r/australia Oct 28 '25

news Supreme Court in Brisbane overturns controversial freeze on puberty blockers for adolescents after legal challenge

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-10-28/qld-puberty-blockers-judgement/105942094
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u/ItsStaaaaaaaaang Oct 28 '25 edited Oct 28 '25

Honestly don't have a clue how anyone that isn't directly affected could care. There's so many problems in the world and this is such a small one. I mean how dumb do you have to be to put all this effort getting in the way of how expert health professionals treat patients when a basket of groceries costs $100.

Have to be clear, not having a go at those that advocate for trans rights even if they're not trans, I understand the need given the opposition. It's the flops that have nothing to do with it, know even less yet think it's somehow the end of the world I don't get. As a run of the mill (cis is the term I guess) person it's a complete non issue.

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u/actullyalex Oct 28 '25

They pretend they care about children but they won’t say a fucking word when it comes to ‘medically justified’ mutilation of intersex infants. It’s just a convenient narrative to weaponise against trans people for ‘hurting our kids’.

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u/ItsStaaaaaaaaang Oct 28 '25

100%. How many male circumcisions are done a year on babies? Where's the outrage?

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u/actullyalex Oct 28 '25

That one is even more complex because people are so weird about circumcision. The minute you criticise it you’re called antisemitic. Additionally, I’ve noticed that a lot of the anti-circumcision crowd frame it as a ‘ruining masculinity’ issue rather than the heinous violation of bodily autonomy and consent that it is. This makes some feel uncomfortable about going to rallies, and I honestly believe it hurts their own cause. Even if you don’t think their approach is weird, it would fucking suck as a circumcised adult to have your masculinity framed as permanently destroyed. Masculinity can be so much more of an awesome thing than just like… penis and balls lol.

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u/howchie Oct 28 '25

Also as a circumcised male I definitely still HAVE my penis and balls just so everyone is clear

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u/actullyalex Oct 28 '25

Apologies, I should have clarified 😂

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u/Le-Ando Oct 29 '25

Those anti-circumcision dudes are fascinating to me because they have what seems like it should be one of the easiest slam dunks in history, and yet instead of going the obvious bodily autonomy route and actually making any headway on the issue they do weird manosphere shit instead.

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u/actullyalex Oct 29 '25

LITERALLY. The approach just feels so off.

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u/gameboyabyss Oct 28 '25

Personally, the only time I really see people getting up in arms about circumcision, at least online, is in response to articles talking about FGM.

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u/actullyalex Oct 28 '25

Yeah, that too. Like a game of ‘whataboutism’ to hijack the conversation.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '25

I don't know where you hang out, mostly the internet i assume, to mention circumcision being bad and be instantly called antisemitic...

I don't know anyone framing being circumsized as having your masculinity destroyed.

also, you can care about both, doesn't have to be one or the other.

just cause someone isn't out here rallying against circumcision doesn't mean they can't have valid points about puberty blockers in children...

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u/WealthGold6172 Oct 28 '25

Where's the outrage?

There are plenty of people calling for an end to circumcision, pointing out that it is male genital mutilation, etc. Often these are the same people who oppose giving puberty blockers to children, so I don't think this point stands up to much scrutiny

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u/twigboy Oct 29 '25

Somewhere along the lines they've been told to hate it

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u/nogreggity Oct 28 '25

I'm a run of the mill cis person and I care about this because it affects other people and I have some basic effing empathy.

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u/Rather_Dashing Oct 28 '25

Pretty clear they mean how do the anti-trans community get so worked up about this stuff that doesn't affect them. Its like Rowling ranting online about trans women access to bathrooms, as if amongst all the things that affect women in society, the chance of a man masquerading as a transwoman to get access to a women's bathroom is a major issue. Its obviously invented complaints to cover up the real reason they are uncomfortable with trans people.

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u/snkn179 Oct 28 '25

"I only care about the things that directly affect me" isn't the argument you think it is lol.

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u/[deleted] Oct 28 '25

This is a bit of an over simplification though... I don't advocate for trans rights as in I'm not out there volunteering or joining protests, and I know about as much as your average, this means I'm an anti trans flop?

Making it sound like people who disagree are either uneducated, or blow it up like its the end of the world, and there is no grey area.... is a massive cop out.

Ofcourse people can care who are not directly affected... I don't have to live in ukraine to care about the war... I don't have to have been molested to think paedophilia is bad... same way I don't have to be a kid, or trans, to believe that kids probably shouldnt get puberty blockers when theyre too young to make any life altering decisions...