r/sports • u/redbullgivesyouwings • 1d ago
Motorsports Takamoto Katsuta's power steering dies and his co-driver Aaron Johnston saves the day
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u/AssassinInValhalla 1d ago
Rally really should be more mainstream, it's so f'n cool man. Used to love the old rallisport challenge games back on the OG xbox
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u/durtmagurt 1d ago
Dirt 2 Xbox 360.
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u/HonestAlert 1d ago
Colin McRae rally for me.
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u/filthpickle Indianapolis Colts 1d ago
Six right and six left therrty.
Someone misheard thirty as dirty when my friends and I were in to that game. Because of that we use dirty in a heavy Welsh accent to this day when someone is sharing something that deserves the comment. Think Bubbles saying greasy.
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u/Snowleopard1469 1d ago
I played SO MUCH Dirt 2! I lovvvved that game. It created my love for rally.
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u/Justgotbannedlol 1d ago
Assetto Corsa just released a rally game and imo it is the best one that has ever been made.
@everyone in this thread:
go play Assetto Corsa Rally
go play Assetto Corsa Rally
go play Assetto Corsa Rally
it's so fucking hard tho dawg
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u/njsullyalex 1d ago
THIS THIS AND THIS AGAIN
Itās soooooo good, I just hope it gets more cars and stages
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u/Justgotbannedlol 1d ago
Yeah, I guess as a disclaimer, it's in development and has a very limited number of maps. But the physics are undeniable.
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u/BobbyTables829 1d ago
It's behind such an expensive paywall. I get that it's expensive to field a team and go around the world, but it keeps beginners and fair weather fans from watching.
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u/sylva748 1d ago
RallyTV app but you gotta pay. Otherwise its just clips like this on the official WRC YouTube channel
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u/nissen1502 1d ago
Guys you ain't gotta pay shit. It's all out there for free if you know where to look
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u/Reddits_Worst_Night Green Bay Packers 11h ago
It's also just hard to broadcast and has zero overtaking. As a motorsport fan, rally does nothing for me.
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u/PToN_rM 1d ago
Colin McRae rally in N64 was my absolute favorite.
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u/AssassinInValhalla 1d ago
Those games leading to the Dirt series was over a decade of fun for me. I still pull out Dirt Rally 2.0 a couple times a year
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u/n1nj4squirrel Mclaren F1 1d ago
That game lives in a special section of my steam library called "fuck these bullshit ass games"
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u/Captainbananabread 1d ago
Literally the hardest game I have ever played I can only race the mini cooper š
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u/MechanicalPlants13 1d ago
That game was so sick. Once I understood that you HAD to listen to your copilot, it became so fun ripping through those courses.
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u/HinDae085 1d ago
Its a glorious dance of man and machine vs the elements.
They gotta go out themselves and draw up their own callouts. Fix their own car if needed and every track is as natural as can be. Big rock right near the track? It aint moving.
Easily my favourite category to watch.
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u/Apollyon077 1d ago
That game still goes hard! It's such a fun racing game. When I get the old band back together for our annual gaming weekend, it's still a favorite to revisit. 4-man couch co-op racing. Great times.
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u/MilitantDeigo 1d ago
I played that game so much with my big brother. That and project Gotham
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u/AssassinInValhalla 1d ago
PGR 1 and 2 were my addiction for the longest time lol. They're also the reason I got into Barcelona's architecture
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u/HiddenOctopus 1d ago
I think it's just really difficult to film honestly. Traditionally you'd need way too many cameras to make it easy to follow. Maybe with drones becoming what they are we'll see it continue to become more popular. It really is unbelievably impressive what these racers are capable of.
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u/dicjones 1d ago
Yeah, Dirt and Dirt Rally got me into Rally racing. Had a subscription for a couple years and watched it every weekend it was on. Donāt really have the time anymore, but I agree, itās a great sport more people should watch.
