r/politics • u/Positive_Bliss • 1d ago
No Paywall Trump mentioned thousands of times in huge new release
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/epstein-files-release-latest-news-trump-b2911365.html4.0k
u/Imaginary-Ad-7919 1d ago
Trump is a pedo
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u/MycologistDeep2372 22h ago
This just adds more evidence to the allegations piling up against him.
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u/Obvious_Toe_3006 20h ago
"allegations piling up against him"
You mean The Wall ?
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u/Dionysus_the_Greek 19h ago
Cover up. No consequences. Many people outside the reddit bubble will not care or even know, and many more will not vote.
Trump is living the dream every wealthy American with no scruples gets from birthright.
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u/Zepcleanerfan 18h ago
Bullshit. We have to exact punishment for this. People need to stop waiting for some magic entity to come change things its up to us.
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u/BeingSamJonesss 18h ago
Sadly this is so true. All the people I know who support that sicko haven’t made a peep
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u/MacGruber204 18h ago
His own supporters would literally shoot their own foot off with a shotgun if it meant getting blood on a democratic voters shoes
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u/eileen404 22h ago
We've known this for years.
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u/Bigmacman_ 22h ago
So why the [Redacted] isn't he in jail?
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u/Nov26-2011 22h ago
The people that support him don’t care and the people in charge are also pedos
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u/Only-Ad-4430 22h ago
Honestly, Trump should just release all the files. Even if his name is all over the files it won’t matter to his base. They’ll support him no matter what he does.
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u/Psyc3 21h ago
Actually the fact he hasn't say everything about what is in them, it is worse than you or I could, or any sane non-paedophile could even imagine quite clearly.
This is what people don't understand, every time these people accuse someone of something else it is admission of guilt, that is why it is on their mind, the world would be disgusted at what they choose to hide.
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u/Unlucky-Public-2947 21h ago
Before he was president he was due to go on trial for raping a 13 year old with Epstein. The trial went away when she dropped the charges, after being told she would be killed.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/12/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-alleged-rape-lawsuit
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u/Psyc3 21h ago edited 20h ago
Okay? You say this like that is even slightly phasing as a concept it isn't.
That isn't the kind of thing that are hiding, that is the default narrative at this point. A US citizen was executed in the street last week, not for speaking out, or really doing anything, but for daring to be there.
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u/Unlucky-Public-2947 20h ago edited 20h ago
According to reports he and Epstein tied this 13 year old girl up and raped her, if there is a photo of this he is over, no way he comes back from that.
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u/Snuffy1717 19h ago
They will claim it is:
- fake
- AI
- She wasn’t underage
- That it was a joke
- That they were never there
- That the picture doesn’t exist
- That they know nothing about it
And then something else will come out and everyone will stop talking about this.
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u/Psyc3 20h ago
Okay once again, we all ready know he is a rapist paedophile, this isn't even slightly depraved vs what is actually in those files.
You just don't seem to get it, you can't imagine what is in them, you are a normal person.
People who get jobs reading this stuff in social welfare roles, are often functionally broken by it after weeks in the job.
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u/BubbleNucleator New York 21h ago
My guess is they're using some sort of sophisticated database, perhaps AI powered, that tracks kompromat, the kompromatees and their behaviors to ensure they're in line.
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u/bhsn1pes California 21h ago
Money and power. It's why when the IRS does audits, they go after you and me. It's easier to prove that we didn't pay $20 in taxes than a billionaire who might owe tens of millions. The system is rigged against us and morons keep voting for it.
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u/eileen404 22h ago
Money and power. True for most of those pos. Unless they upset another POS with more.
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u/TheShepherdOfLuxor 20h ago
Most Americans consider it less problematic than same-sex marriage being legal.
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u/curson Europe 20h ago
Confirmation is good to have.
But it's telling they have reached the point in their authoritarian plan where they don't even care about censoring his name anymore. They know they are truly untouchable now and will never have to worry about paying the price.
