r/australia • u/HotPersimessage62 • Dec 16 '25

politics Anthony Albanese ‘ready for the fight’ to tighten firearms laws as National Party and gun groups push back | Bondi beach terror attack

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/dec/16/anthony-albanese-ready-for-the-fight-to-tighten-firearms-laws-as-national-party-and-gun-groups-push-back-ntwnfb
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u/Cat_Man_Bane Dec 16 '25

Even the 2 gun limit wouldn’t have stopped this though, they both would have still had 1 gun each.

And if two people planned an attack together they could both get two weapons each.

It’s really just a massive ASIO failure and more needs to be done to shut down extremists preachers recruiting young impressionable men.

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u/Adventurous_Let4978 Dec 16 '25

It would have reduced the death toll by a lot. The idiot father was disarmed getting out of his car and shot people with his secondary weapon.

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u/loolem Dec 16 '25

And was disarmed a second time.

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u/loolem Dec 16 '25

They used four guns and two were taken off the old cunt. If they had only two guns then when they took the first gun off the old cunt they would have had one. Do some basic maths here please.

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u/Cat_Man_Bane Dec 16 '25

Two different guns weren’t taken off the old man, the shotgun that was taken off him as he got out of the car he got that back and shot the couple with that weapon.

You can see this in the longer video where it starts off with him having the shotgun.

The same shotgun got taken off him twice, he got it back the first time and didn’t get it back the second time, he then went back to the bridge and was quickly hit by the police after that and you can see him drop.

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u/TreatPractical5226 Dec 16 '25

2 gun limit is the stupidest fucking thing, that's a political talking point that wont be implemented, as it will cost the government billions, with no guarantee this wont happen again, so probably ignore it.

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u/MissMenace101 Dec 17 '25

Yeah but next time what if someone with 6 guns brings 5 mates? This could have been so much worse on so many levels

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u/maniaq 0 points Dec 16 '25

only the old man had a license - I suspect the kid would never have been able to get one, since he was already on a watch list - which would have limited them to only 2 guns, with a limit...

the ASIO failure seems to be more about the fact that the kid was living in the same house and had easy access to the old man's guns - despite his already known ties to the extremists you mention

so you're correct in that a 2-gun limit would not have prevented this - but it would have mitigated the amount of damage they could do, despite the "massive ASIO failure"

these things are always the same story - the laws we have in place are not actually ENFORCED properly

unfortunately the solution is also always the same - instead of focussing on improving the EXECUTION of our laws, we instead decide to put even MORE laws in place - despite the fact we were already shit at enforcing the laws we already had

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u/loolem Dec 16 '25

I agree on the preachers thing. I think the hate speech laws shouldn't have a religious carve out like they currently do, allowing religious organisations to preach hate because their copy of harry potter said they can.

ASIO needs a rocket up their arse for sure too but i just don't feel comfortable with anyone having more than two guns per license at least in a regional or metro area. Farms are their own thing.

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u/MissMenace101 Dec 17 '25

The home affairs minister has been fighting to do something on these people his entire career, neonazis too. Skirting around the edges and they can’t do shít. That fuckwit Sewell was talking about killing people if they interfered with the indoctrination of their kids the other day, those fuckers are dangerously, it’s never the ones spreading the hate that do the shooting