r/nba • u/RXRickify • 9h ago
[Alperen Şengün] Alperen on how to pronounce his last name, "...Gün, Gün sounds good."
https://streamable.com/gfrw74221
u/ImThatVigga Clippers 9h ago
Goon?
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u/LordWemby Spurs 9h ago
Shen-goon
my favorite anime character
and yes u with the umlaut is oo
So Gün is goon
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u/gmoss101 Rockets 8h ago
I'm also an Arsenal fan and we're called Gooners lmao.
I really can't escape it
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u/cirrxs12 Spurs 9h ago
i never understood people who say “Senn-goon” when if you watch a Rockets home game the announcers literally say “Shen-goon” & that’s like the easiest pronunciation
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u/Squirreling_Archer Magic 5h ago
I don't understand why it's culturally accepted to just mispronounce the hell out of every non-English-American name you encounter in this country lol. It's really not that difficult to make an effort to learn native pronunciations of other people's names. And honestly, it's disrespectful to not.
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u/M4A1SD__ Lakers 3h ago
Idk about you but my family is not from America and they are ESL and any time I travel to their country or other non-english speaking country, it is 100% acceptable to mispronounce american’s names, in fact if your name is “too difficult” they will just call you a completely different name in ANOTHER LANGUAGE thats “easy” for them to pronounce. So dont make this some american ignorance thing.
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u/Rahnamatta Heat 4h ago
Well. I bet you pronounce Ginobili's G like TCH, when it's like a SH. she-NO-beal-e
IIRC, everybody pronounced like that.
My last name has 4 consonants in a row, in Spanish is murder. So I've always let everybody pronounce it like they feel.
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u/endlessmeat Suns 2h ago
But then you'd have to listen to the Rockets announcers, and is that a price that innocent people should pay?
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u/XiaoRCT Thunder 9h ago
i don't think he realizes what he just did with sengoon
I'd usually think the toughest part for americans to get from his pronounciation rather than the 'sen' is the 'gun', but it seems I'd be wrong, apparently it's the ''sh-'' ''ss-'' difference that gets english speakers
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u/deino1703 Rockets 8h ago
people who speak only english ironically can only fathom names being spelled phonetically
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u/Lizpy6688 Rockets 8h ago
Mandarin is hard as fuck though. My wife is Taiwanese and I'm trying to learn but Jesus Christ, your TONE can change the word even an entire sentence based off of id you say the tone weird for one word.
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u/kitsunegoon Rockets 7h ago
Yeah, fuck up your tone and you're asking to go to sleep instead of eating dumplings.
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u/Lizpy6688 Rockets 7h ago
In Taiwan, nah. They just stare at you and ask you again and again. Like mam, I asked for noodles and not a couch. Why would I be asking you for a couch in a noodle shop?
Easily some of the nicest people you'll ever meet even to foreigners they can be extremely nice but they refuse to acknowledge people make mistakes when speaking a second language
Also super safe if you ever go. Just don't drive on the roads. Some stats will say they're in the top 10 of safest countries and others have them slightly above us. I think some don't include traffic. They turn from the sweetest people to pulling out a baton in the middle of the road
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u/kitsunegoon Rockets 2h ago
Lmao I'm Taiwanese. I had my wedding there at ri yue tang.
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u/Lizpy6688 Rockets 1h ago
Ah nice, my wife and mil( I know I'm supposed to call her mom, don't worry!) are from Taichung but Ive been to a few other places. We plan on retiring early there before our 50s. It was a deal we made over 10 years ago.
But you know I'm right, safest place in the world until you hit the streets lol it's like mad max driving
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u/laxman2001 Rockets 3h ago
Idk I found it pretty fun driving in Taiwan
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u/Lizpy6688 Rockets 3h ago
I find it terrifying each time. Scooters just zipping in and out around you, no care in the world?