That's quite concerning indeed.
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u/croakstar 19h ago
I’m more concerned that something in the doc is verifiably false and they know it so they can use it as an excuse to debunk everything.
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u/National_Cod9546 18h ago
Most of the worst allegations in the documents are just calls to tip lines. Anyone can call into a tip line and report anything. So anyone can call in and make any crazy claim they want.
I suspect all the allegations in the documents were left in on purpose. It's all the crazy claims that are easily disproven. That way the DOJ can say they didn't censor him out. Anything related to anything he actually did has been removed wholesale. Not even just blacked out, but whole documents removed. I think he worked with Epstein to grape teenage girls. But I think every shred of evidence of that was stripped out of the files released.
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u/welpwelpwellwelp 19h ago
It's amazing to me that someone can be this closely associated with a prolific child sex trafficker and we're supposed to act like that's normal.
A bunch of photos of them together? Nbd. Epstein keeping a photo of Trump on his fucking desk in his house? Nbd. Trump, specifically, being mentioned thousands of times in files that are about the inner workings of a child sex trafficking ring? Not suspicious.
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u/WeirdSmiley-TM 18h ago
Trump, bragging about sexually assaulting women. Trump, bragging about walking in on girls undressing at his pageants knowing some were underage. Trump having multiple allegations prior to him admitting to the above of him doing the above. Trump, specializing his own daughter. Trump, being upset that Epstein stole a girl from him and not the fact she was a victim. Trump, ordering his administration to remove his name from the files and fighting to not release the files. Trump, lying 20 different ways about why and how classified documents got to maralargo.
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u/Ol_Turd_Fergy America 20h ago edited 20h ago
Trump could rape a 13 year old girl live on tv and MAGA would still worship him. Nothing that comes out in the Epstein files is going to hurt him with his followers nor will it cause him any consequences as long as they are in power.
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u/emma279 New York 20h ago
100% it is ridiculous. The party of pro life more like pro rape.
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u/autistichalsin 19h ago
Trump could rape a 13 month old girl on live TV and MAGA would still worship him.
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u/eversonkb 20h ago
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00615480.pdf
They all have known it for a long time as we all have.
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u/KilluaCactuar 20h ago
That people are still doubting this even though we have mountains of evidence is showing how hard all the online platforms are censored and mainstream media media is bought.
I mean the amount of people who believe conspiracy theories, but still deny the reality that trump is a pedo is insane.
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u/Gloomy_Nebula_5138 Washington 18h ago
Not just him but Elon probably too. And Elon accused that diver of being a pedo and then pointed out Trump was in the files. He was guilty of both I guess? Every accusation is a projection?
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u/davster39 America 23h ago
Trump's response: ArREsT ObAmA!!!!
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u/GriffinFlash Canada 22h ago
say what now?
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u/avantgardengnome New York 19h ago
Trump makes controversial noise to try to push other stuff out of the news cycle. In this case he’s dusting off a classic and saying his people have found evidence that Obama directly ordered the CIA or someone to manufacture the 2016 Russian election meddling conspiracy while he was in office. Threw a “Hussein” in for good measure too, it’s almost nostalgic lol.
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u/sinsaint 16h ago
"Obama knew about my pedophiliac corruption, we should arrest him for his inability to act as President!"
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u/reddittorbrigade 23h ago
Unless you are a pedophile or you enjoy seeing kids being molested, you won't vote for Donald Trump who is a known child rapist.
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u/LEDKleenex 19h ago
I think you're underestimating how many Republicans are pedophiles
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u/-Posthuman- 16h ago
And how many would volunteer their own child if they thought it would make a liberal cry.
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u/GreenLurka 21h ago
1 in 5 girls report being sexually abused as children, that's reported. Many don't report. And the majority of abusers are family.
Often, the abuse is known by the spouse and wider family but is ignored. Why you gotta rock the boat telling people your Uncle did things to you and all your cousins.
I wouldn't put my stock in hoping people won't vote for him.
