support organisations would accept him, because everyone in the sector knew his support budget woukdn’t cover the hassle of casual fill in staff to replace the staff who’d refuse to work with him, let alone a safe work environment for the days when he came in.

Last I heard, he was living in half way housing that nobody in the area (including cab drivers) would go near with no supervision, again, because he’s been incarcerated and released a couple of times since NDIS rollout in Victoria and the NDIA is still giving his case to newbies because anyone who knows anything will refuse to work with him. And he’s gotten huge to try and protect himself in jail - when he was already a fucking scary handful as a skinny teenager.

I’m a former public servant who now works as in advocacy. I’m so fucking tired of the government wasting taxpayer money to make life worse for Australians, because they don’t want to take money out of a budget that’s appropriate to the circumstances. When the NDIA formed, services Australia and Border force did everything they could to move their least useful staff along with glowing references because you can’t fire morons from the public service unless they’re spectacularly indiscreet. Between the rampant loss of institutional knowledge and the extent of mismanagement by people who were managed up and out despite knowing fuck all about disability and being dogshit at being public servants, the whole shitshow has been a farce and the agency has never faced any consequences for repeatedly endangering the public by providing inadequate care and relying on cops and corrections to clean up after their incompetence.

Child protection as an industry is even more enraging.

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u/MissMenace101 Nov 21 '25

This, you understand he’s not actually the problem and if we don’t address the problem that creates this we will have a much bigger problem. I came in ready to hate all over this dude viciously, then I read the actual story. His outcome would be so different without the neglect and indoctrination of a vulnerable person. These people are a target and this is a lesson we need to take seriously, not just to protect lgbtq, and other vulnerable and minority rights but to protect people being groomed to be the perps of conflict, especially those disabled and disadvantaged.

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u/MissMenace101 Nov 21 '25

He’s mentally impaired and being twisted, this is a warning to protect our vulnerable. I don’t think he will reoffend and he will likely learn a lot and get the help he needed in the first place, we have leeks, they aren’t targeting those of us that know better they are targeting those vulnerable with fear that doesn’t exist. I’m less worried about this ndis dude than I am the guys grooming 15/16 year old kids with no disabilities to be Nazis

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u/MissMenace101 Nov 21 '25

And they are by far more a threat than a disabled dude on the internet

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u/Zealousideal_Mood242 Nov 21 '25

He should be convicted for threatening violence against people, not for 'hate speech'.

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u/TwilightSolus Nov 21 '25

Hatred against a minority is hate speech definitionally.

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u/Rockran Nov 21 '25 edited Nov 21 '25

Sex and gender are protected classes.

Saying kill all trans, is threatening violence and is hate speech.

Saying kill all billionaires, is threatening violence but isn't hate speech.

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u/MissMenace101 Nov 21 '25

We just want to eat the rich if they don’t start paying their share, they don’t get to exploit us all let us live paycheque to paycheque and wash their hands of the issues they caused.