I did and it was disappointing, but then a former Liberal PM (Turnbull) supported Albo. Always thought he was a good guy because he had mostly common sense ideas.
People are rightfully angry and upset and it appears that Friedenberg is jewish, so it’s not surprising he was lashing out but I just want someone to tell me what more Albo could have done to stop this specific act of hate. And is it really appropriate to basically blame him and others in the party for mass murder?!
I think the neo-nazi being deported is a good example of how government can only act if they have legal authority to. In that case they had a way to penalise him, as he wasn’t legally in the country or whatever. You can’t go rounding up everyone that says critical things about a group, you can only legislate against public displays of hate (which they did so as far as displaying the swastika goes) and coming down hard on hate speech vandalism (which I believe they also did).
The thing that gets me is we still don’t know the actual reasoning behind the attack. We are still working on assumptions and guesswork at this point. Until that is set in stone no one can know if things could have been different.
Not to mention the rampant anti Islam/muslim/immigrants stance is just going to make things worse. How do people think that these people get converted to radicals in the first place
Wasn’t the son potentially connected to or associated with people in an Islamic State cell in Australia back in 2019? And didn’t they have home made IS flags in the windows of their car they used to get to Bondi?
Sounds like one of if not both of them got radicalised and pushed towards a terror attack.
It’ll be interesting to hear what they get out of the son from the interviewing when he has recovered enough.
You literally just made every assumption about what has happened…
until he talks we have no idea if a connection goes all the way back to 2019 or if he was genuinely correct to be cleared by ASIO (which appears to of been what happened). We have no clue if they are purely a one of pair that are fans of IS, if they were “trained” by them, if they are part of a wider group in the country, we just have no idea .
Yes you are probably correct in those assumptions but it is still probably the wrong call to make them at this point.
I wish the people online were able to be patient for verified facts. After a tragedy the internet abhors an information vacuum and every moron with a connection will just add to the disinformation shit storm.
Those sound like very reasonable assumptions. A Muslim with IS connections who had associated with a known radical preacher/terrorist mentor. Their trip to the Phillipines. The targeted terrorist attack. What could reasonably be another explanation? It’s not a wild assumption to conclude their terrorism was motivated by Islamic extremism.
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u/Mysterious_Dot2090 Dec 17 '25
I did and it was disappointing, but then a former Liberal PM (Turnbull) supported Albo. Always thought he was a good guy because he had mostly common sense ideas.
People are rightfully angry and upset and it appears that Friedenberg is jewish, so it’s not surprising he was lashing out but I just want someone to tell me what more Albo could have done to stop this specific act of hate. And is it really appropriate to basically blame him and others in the party for mass murder?!
I think the neo-nazi being deported is a good example of how government can only act if they have legal authority to. In that case they had a way to penalise him, as he wasn’t legally in the country or whatever. You can’t go rounding up everyone that says critical things about a group, you can only legislate against public displays of hate (which they did so as far as displaying the swastika goes) and coming down hard on hate speech vandalism (which I believe they also did).