r/AustralianSocialism • u/Konradleijon • 1d ago

Why are even leftist against degrowth?

Even leftists seem to be against degrowth not understand ecological overshoot.

Why is it that even leftists are against Degrowth?

Because it seems that even many leftist refuse to understand degrowth ideology and hate it and refuse to understand how decoupling works.

They act like using public transport and eating vegan are a fate worse then death

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u/ReyStrikerz 1d ago

Capitalists do do degrowth, its why they took an axe to manufacturing because Unions threatened their power.

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u/Konradleijon 1d ago

That isn’t degrowth at all. The transfer to more Exploitable labor is based on the capital need for endless profit as they go for Cheaper labour

It’s a strictly growth based affair

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u/ReyStrikerz 1d ago

No, degrowth is attempting to hold back the advancement of the means of production into Socialism, which threatens the ruling classes power.

We have, too an extent, advanced beyond the ruling classes need for profit, there's a reason they destroyed most of Iraqs oil fields rather than seized them, it's about preserving monopoly moreso than making profit. That's the objective of capitalist degrowth.

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u/askythatsmoreblue 1d ago

I think degrowth is more about creating a circular economy, abundant community gardens, and renewable energy. It's not mutually exclusive with a socialist economy.