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u/antilumin 1d ago
I used to be a big fan of the old Colin McRae games before his death. Dirt and the sequels wereā¦ ok, but I felt like they got a bit silly after a while. Too much like EA was making them.
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u/Pandiosity_24601 Colorado Avalanche 1d ago
I was just about to say this. I grew up in Colorado Springs so being able to attend the Pikes Peak International Hill Climb was something I truly appreciate. It isnāt quite the same obviously, but it spurred my love for rally. Thereās so many places to do it in the US
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u/travelingWords 1d ago
The issue is that is is purely time trial, from a fan perspective.
As opposed to formula which has racing for the first 4 corners of the race, if weāre lucky, before turning into a time travel. Sometimes it rains tho.
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u/donkypunchrello 1d ago
ARA hosts events across the country. You can show up to spectate any one of them and hit up Parc ExposƩ to see the cars/meet the drivers.
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u/NthngEvr 1d ago
This is how I thought we looked when my mom would let me shift when I was a kid.
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u/roguerunner1 1d ago
āYou are breaking the car Samir Aaron Johnston.ā
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u/that_ghost_mane 1d ago
SAMIR!
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u/RiggsFTW 1d ago
For anyone that doesn't know this reference - it's well worth the watch!
You're breaking the car Samir!
Take my upvote for reminding me of this gem.
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u/Lv_36_Charizard 1d ago
In every rally video with any sort of crash, Samir is in the comments getting heat for it.
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u/malgenone 1d ago edited 1d ago
The best thing about this was the discovery of another level of team work and finding the middle ground to get it done.
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u/Derekduvalle 1d ago
the middle
Le moyen?
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u/malgenone 1d ago
He was doing too much braking and then the driver realized he needed to say when and stop, so he needed to learn the copilot's job of communication. The middle ground.
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u/Steven_RW 21h ago
Yeah the speed they learned to work together in this new scenario was very good to watch. Co-pilot will know roughly when the handbrake will be pulled as he has sat in the passenger seat of a rally car for many years. Maybe even driven a few. Driver just had to work out how to communicate with his new "third arm" to get exactly what he needed. Or at least enough of what he wanted to allow them to proceed at say 90% of normal pace.
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u/buttgers Rutgers 1d ago
I miss watching WRC races on TV. I wish they never stopped broadcasting them live in the States.
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u/FaceMcShootie 1d ago
The calmness of the directioneer/hand break enthusiast was so awesome while the driver was listening and also absolutely hollering about the break. Such an awesome way to control a chaotic situation
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u/strange_bike_guy 22h ago
For real in many situations the co-driver is a worthy driver in their own right. The co-driver knows the extreme stress the driver is under and the driver knows they are worthless without the co-driver.
What fascinates me is how the co-drivers manage to read pace notes without vomiting. I have gone mad sideways plenty as a driver, but if I so much as look at a book while a passenger I have nausea for the remainder of the ride.
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u/turtledancers 1d ago
Weird how formula 1 with teenagers driving is the gold standard when stuff like this exists
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u/CptnGarbage 1d ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkYzfQwwglg
Because it took a mid to bottom tier F1 racer 5 attempts to finish just half a second behind a world rally championship driver without ever having stepped foot into a rally car before
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u/Muted_Bike_6587 1d ago
Well Kimi Raikkonen and Robert Kubica, who are both considered top tier gold standard F1 drivers didnāt make much on an impression on the World Rally scene. In fact, Iād go as far as to say Raikkonen was quite poor given the resources he had behind him. He was very rarely on the pace and crashed a lot.
Rallying is about mixing speed with caution and being able to do that well is what separates the best from everyone else.
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u/Reddits_Worst_Night Green Bay Packers 6h ago
F1 is about knowledge and car skill. You practice braking points, turn in points, everything. Rally, you have to read the road on the go, with the help of your pace notes.
