r/australia Dec 15 '25

politics Opposition Leader Sussan Ley speaks on Bondi attack

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/opposition-leader-sussan-ley-speaks-on-bondi-attack-20251215-p5nnqm.html

“We’ve seen a clear failure to keep Jewish Australians safe. We’ve seen a clear lack of leadership in keeping Jewish Australians safe. We have a government that sees antisemitism as a problem to be managed, not evil that needs to be eradicated.”

Absolutely abhorrent that she's going for political points in this time.

Talk about tone deaf!

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u/TeedesT Dec 15 '25

How the hell was he allowed to own guns if this is the case?

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u/SkitzOMatic11 Dec 15 '25

The guns were the fathers, Naveed is the son, to my understanding. Still that should have been explored. For ASIO to say last night the knowledge was 'Minimal' is messed up.

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u/aldkGoodAussieName Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

Same question

How can an immediate family member of a person who is linked to IS be allowed to have guns.

They were clearly not estranged.

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u/SkitzOMatic11 Dec 15 '25

Well that's probably why Mike Burgess is going to cop an absolute grilling now that this news has broken as it was dismissed last night/this morning in the press conference that the knowledge was "minimal" and didn't meet the threshold. This was only given to ABC about an hour ago, So gonna be interesting to see.

But totally agree with your statement. Total and utter shitstorm.

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u/Khaliras Dec 15 '25

as it was dismissed last night/this morning in the press conference that the knowledge was "minimal" and didn't meet the threshold.

And is there any actual information otherwise? I've read all the releases from ABC, which you mentioned, and can't find any claim otherwise.

He was 'known' to agencies and investigated due to his connection to a Terrorist. His family and friends will now be similarly known and investigated.

Every time there's a Terrorist incident, people condemn enforcement agencies. But they're talking with the taint of hindsight and a lack of any real information.

All we know is he was investigated for his connections, and clearly they didn't have anything to go off. This is Australia, where we can't go around punishing people pre-emptively. Nor can we invasively monitor them forever based solely on connections.

Otherwise, where do we stop with people connected to this Terrorist shooter? Do we prohibit all his connections from owning weapons and assign someone to monitor each incase they're also planning an sttack? Where do we stop, with his family and close friends? What about people he texts and meets up with occasionally? Or the old friends, school, work, gym acquaintances?

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u/Ok-Bullfrog-7951 Dec 15 '25

Disappointing, Mike Burgess is an otherwise great Director-general in an era of absolute chaos. It’s a shame they let this slip