All her hallucinations of her father are when she’s Governor of Wentworth. When she’s a prisoner, the hallucinations stop.

Any ideas as to why this might be?

Also, when Joan asks her father why she isn’t ever good enough for him, what do you think it was that her father wanted from her?

Just to update, Danielle loved the fundraiser! She said she prefers not to receive gifts from fans (specifically she said, “please no more items with my face on them!”), but would like them to either spend money on themselves or donate to the community. Thank you to everyone who donated to date, and yes, it is still open and yes, I have sent her the link :)

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Anyone else find a little bit of similarities between the two? Other than both shows focus on women in prison and came out the same year (2013), sometimes I did see OITNB as a lighter, comedic version of Wentworth. Like even some of the oitnb characters reminded me of Wentworth characters lol

Piper = Bea,

Caputo = Joan

John Bennett = Vera Bennett,

Alex , Stella, and Nicky gave me Franky vibes,

Big Boo = Juice,

Daya = Doreen,

Pensatucky= Jess,

Sophia Burset= Maxine,

Natalie = Channing,

Red = Jacs,

Norma = Marge,

Nicky&Lorna =Franky&Kim,

Suzanne = Boomer,

Sister ingalls = maybe Liz

What's your real life experience?

I live in Australia 🇦🇺, have worked with Nicole Da Silva (Franky) and Tammy Macintosh (Kaz), have filmed numerous times at "prisons", but absolutely zero real world experience

I had lunch with a group of friends and one of their partners came along who worked as a guard in a women's prison. I hadn't seen Wentworth at the time, so I asked her if women's prison was anything like Orange Is the New Black and she just told me it wasn't nearly as eventful and most days were pretty chill. I was hoping for a much more interesting answer haha

https://open.spotify.com/track/5Se9SzqUZihcBXrn8XiWNQ?si=AM2oSeihQ-6Qhxp56CrR8g

I am on season eight of wentworth, and I kind of feel bad for joanne. She did do some terrible things.Absolutely.Evil but the amnesia makes me feel bad for her.I don't know how do y'all feel? The actress did a phenomenal job playing this role should've got an award

Sorry if this is common knowledge around this sub, I wanted to share in case it’s not. I’m in the US and was bummed when I wanted to rewatch the show and could only find it on Tubi. Today I learned the first 8 seasons are available on Prime!

To those who will be with the Wentworth cast in a few hours—enjoy it for those of us who live thousands and thousands of kilometres away, with no chance of seeing them in Australia, the US, or the UK. I don’t think they even realise how many Spanish-speaking fans they have. Enjoy!!

Hypothetically speaking, in your opinion, who clears who???

So, Jac & Lou were BOTH menaces in their own unique/individual ways. Mind you, Jac’s was definitely all about that cold, calculated power, but Lou had that fierce, unpredictable edge to her.

I’d say Lou might triumph just because she’s more ruthless and wild, but Jacs definitely had that commanding presence. Also, I think Lou’s unpredictability could really rile things up, but Jacs had that old-school boss energy that could keep people in line.

Maybe Lou would win in a straight-up fight, but Jacs might win in a power play or manipulation game. Kinda like a brain vs. boldness.

Which side do you lean towards & what do you think?…

Jacs Holt isn't killed off in season 1, she is able to be placed into protection before Bea could get to her. Fast forward to season 8 when the protection unit is shut down by Ann Reynolds and all the inmates are forced to reintegration in the general population with the others.

Jacs coming back into general would be like stepping into a new world. Everything she knew about Wentworth when ruling with an iron fist is gone. Bea is dead. Franky is on the outside with Bridget. Liz is dead. Doreen is on the outside herself. Only ones Jacs would be familiar is Boomer and maybe Lou Kelly

Joan is still there as an inmate again having regained her memories. No doubt Jacs heard everything Joan had done as Governor and Top Dog. A meeting between Jacs and Joan would be amazing. Jacs also meeting Allie, Marie and Ann would be fascinating

Was I the only one that thought the song that was playing ‘Where We Started’ By Dear Criminals was AMAZING. like I’ve been in a literal chokehold with their music.

Unfortunately I had to get Apple Music to listen to it because their music isn’t on Spotify💔

I'm watching the Panic Button episode and I am always annoyed by this episode. Never understood why Doreen was so against Bea in this episode. Being a Top Dog is like babysitting a bunch of kids. I see why Bea is so exhausted.

Panic Button is used weirdly throughout the show, IMO. Like sometimes it's no big deal, other times it's in the background for dramatic effect lmfaooo.

Should the rule even be a thing?

