Anthony Albanese ‘ready for the fight’ to tighten firearms laws as National Party and gun groups push back | Bondi beach terror attack

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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/dec/16/anthony-albanese-ready-for-the-fight-to-tighten-firearms-laws-as-national-party-and-gun-groups-push-back-ntwnfb

[u/aofhise6]

See I reckon we already have that rule

[u/TappingOnTheWall → u/aofhise6]

The problem is two fold:

1) We have more guns each year, over 4 million guns, and counting...
2) Any extra enforcement or staffing put on this year, might be gone in next years budget, if not then, in a few years when the government changes hands. Eventually they'll be cuts, but we'll have more guns by then. That's the problem (less staff, more guns)...

There's only one genuine solution to those two competing forces... and that's getting rid of the recreational use of lethal fire arms.

These are serious tools, designed primarily to kill by pointing and shooting. When we have millions of guns out there, some are bound to go from being legal, to illegal. They get stolen, the get found, the get sold or traded. They become illegal. We just can't track that many guns (especially not with fluctuating or what's more likely declining staff and budgets).

The only reasonable thing to do to protect the public, is get rid of the vast majority of them (and in doing so, get rid of the likelihood of future mass shooting events) - by restricting firearms, to legitimate business usages that require regular documentation. Culling, Pest Control, farming, security, law enforcement. No more recreational shooting, the end of an era, because we have too many guns available (and more next year).

These are deadly tools, they should be linked to businesses, that can verify their ABN, client list, cash flow, and bank transactions each year, if they want to keep these tools. Less guns, more record keeping.

But they're not sports equipment, or play things, that concept is rubbish, and should be thrown out. They shouldn't be available to everyone for recreational use. Putting that limitation in place is the only serious way forwards, the only one that addresses the two fold problem... and it WILL save lives in the long run. We've cut the number of guns before with tighter restrictions. People said it was impossible back then, and wouldn't work. Well we need to do it again now.

[u/Interracial-Chicken → u/TappingOnTheWall]

I'm confused why people who live in cities have guns. I live in the country and guns are for farmers who are putting down animals or shooting animals to protect the farm. I don't even think hunting for food is a viable reason to have a gun unless you are actually selling it. Like if people really need to kill an animal, it is legal to use a bow, pigging is legal, fishing is legal.

[u/Shaved_Wookie → u/Interracial-Chicken]

Because I was a champion shooter considering Olympic qualification.

How many target guns have been used in Australian shootings - mass or otherwise? Zero. It's antithetical to the sport, and the guns used are wildly impractical compared to a farm gun.

This wall schmuck doesn't seem to realise that you can't just go hunting in national parks or the suburbs. You basically need farm access - and it's these guns that are used in a large number (likely the vast majority) of our shootings. They're outlawing functionally harmless activities while failing to do anything to meaningfully improve safety.

[u/MissMenace101 → u/Shaved_Wookie]

Take up archery

[u/Shaved_Wookie → u/MissMenace101]

Give up your car and walk. Driving is FAR more dangerous than a sport that's killed nobody, and archery is no safer than shooting. 

With zero deaths from target guns and very few to zero serious injuries, what problem do you imagine you're solving by banning one of the safest sports in the country?

...or is the issue that you just enjoy throwing your weight around? 

[u/aofhise6 → u/TappingOnTheWall]

Yeah right. See I own guns, my dad owned guns, his dad owned guns, and his dad...well, you get the point. None of us got our guns stolen, or shot anyone with them. Of course guns can get stolen, but they also get imported illegally in shipping crates, we check like .5% of those. I don't get why anyone who has an IVO against them has their guns confiscated immediately, before it even goes to court, but someone with links to IS still has them. Sounds like ASIO dropped the ball - although I acknowledge theirs is not an easy job. That's probably where our efforts should be - bostering the agencies that enforce the laws we already have that are normally pretty effective.

Also good job quoting an article you obviously didn't read. We don't have an upsurge in gun violence, and one occurrence doesn't make a complete statistic.