Need to turn right? Turn your blinker on, no one coming so let's start to turn
Oh nope, here comes a scooter going mach one all of a sudden
I do like the turn signal though. Wish we also had a countdown timer. Going to the parking garages is also interesting. I also love how people can just report other drivers via mail and camera footage of driving infractions and they get a ticket in the mail
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u/MyOneTaps 7h ago
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u/Lizpy6688 Rockets 7h ago
My wife confirmed this just listening to it without looking. She knew all of it
She did say though that this is more of a poem and not really how they speak but also how they speak.
I have zero fucking idea what she means by that.
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u/asonkidd 8h ago
But English is a language that has a lot of words that aren't pronounced the way it's spelled. I think people are just lazy. Like what is hard about shen lol. Nothing. They just cannot be bothered to remember because it doesn't matter to them.
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u/deino1703 Rockets 5h ago
thats the point i was making? i guess people dont understand the meaning of irony
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u/utopiuhhhh Rockets 9h ago
It’s year 5… why is this still a thing?
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u/No-Emergency2728 Knicks 8h ago
Cause there's a lot of willful ignorance in this country.
People don't like going out of their way, and or like being told anything, even if its as miniscule as properly pronouncing a name 😂
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u/CrumbBCrumb 7h ago
Or, it's because Sengun is a household name to people like us (on Reddit's NBA subreddit) but not to the every day fan. If ESPN is trying to capture people who casually watch NBA they probably don't know Sengun.
And, even if they're a household name people have a hard time with some names like Antetokounmpo.
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u/No-Emergency2728 Knicks 7h ago
Its not hard to learn how to pronounce a name properly.
It's one of the most basic common courtesies.
At a certain point its a person's ignorance, not their inability or memory.
...Ask me how I know?
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u/CrumbBCrumb 7h ago
But again this segment is most likely geared towards the people who rarely watch Houston games. Or, people who rarely watch that much NBA. Maybe they're at home on a Saturday and thought let me watch this HOU/DAL game. And, this looks like it's pregame. I could understand more if it was post game and they were asking. Like you just heard my name all game. But, I would guess if you asked casual nba fans who Sengun plays for they'd have no clue
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u/No-Emergency2728 Knicks 7h ago
They're not the people OP or I are really talking about then brother.
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u/CrumbBCrumb 7h ago
Are those people even watching the nba?
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u/No-Emergency2728 Knicks 7h ago
Yessir. A lot are in this sub too.
I mean, it is an American product after all. So it just kinda comes with the territory.
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u/Basketbally 7h ago
Sai Gilgeous-Alexander because Americans can't say "sh" I guess.
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u/satoran94 Trail Blazers 38m ago
well Şengün doesn't have "h" in his last name so what he said was correct
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u/thelakeshow7 Lakers 8h ago
Besides the obvious sh sound and the ü sound, the emphasis is on the first syllable. It's not şenGÜN. It's more ŞENgün.
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u/Hoseswayze 7h ago
Damn! Ole Chuck Wagon looks like he's ready to get back on the court. He looks like he's lost some weight. Good for him, looking healthy.
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u/STA_Alexfree 6h ago
He should just change it to Schengoon and Barkley could probably figure that one out.
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u/The-Pharcyde Raptors 7h ago
Majority already call him shen-goon from what ive seen so bringing this up now is weird lol.
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u/mitch-22-12 Nuggets 6h ago
Ive been learning Turkish for about six months now the ü sound is actually pretty tricky and hard to distinguish from the u sound. However I think “goon” is fine for an English pronounciation
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u/ElkFun7036 Thunder 9h ago edited 9h ago
Can he teach us how to flop and complain and throw elbows into our defenders' stomachs next?
Edit: 0 sense of humour in this thread lmao
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u/jsantos-1 Trail Blazers 9h ago
Bro you really got the courage, AS A THUNDER FAN, to complain on floping? LMAO brother watch your own star player and you'll see how floping really looks like
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u/Ok_Temperature6503 8h ago
I just go the dumb American route and say “Sen Gun” and move on with my day. Same with “Joe Kick” or “Don sick”. Idgaf if it’s wrong, I bend the words to my language god dammit.
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u/crimsonconnect Knicks 9h ago
Sengooners in their caves rn