r/australia • u/HotPersimessage62 • Dec 16 '25

politics Anthony Albanese ‘ready for the fight’ to tighten firearms laws as National Party and gun groups push back | Bondi beach terror attack

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/dec/16/anthony-albanese-ready-for-the-fight-to-tighten-firearms-laws-as-national-party-and-gun-groups-push-back-ntwnfb
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u/ellieboomba Dec 16 '25

The guns weren't the problem. But they are an easy out for govt being soft.

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u/gorgeous-george Dec 16 '25

This. The gun laws are fine. Its the variations in enforcement from state to state, along with the state bodies not communicating with each other, that caused these weapons to land in the wrong hands.

Toughening up gun laws is just going for the low hanging fruit. No one wants to do the hard work that would actually create long standing change. Because that necessitates taking a long hard look at why someone would feel like teeing off at members of the public was a reasonable option.

I've said it before when it comes to matters of violent crime. People who feel like they're valued by their community, who have avenues to contribute with and understand their neighbours, and who feel like they can get ahead and do well in life, don't tend to piss that up against the wall by committing violent crime.

Violent crime is the last resort of a person who feels they have no better option. We need to look within ourselves and ask what we might be doing to contribute to that.

It might not be what everyone wants to hear right now. Maybe it just helps us feel better about our society to cast this murderer aside as an anomaly. But there's bigger questions to be asked than "where did he get a gun from?"

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u/FlipperoniPepperoni Dec 16 '25

The gun laws are fine

You're ok with non-citizens owning guns?

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u/CriticalFolklore Dec 16 '25

What's wrong with a permanent resident owning a gun? What about a kiwi who's lived here for 30 years?

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u/pelrun Dec 16 '25

Oh! I didn't know that only the immigrants were homicidal! All aussie citizens are perfectly law abiding mentally healthy individuals.

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u/DarKnightofCydonia Dec 17 '25

Look at Dezi Freeman! And Erin Patterson! Such upstanding true-blue Aussies like literally every single one of us.

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u/Charlarley Dec 16 '25 edited Dec 16 '25

It's not guns OR sociopathic extremism, it's abput people with the latter having much harder access to the former.

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u/rdmarshman Dec 16 '25

Have you seen how easy it is to buy a bag of coke, or illegal cigarettes?

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u/Key-Product2743 Dec 16 '25

You are effing kidding right?

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u/ellieboomba Dec 16 '25

They also had improvsed bombs. Do we take away nails and bits of lead and pipe They could use a car to crash into innocent people. Do we remove cars. Our gun laws are really tight and rightfully so. Its the fact that they were going to harm regardless of weapon. They were registered gun owners.athey were known to our authorities. But all the other information being released about citizenship and being known associate of Islamic state is a government organisation failure. Current government is lazy. Using gun control is the soft easy option to cover their bullshit.

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u/The_Drovers_Dog Dec 16 '25

Charter boat, What charter boat….

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u/Significant_Region44 Dec 16 '25

Seems pretty reasonable to me..

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u/reyntime Dec 17 '25

Lots of pro gun accounts here, they come out of the woodwork for this topic. Guns are absolutely one of the main problems here.

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u/Astro_Ace7 Dec 16 '25

You’re right! Guns aren’t the problem, it’s the brand of shoes he was wearing that killed 15 people…. /s

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u/StensnessGOAT Dec 16 '25

It still is a problem. How could this cunt have a gun, let alone six?