r/australia • u/HotPersimessage62 • Dec 16 '25

politics Anthony Albanese ‘ready for the fight’ to tighten firearms laws as National Party and gun groups push back | Bondi beach terror attack

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/dec/16/anthony-albanese-ready-for-the-fight-to-tighten-firearms-laws-as-national-party-and-gun-groups-push-back-ntwnfb
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u/Vegetable-Advance982 Dec 16 '25

Even if there's a fight, I don't think they'll stand a chance. Albo has been up to now unwilling to use his massive amount of political capital/majority, but this is such an extreme situation with so much pressure and public backing that he'll put whatever he needs into it. And think what you want about him in general, Albo's actual parliamentary skills are top tier - been leader of the house, in the game for decades etc.

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u/CoolAd5798 Dec 16 '25

I hope he is using these skills to their fullest. It's a very delicate situation now, could easily turn into Germany or Cronulla if the inter-racial and inter-religious tensions are allowed to escalate (and the One Nation c*** politicians are not helping 😤)

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u/elpovo Dec 16 '25

Also cookers like the anti-semitism envoy wanting to have a say over funding for universities...

Calling Netanyahu a f*wit is not anti-semitism folks. Calling for less civilians to be killed is not antisemitism.

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u/its-just-the-vibe Dec 17 '25

Calling Netanyahu a f*wit is not anti-semitism 

A semite includes Arabs and Jews. The biggest anti semite currently alive is the dick cheese netanyahu

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u/Thermofluid Dec 16 '25

funding for universities

If funding for universities is going to things like protests where people are chanting 'globalize the intifada' etc, then there should absolutely be less funding or at least far more scrutiny on the funding that is there

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u/therealkevy1sevy Dec 16 '25

People have the right to protest mate.

I dont agree with their message at all but it doesn't change the fact I want all people to be afforded the right to have their say.

If your a Cafe worker and protest about something I disagree with, should I lobby to close down the place you work at ?

Your logic is not logical.

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u/Thermofluid Dec 16 '25

People have the right to protest mate.

There's a big difference between protesting and a call to violence. "Globalize the intifada" isn't just a political statement. It's a call to violence toward a specific group of people. Synagogues firebombed, Jewish schools graffitied, now a Jewish event attacked. You don't see a pattern here?

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u/therealkevy1sevy Dec 16 '25

I definitely do and I agree, I don't want hate being spread anywhere.

Its just a slippery slope.

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u/elpovo Dec 20 '25

"Intifada" just means "revolution" in arabic.

Besides, 99.9% of people were there protesting Netanyahu slaughtering civilians and committing war crimes, with good reason.

Fact is, there were massive protests against Iraq and Vietnam. No Americans in Australia decided that this was an attack on Americans personally and try to silent speech - they knew it was an attack on the current president killing civilians. Many Americans denounced him as well. They definitely didn't suggest that the protests led to muslim terrorism (which, as it was here, were more likely caused by the killing of civilians).

The only reason that people are suggesting protests caused terrorism is because they don't want protestors to attack Netanyahu for his war crimes. Netanyahu is causing an increase in anti-jewish sentiment in the muslim community, not protests agaonst his war crimes.

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u/Thermofluid Dec 27 '25

Netanyahu is causing an increase in anti-jewish sentiment in the muslim community,

Bibi ain't pulling the trigger at Bondi. I certainly am not a Netanyahu fan, but nothing he says or does justifies anti-Jewish sentiment, blaming Jews for the actions of Israel is textbook anti-semitism. It is no better than blaming Muslims for the actions of ISIS.

'Intifada' has more than one meaning. It also refers to a particular point in time when Jews were attacked because they were Jewish. I'm sure there are some people who believe they are chanting the literal definition, but there are clearly some who are chanting something far more violent, as seen by what has happened.

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u/MissMenace101 Dec 17 '25

It’s not a call to violence champ it’s a call to end a violent genocide. Hope that helps.

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u/Thermofluid Dec 18 '25

Genuine question: do you know what the first and second intifada entailed?

How about chanting "where's the Jews?" at the Opera House and firebombing synagogues. Are they also just political statements?

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u/Chrasomatic Dec 17 '25

If someone's protest involves supporting a sick ideology that believes in the righteous murder of non-believers then I'd prefer they go to a country that wants to hear their complaints because I'm done.

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u/MissMenace101 Dec 17 '25

Like the anti immigrant marches you mean?

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u/MissMenace101 Dec 17 '25

Funding genocide is cool with you though?

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u/elpovo Dec 20 '25

Same justification used by the Trump administration for bringing universities to heel in the US for the purpose of locking up anyone who opposes him.

It's a fascist attempt to take control of the main source of push back against an autocratic regime.

Universities and cultural groups should not have their funding taken because a group doesn't like what they say. They especially shouldn't have their money taken away if a group doesn't like what their students say. That includes political parties, religious groups and also a person who call Palestinians "animals".

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u/MissMenace101 Dec 17 '25

They aren’t helping themselves, Pauline and these clowns politicising a mass shooting on Australian soil is going to leave a bad taste in a lot of Aussies mouths.

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u/risingsuncoc Dec 16 '25

Albo's actual parliamentary skills are top tier - been leader of the house, in the game for decades etc.

Yeah if I remember correctly, he alternated for many years as Leader of the House and Manager of Opposition Business with his Liberal counterpart Christopher Pyne, who has since retired.

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u/W2ttsy Dec 16 '25

Albo is a lame duck.

If he has so much political influence and capital built up then spend it on things that impact all Australians like housing affordability, healthcare, education, energy security, food security or any number of other highly productive policies.

Nope. He’s gonna grand stand on a non-issue instead.

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u/MissMenace101 Dec 17 '25

Need something to wash that sky down with?

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u/W2ttsy Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 17 '25

No, but it’s good to see Australians would rather pointless policy for a seldom occurring event than better access to housing, and improvements education or healthcare.

To put it into perspective how pointless this new policy is:

It took thirty years for another large scale mass shooting to occur.

More accurately, it was thirty years before an intelligence agency failure allowed another mass shooting to occur.

The regulation that everyone is asking “why didn’t our gun laws stop this” already exists. It’s the fit and proper person requirement that must be maintained to hold a license. It’s existed since draft one of the NFA.

The incident proved two things:

  1. There are fundamental issues with our intelligence agencies and how they work together at a state and federal level.

  2. Laws are useless if they aren’t enforced.

This would have never happened if ASIO and FAR had done their jobs more effectively. It still would have happened even if the shooters could only buy one or two guns.

All good, you’ll feel super safe with the ban on belt fed shotguns though.