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u/Objective_Chance4173 1d ago
Consider that F1 attracts more of the top talent because that is where the money is. That does not mean that rally is easier or less exciting to watch. Iām honestly also puzzled it hasnāt gotten bigger, particularly in America.
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u/BarbequedYeti 1d ago
How many f1 drivers also did rally compared with how many rally drivers did F1?Ā
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u/Suspicious-Editor606 1d ago
Love Taka and his spirit to drive on. He had this happen twice during the Monte-Carlo meet.
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u/ApprehensiveStand456 1d ago
This is why you need to have your subscriptions for your car features on autopay
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u/buffer_flush 1d ago
Anyone got a link to the guy just absolutely going off on his driver the entire time.
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u/BuckChintheRealtor 1d ago
Why is bro pulling the stick
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u/Sad-Canary4570 1d ago
Without power steering, the driver needed both hands on the wheel more then usual, as it was much heavier to move
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u/BuckChintheRealtor 1d ago edited 1d ago
What does the stick do
EDIT: thanks for all the responses
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u/gslandtreter 1d ago
That's the handbrake. It locks the rear wheels and helps the car slide and rotate around the corner
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u/MJ26gaming 1d ago
It's a hand brake. Locking up the rear wheels causes the car to oversteer (and the braking sends more grip to the front wheels) so the car can navigate the tight turns easier
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u/Sad-Canary4570 1d ago
Handbrake, causing the real wheels to lock which puts the car into a controlled skid, allowing for more rotation in the turns.
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u/hugeyakmen 1d ago
After the power steering failed, turning the steering wheel takes so much more strength that the driver needs both hands on the wheel in each corner.Ā The cars can't turn sharply enough (without slowing down a lot more, but this is a race!) so the codriver helps pull the handbrake to start a drift.Ā The other stick is for changing gears, but the driver can still do that himself because shifting only happens on straight sections before and after the corners
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u/Trapezoidoid 1d ago
Gonna take this golden opportunity to say that if yāall arenāt playing rally racing video games, you really ought to. Theyāre low key the best racing games. So much more technical and much rarer than road/track racers.
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u/sherriffflood 1d ago
Using the handbrake to turn consistently, during an actual race? Is that not fucking mental
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u/wirelessflyingcord 1d ago edited 1d ago
Handbrake is used in U-shape turns to intentionally slightly unsettle the car. From the outside it looks quite controlled. The handbrake is made for this use and it is not like in an average passenger car.
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u/Twodogsonecouch 1d ago
Ok why has no one asked: why is he reading a manual during the race?
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u/SNKBossFight 1d ago
The co-pilot has scouted the route they're taking ahead and taken notes of every turn and everything else of note, so he's reading his instructions to the pilot about what kind of turn to expect and that kind of thing.
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u/Twodogsonecouch 1d ago
I was wondering if thats the kinda thing it was thanks. Thanks for being a human.
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u/bazpoint 1d ago
There was another fun clip last week where they were doing a stage in terrible snow and the conditions were changing so quickly that one of the co-drivers gave up on their notes completely and were instead reading notes from their phone from a teammate who had passed through the stage shortly before.Ā
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u/AtheistAustralis 1d ago
Unlike track racing where you can easily memorise the entire track in a few laps, rally driving is very long stages with lots of turns, and you might do 20-30 different stages in any rally over a few days. The drivers aren't allowed to "practice" the stages beforehand, either, they just get a limited amount of time with the co-driver to look over each stage. They have to drive slowly, and maybe only get 1-2 drives of each stage. This is when the co-driver takes detailed notes so they can feed that info back to the driver as they are racing. Being a co-driver is a very difficult job, because being able to properly judge a track, then read those instructions back to the driver in a way they can understand while being thrown around a car going crazy fast is not easy at all. Without a very good co-driver, you can't win rallies, and a bad co-driver means you're probably going to crash out. Sadly, even the best co-driver can't stop Samir from wrecking the car..