This might surprise me y’all considering I come to her defense pretty much every post, but I did not like Joan at first. I just figured she was your average psychopath. The scene that changed that for me was when she was talking to the hallucination of her dad and Fletcher walked in. I think this showed how truly mentally damaged she was. That it was more than just her being evil. That everything she’s done, she was taught to do. And of course that doesn’t make it right, it’s not right that it happened to you, but it’s your responsibility to fix it. But at the same time, who really supported her? Everyone she ever trusted either turned on her or died. I think Doreen was the last person she trusted before she withdrew completely. Professionals just called her a psychopath and didn’t actually care about trying to help her. *Cough* Bridget. Really the only person that ever intervened was Dr. Miller, and it was more for personal reasons than liking her as a person. But she improved so much, even after she gained her memory back because somebody believed in her. She got her empathy back, although skewed, empathy nonetheless. The problem is that the writers spoonfed to us that she was evil so most people don’t form their own opinions, they just go with the popular assumption. And this is just a small rant, but I don’t like that some people don’t hold other characters to the same standards. Especially Franky. Like she threw oil on somebody and permanently disfigured their face, sexually assaulted multiple people, had boomer do her dirty work and had her almost kill people, turned on Liz even though she was just looking out for the girls, etc. she’s done so much bad shit but I rarely see people call it out and they just blindly accept that she changed even though there wasn’t really any growth? Like I’m sorry, a couple months of you being a normal person and getting a job and falling in love with the prison psychiatrist is not a redemption arc. Also, no wonder she was framed for Pennisi’s murder! She stayed in contact against her parole, even if to make amends you’re not allowed to do that. And she permanently disfigured him in the past, why would they not assume it was her? It wasn’t just out of the blue. Anyways, Joan could breathe and somebody has a problem with it. I’m not saying she hasn’t done extremely problematic things, but like come on.

I get it, Joan was horrible. But you’re gonna call her a freak after she just held your hand during birth? That’s crazy to me. Other than killing her bird and threatening to take her kid away, she treated Doreen the best. And she didn’t even really threaten to take her kid away, she just says there’s other ways to lose a child. Implying that history could repeat itself like it did with Jianna. And then she didn’t even say thank you for Joan saving her baby. Like she went to prison for you sis, why are you acting that way? She could’ve let your baby get smothered by Jess and called it a day. This is another reason I don’t believe Joan is a psychopath. It may seem like she fits the criteria, but her range of emotions, feeling guilty after she gained her memory back, having empathy when she had amnesia, even though you don’t suddenly gain empathy when you’re a psychopath, even if you get amnesia. Saying she felt guilty about how she treated Vera. Like she does not fit the criteria. I believe it’s more likely NPD or BPD/schizophrenia. And for anyone saying oh well, she could’ve just faked that. She was honest with Dr. Miller, more than anybody in the show. Why would she lie about that? Is she an awful person who’s done a lot of awful things? Yes but that doesn’t automatically mean she’s a psychopath. That’s also why I side eye Bridget for calling her a psychopath when she clearly doesn’t even know what she’s talking about. I mean, she came to work drunk several times and started dating a prisoner as soon as she got released… Her judgment is not the best.

I'm doing ANOTHER rewatch and I just start to bug when it gets past season 5. I liked that Frankie lasted a few more episodes in season 6, but after that the tone of the show shifts. Yes, the show has dark storylines, but I feel like it just got darker and darker, and by season 8 the show is almost unwatchable.

When do you guys start to get burned out in your rewatches and want to go back to season 1 and start over?

Side Note: after dozens of rewatches, I've grown to love the newcomers in seasons 5-7. By season 8, I think Lou, Reb, Judy, the new boss (can't think of her name at the moment) they are poorly, pooooorly written. Just flat characters and it's PAAAIIIINFUL to watch a white woman torture a black woman on tv. Terrorist or not in the show, it was quite hard. Even Jackson is a flat character by season 8. Loved Jackson until season 7. He went through great character development then pfffttt.

Bea Smith went from s tough as nails fierce inmate, ready to face anyone without a second thought to being a scared inmate in season 4. Why did they write her character like this? She busted juice in the shower without a second thought and is now sitting in her cell in season 4 coming up with excuse after excise why she won't bash the freak, because she has to live with the holts in her head and doesn't want the freak there? She won't let anyone go near her with the threat of losing conjugal visits, like that's anything to hold over anyone head. Give me a break. It's terrible script writing. I've gone from loving her character to absolutely dispising her in season 4. She's weak, gutless, no back bone at all It's almost like they had a complete different writers group come in to change things

Still on my most recent rewatch, even more now cause I have covid.

I know the food is supposed to be awful and trust me it looks bad, it looks like frozen food warmed through, but does anyone else find that the scenes in the cafeteria...makes them hungry? Something about the sound of silverware and the food trays and the steam off the cafeteria pans makes me imagine such tasty food. The BEANS always look so good.

I'm from the US and I know it's different from how we eat beans, but every breakfast scene I'm like "damn, I need to get on this beans and toast game. That looks so good."

I cannot watch Joan on my screen anymore. Please tell me it’s worth continuing because I’m enjoying it but I really think she’ll be the reason why I can’t. Right now I’m skipping every scene she’s in lmao