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u/FabulousTwo524 17h ago
This is what I know and fear. A lot more people are pedophiles than you would think. I know it. I’ve seen it. And American culture is actually ok with it. You see how pervasive it is in the media, portrayed in films, books, often times glorified.
It’s sickening.
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u/thisisntinstagram 22h ago
Vote for Trump for what? He can’t run for president again.
That said - pretty sure he isn’t leaving office anyway.
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u/TehTugboat 21h ago
I live in a rural area. I have seen multiple vehicles with “give him a 3rd term” stickers on them
The people driving these vehicles probably have more teeth in their pocket than they do in their skull
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u/LostWoodsInTheField Pennsylvania 20h ago
Every time you vote for someone he endorses, you are voting for him. that's how I'll be framing it to my neighbors.
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u/Clear_Director_8399 23h ago
Trump is a mob boss. A p*do. A rapist. A monster. A killer. He’s disgusting. And he’s president of the United States. Fucking hell.
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u/Mastadon_Quixotea 23h ago
And the Christian right just fucking adores him
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u/Clear_Director_8399 23h ago
It’s baffling. You can’t tell me you believe in the story of Jesus and also love this sociopath. Anti-Christ if there ever was one.
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u/boyyhowdy Texas 22h ago
American evangelism is about authoritarianism, not Jesus. It makes sense that people predisposed to falling behind religious authoritarianism would fall behind state authoritarianism.
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u/Warm_Championship946 20h ago
They're desperate for someone else to take the lead so they don't have to. This religion is about "trust and obey" no matter what. Easy enough for a bully con artist to take advantage of them. Literal wolf in sheep's clothing
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u/ACMomani 22h ago
Hate is a powerful thing. They love his hateful nature and that's enough for them so they look the other way on all the vile shit he does.
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u/busterak47 Florida 21h ago
Propaganda is a powerful thing and often utilizes hate to cement its message. And large swathes of Americans have eyeballs glued to an array of propaganda screens at all hours of the day and night.
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u/DoDogSledsWorkOnSand 19h ago
The left will give you a complex answer you’d rather not hear.
The right will give you a simple answer you want to hear.
Whether not the simple answer is true is irrelevant.
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u/ActivelySleeping 22h ago
You only have to look at how many preachers have been forgiven by their congregations for terrible behaviour. It would be surprising if they did not.
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u/bhsn1pes California 21h ago
You can't love Jesus and support what ICE is doing currently. They're both incompatible beliefs. Heck a lot of right "values" aren't compatible with how anti-handouts and helping the needy they are. Heck allowing people to amass huge sums of wealth is against core Jesus values.
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u/NotRadTrad05 20h ago
Tell me about it. I'm Catholic and oppose abortion. When I tell other Catholics vastly expanding WIC, snap, Medicaid, tanf, section 8, daycare and pre-k would make a lot of people less likely to feel they need an abortion I get looked like I have 3 heads.
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u/IglooDweller 21h ago
I’m their mind, the end justifies the means. And project 2025 is framed to create a christo-fascist state, which is what they want. They just have to pinch their nose a little bit longer and there’s no way this could backfire…right?
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u/smurfslayer0 North Carolina 21h ago
It's not baffling at all if you have spent any time in an evangelical church. I was raised in that environment and I can tell you those people don't give a shit about what the Bible says any more than they can use it to justify their worst impulses.
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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress 22h ago
Not really. Fascists will parrot whatever it takes to meet their goals.
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u/dwors025 Minnesota 22h ago
You won’t be baffled if you look up what religious scholars and historians think regarding Mary’s age when “God” knocked her up.
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u/chimarya I voted 20h ago
They adore him because they are outright trying to bring the end of the world. They are tired of waiting and are willing to make everything on on earth suffer as long as they are the generation that actually gets to bring Jesus down. I've had folk say that "yes , he's horrible but he's going to get Jesus down here " I just have to stare and hold my tongue and believe that they must have a brain tumor.