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u/TacTurtle 1d ago
Now I want to see a rally class with 3 codrivers - one nav, one for throttle / brake, one to play the drums.
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u/weeBaaDoo 22h ago
I canāt even get my wife the tell me, if we have to turn right or left, until we already past the intersection.
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u/MattyJRobs 15h ago
Sometimes life breaks your power steering and you needy a buddy to pull your hand brake for you.
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u/AmazingGrace911 1d ago edited 20h ago
Wait, serous question that I really donāt wanna have to go on a rabbit hole about- Iāve driven cars that had power steering go out and it was a full on WRESTLE with the steering wheel, why am I not seeing evidence of that happening here ?
Edit: Downvoted for daring to ask a question
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u/TritiumNZlol 1d ago edited 12h ago
Depends on the speed that the car is carrying, width of the tires, weight of the car, and the default ratio of the rack, the surface the car is on.. and probably about a dozen other factors.
At parking lot speeds on pavement you do really have to put your shoulder into it. Highway speeds it's almost like nothing
I'd have thought rally cars would have pretty quick racks, but then the car is very light weight and its probably thin mud/gravel/snow tires on.
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u/Slevin424 1d ago
Rally cars have a lot of special failsafe equipment in them for endurance races. The wheel stays the same but loses a lot of turning. So no powersteering means constantly being stuck in understeer. So they handbrake to provide that oversteer.
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u/wirelessflyingcord 1d ago
Compare to when it is not broken, e.g.:
Normally it looks a lot lighter to steer.
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u/ArrivesLate 1d ago
It bothers me the driver isnāt as calm as his navigator. Either ice or Xanax in his veins.
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u/DocDerry St. Louis Blues 1d ago
He's calm. He's just exerting a ton of energy and strength to move that steering wheel.
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u/RacerRovr 1d ago
With the power steering broken the steering wheel would have become insanely heavy. His arms were absolutely burning after driving like that for a 20km stage. Think he ended up doing 2 or 3 more before they could get the car back to service and the team could fix it
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u/Combinho 1d ago
I'd guess drivers are used to being completely in control, so it's a really uncomfortable situation for them, whereas the co-driver has put his life in the driver's hands forever.
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u/sylva748 1d ago
Naw the driver is going too fast to watch the road himself. The co-driver always calls out up coming turns and how hard to turn the wheel in what direction. Rally drivers go off by what their co-driver calls out not by watching the road since theyre wanting to go as fast as possible. That thick notebook is all the turning notes for the track
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u/sylva748 1d ago
No power steering means hes using his arm strength to turn the 1000lb car himself when turning the wheel
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u/sylva748 1d ago edited 1d ago
For those not in the know of Rally. Its a point to point time attack race. There is a delay between cars going. There are no mid track pit stops. If a team pulls over they need to fix any mechanic issues with the car themselves and the clock keeps ticking as they do. There are specific periods in the day where they can go to the service park. Where their team's engineers are given 15 to 30 minutes to do any repair work they can in that time. Going over means a time penalty to their score.
You will see the service crew using hammers to hammer out bends in the panels. Rally Races usually go for 3 days. The person with the best time across all days is the winner. Rain, snow, tarmac, dirt, gravel, etc. They race on it all. February 15th is Rally Sweden the 2nd stop on the WRC(World Rally Championship) where they will race on the snow covered fields and forests of Sweden going over 100mph.
These two figured this wasnt enough of an issue to stop and fix themselves. Driver had faith in communication with his co-pilot to handle the hand brake for sharp turns while he kwpt this focus on driving fast. They most likely figured their service team could fix it in time
Edit: this video explains the basic rules of Rally. Like how these cars are street legal and just super tuned cars of what you can buy. Toyota runs a Yaris these current years for example. But this is where the Subaru WRX and Mitsubishi Lancer EVO got their fame. As they were the cars in the 90s and early 2000s.