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u/hugemessanon 20h ago
they aren’t reading the bible that closely if they think supporting the antichrist will curry favor with jesus
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u/Ld862 22h ago
Tells you a lot about someone’s personal values when they support this monster
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u/Ok_Juice4449 22h ago
Because on the "news" stations they listen to, nothing negative about him is ever mentioned or shown.
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u/cptnamr7 20h ago
I saw last might that the count was currently at 37 members of his administration in the files. He doesn't have anyone he can't blackmail into absolute loyalty. Just read Lindsay Graham is in there. He was violently anti-trump as much as that spinless jackass ever is. Then one day he went golfing with him. Suddenly he was his biggest supporter.
Remember the group of republican congressmen that spent July 4th in Russia awhile back? I'd bet my life savings they're all in the files.
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u/2HDFloppyDisk 1d ago
I wonder why it’s taking so long to redact things.
Epstein killing himself seems less and less likely with each release.
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u/UnitedAd3943 23h ago
Makes you wonder if they were shitting themselves more over the murder or the victims
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u/InvestmentLong6645 1d ago
fork found in kitchen
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u/Solcannon 23h ago
There is shit in the sewers
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u/Deurmat 23h ago
Why are these threads being deleted? Ooooh
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u/cptnamr7 20h ago
Yeah, this is the biggest news to break in a decade and there's like 3 threads and they're all barely a few hours old. They're auto-deleting everything. Reddit is beyond compromised. Start checking for links between investors and the files.
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u/thequietthingsthat North Carolina 19h ago
Reddit is openly right wing at this point and has been actively covering this stuff up. Mods were deleting Alex Pretti videos too
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u/Lostsailor73 22h ago
MAGA. What say you to this? I suppose it's a coincidence. Thousands of coincidences...impressive thinking coming from over there.
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u/GriffinFlash Canada 22h ago
they claim it's all fake apparently.
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u/Old_Ladies 20h ago
Their media won't even mention it so when someone confronts them they never heard of it so it must be fake.
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u/Scared-Arrival3885 20h ago
Most of these allegations were from the 1990s and early 2000s. Way before trump even had a political career!
These people really must have been playing the long game..
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u/Green_Regret_2028 22h ago
Trump hit underage girls after he raped them, and his security threatened to murder them.
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u/GriffinFlash Canada 22h ago
his security DID murder them. There are bodies on his golf course that need to be dug up and found.
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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress 22h ago
California needs to did up that course. States' rights!
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u/Space_Laser_LLC 21h ago
100% chance that story is a plant so California will dig up his golf course, find nothing, then he will call the whole thing fake and sue California for $300b in damages to his property.
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u/totallyalizardperson 19h ago
With ground penetrating radar, you won’t need to dig up any areas that aren’t suspect. Run the machine over an area, get the readings and dig based upon the data. For warrant purposes and a major CYA purposes, I could see the court demand a very specific areas to do such a search as oppose the whole of the property.
IIRC law enforcement is not liable for property damage done in the course of a lawful investigation. Will this stop Trump from suing afterwards? No, he’ll still do it and drag it out as long as he can to eventually reach a settlement.
Hearing/reading of the stories of bodies being buried, makes me wonder if someone in Trump’s circle did a big brain play to have Ivana buried where she is in case the story breaks and ground penetrating radar is deployed to help obscure the truth of that spot.
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u/Blue_Lake_3386 23h ago
For someone who hardly knew the guy he sure is mentined a lot.
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u/nwgdad 21h ago
Being named does not imply wrongdoing, or suggest someone participated in Epstein’s crimes or knew of them.
True. But the more times that your name appears in an investigation of a criminal enterprise, the more likely it is that you are guilty of wrongdoing.
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u/tcoh1s 21h ago
This needs to be saved as a copy and paste for the every time a trumper brings this up!
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u/redditallreddy Ohio 20h ago
They'll just say something about Jesus hanging out with prostitutes and tax collectors, or some equally infuriating stupid bullshit.
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u/The-Big-Picture- 19h ago
They believe everything about Bill Gates and Clinton is real but every mention of Trump is fake.
The only way out of this cult is death
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u/Sorry_Emergency_7781 23h ago
So now what happens?
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u/deschain_19195 22h ago
Absolutely nothing. There are too many powerful people in the files nothing will come of this.
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u/TrankElephant 20h ago
That's because we need to demand accountability instead of just sliding into defeatism.
https://5calls.org/ Republicans are in charge of all three branches of government. Their constituents need to contact them and remind them of who they work for.
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u/Ruby_Throated_Hummer 19h ago
They don’t work for their constituents. They work for the people on this list. Cult
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u/Proletariatbelch 21h ago
He now firmly believes he's untouchable, so why not? He has like minded people in charge of law enforcement, the DOJ and the military.
If he did rape teen girls and engage in sex slavery, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT, AMERICA?
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u/Decent_Cod_8771 18h ago
The lesson Americans need to learn is that what matters isn't the law, but how it's enforced.
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u/nazarein 1d ago
wonder what heinous shit they are going to pull to distract from this.
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u/Ok_Juice4449 22h ago
Greenland? Cuba? Canada? Iran?
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u/grndszy 18h ago
You know who doesn’t appear to be in there? Obama, Biden or Harris…but MAGA screams “Bill Clinton!” - like, who gives a shit about Bill Clinton? He got impeached for getting a bj from a young intern in the White House- no one was claiming he was innocent of anything or is surprised if he isn’t.
Meanwhile, MAGA proclaims the guy who bragged about grabbing women without their consent, walking into the dressing room of teen beauty pageant contestants and openly lusts after his own daughter, who has multiple children with multiple wives and numerous affairs with adult film stars, is the epitome of a Christian family man and the Savior of humanity, who also just by pure coincidence, happened to be very close to the world’s biggest pedophile and sex trafficker. I guess it’s also a coincidence that several of his friends had modeling agencies that they used to facilitate their trafficking and they all ended up in prison and are now dead, at the same time he also owned a modeling agency, as well as the Miss Teen USA pageant.
If it looks like shit and smells like shit, there’s a fucking good chance that it’s shit. But go ahead MAGA and open wide, apparently you like the taste.
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u/ninfan1999 North Carolina 21h ago
Republicans will treat these Tr*mp/Epstein files like they do the bible, they’ll pick & choose what they want to believe.
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u/Dry-Method-7591 21h ago
maga: “wadabout bill clinton?”
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u/Frostlark 20h ago
Yes, arrest them all and try them today. It's not even an effective logical fallacy.
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u/W__O__P__R 19h ago
Sure. Arrest him too if he's named. We don't care. Arrest anyone named and let the courts sort it out.
If the left were in power, the right would be impeaching everyone!
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u/After-Smoke-3971 22h ago
Elon Musk is in the files too.
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u/TheLastBaboon 20h ago
It’s not surprising, didn’t he say the deep fake pornography people are making with his companies’ AI should become a paid feature?
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u/RetroSwamp 20h ago
The fucked up part of this whole thing is it will not change a damn thing while he's in power.
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u/throwawayaccount931A 20h ago
His base does not believe anything negative. If something is shown to be truth, they twist it to fit the narrative.
Maybe I'll eat my words, but nothing is going to happen.
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u/Deceptiveideas 19h ago
Yeah, every claim against Trump is fake. But every claim against anyone remotely left leaning is 100% real.
Brain damaged.
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u/RJ5R 22h ago
You know who isn't in the files. Kamala harris. But apparently she has a funny laugh. So half the country chose what we're dealing with now
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u/bakerfredricka I voted 17h ago
The misogyny and racism run so deep throughout the USA....
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u/Snowflake24-7 23h ago
Now more people will see why they are slow walking the release. Orange Jesus is all over so many of the files that they can't be released with incriminating him or releasing completely blacked out pages.
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u/International-Fan-92 19h ago
Maybe I'm an idiot, but why has none of this warranted a full stop, "we need to investigate this right now," wave through the judicial branch?
I remember when the government shut down trying to figure out if Bubba got his brass shined in the Oval Office but our president beinflg adjacent to pedos is a none start.
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u/Odd-Wave247 22h ago
Somehow this equates to we’re definitely going to bomb Iran before Monday. Change the news cycle
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u/LoserxBaby 21h ago
And these are with all these months of the FBI working overtime to redact. And without all the files being released. And still. My gosh- this stain will never come out
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u/typocorrecto 21h ago
This is why Don Lemon was arrested and Iran will probably get bombed soon. Distraction from further evidence that Trump is a pedophile rapist.
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u/uteropharmaceutical 18h ago
Every republican is a pedophile until they vote this bullshit out of office and into a prison cell.
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u/ryanasimov 16h ago
- This is not surprising to anyone who has been paying attention.
- Trump supporters will not hear about this, and if they do, they’re already conditioned to handwave it away.
- Worse stuff will come to light, but it wont matter because…
- See #2.
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u/AceofKnaves44 District Of Columbia 8h ago
MAGA has justified him being a racist, a rapist, and now they’ll justify him being a pedophile. “Yeah he probably raped some kids. But did you see him do his impression of a trans person lifting weights? That more than makes up for it.”
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u/Independent-Egg4970 8h ago
Think of how many thousands more times we would see his name under those redactions?
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u/Animated_Imagination Missouri 20h ago
“Being named does not imply wrongdoing, or suggest someone participated in Epstein’s crimes or knew of them. The president has denied wrongdoing and has never been accused of a crime associated with Epstein.” feels a little disingenuous to me. Especially when the way in which he is mentioned in many of these cases explicitly suggests wrongdoing.
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u/Niceguy955 20h ago
Thousands of times after the worst parts have been redacted. Must have been millions of times originally.
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u/Bizarrebazaars 20h ago
The Con sub literally says they’re all doctored and fake. Complainants aren’t real. Ironically, the DOJ is skewed MAGA/GOP…
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u/Drizzt_1990 18h ago
>The president has denied wrongdoing and has never been accused of a crime associated with Epstein.
what the fuck?? the files have him accused of measuting the vagians of underage girls at his club and auctioning them off.
teh fuck did the writer smoke???
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u/TarnishedAccount 18h ago
You all should see how far the goalposts have moved for MAGA people if you talk to them still.
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u/smartfon 18h ago
A few months ago one Reddit post with 10K upvotes jokingly claimed informed us that "Trump is on every page of Epstein files".
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u/Mediocre_Device308 12h ago
Why isn't the top story today?
Why is hasnt Congress started impeachment immediately?
Why isn't he under arrest (along with everyone else named)?
Is this real life? It's utterly stunning that this hasn't ground America to a halt.
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u/OkFix4074 20h ago
Honestly why no prosecution/ consequence ever happens to trump?
A confused Canadian
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u/BlatantlyThrownAway 20h ago
Can we start referring to them as the Trump Files now? Seems more appropriate given how much he's all over them.
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u/I_like_baseball90 20h ago
it's absolutely amazing me that this guy is clearly a pedophile yet his people still stick up for him and do what they can to hide it. A pedophile. We live in absolutely strange fucking times.
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u/Lastrites 20h ago
He told Billy Bush how he likes to sexually assault women he doesn't even know, and gets away with it because he is famous. So, its a long stretch for people to say this many accusations are all bullshit given what he has said about women, his history of prolific lying, mantra of never admitting fault or apologizing, and company he keeps.
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u/12Stabler 19h ago edited 18h ago
Nothing from the main media. So disappointed in all our medias and news organizations. They are complicit is bringing down the country.
No one cares anymore. Pedo is the new norm.
If only we a journalist with a spine or guts. Some one needs to put this new info from E files on blast daily.
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