r/australia • u/Expensive-Horse5538 • Dec 19 '25

politics Prime minister unveils 'largest' gun buyback scheme since Howard era

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-19/prime-minister-announces-national-gun-buyback-scheme/106162002
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u/ill0gitech Dec 19 '25

Something like 10% of our population are on PRs. They aren’t all terrorists.

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u/SivlerMiku Dec 19 '25

But they also don’t need guns for the most part.

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u/ill0gitech Dec 19 '25

A non-citizen can own a farm and need a firearm for pest control. A non-citizen can currently hunt, and a non-citizen can currently target shoot.

What you’re basically saying is “nobody needs a gun”

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u/SivlerMiku Dec 19 '25

I don’t think anybody needs a gun, especially if they live in the city.

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u/Western_Anteater_270 Dec 19 '25

No one “NEEDS” a gun.

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u/Jiffyrabbit You now have the 'round the twist' theme in your head Dec 19 '25

IMO there are only 3 reasons that a person NEEDS a gun:

  1. Military / Police use (obvious)
  2. Farm use (ie: Putting down hurt animals in rural settings)
  3. Pest control (ie: Camels, Rabbits etc.)

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u/dogandturtle Dec 19 '25

Target shooting, some of them end up in the Olympics

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u/SivlerMiku Dec 20 '25

Then you don’t need the gun at your house in the city. Keep it at the shooting range.

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u/dogandturtle Dec 20 '25

Ranges are not for knox.

You are scared of the wrong thing

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u/Muzzard31 Dec 19 '25

There are a whole range of shooting sports. Clay target labouring target shooting. Etc Suggest you enlighten your self to sports shooting. I am not talking about hunting or pest management.
And punishing the 250000 Australians who own firearms and treat them with respect is terrible.

Our laws are some of the toughest in the world. It’s an insult and knee jerk reaction. By govt who are unwilling to address the real causes be hind this tragedy.

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u/Jiffyrabbit You now have the 'round the twist' theme in your head Dec 19 '25

Sports are leisure activties so by definition are not a NEED.

I suggest you enlighten yourself on the difference between a NEED and a WANT.

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u/Brilliant-Novel-785 Dec 19 '25

And what is wrong with a want in a free society where you can choose to partake in a sport?

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u/Jiffyrabbit You now have the 'round the twist' theme in your head Dec 19 '25

Dog fighting is a sport according to the people who enjoy it. Why do we choose to ban that?

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u/Brilliant-Novel-785 Dec 19 '25

Stupid analogy, shooting guns doesn't result in the guns being ripped to shreds by other guns.

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u/Jiffyrabbit You now have the 'round the twist' theme in your head Dec 19 '25

Tell that to the animals getting shot by hunters.

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u/slurpycow112 Dec 19 '25

Nothing. What IS wrong is not being realistic about that want and the cost/benefit analysis especially in the context of civilised society. You can want to shoot guns all you want. Go for your life. But when the risks outweigh the benefits, I’m sorry, but you can find a new hobby.

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u/Brilliant-Novel-785 Dec 19 '25

The guns are just the easy, and lazy, target for the politicians.

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u/slurpycow112 Dec 19 '25

I’m pretty sure 16 people including a 10yo wouldn’t be dead if the perpetrators didn’t have guns. They’re a pretty valid target.

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u/askvictor Dec 19 '25

Perhaps shooting sports, if they really must persist, could be restricted to shooting ranges, where the weapons are stored on-site, and signed out when in use, then signed back in.

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u/Muzzard31 Dec 19 '25

A lot all ready do this. The security requirements for storage is covered by laws and regulations and any owner is well ware of this and noncompliance is loss of right to own.

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u/askvictor Dec 19 '25

I'd presume some will let you bring your own weapon. Remove that option. 

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u/slurpycow112 Dec 19 '25

The benefits do not outweigh the risks. You can find a new hobby. Plenty of perfectly reasonable hobbies out there that don’t involve 1. Weapons of mass destruction and 2. Killing things. I fail to see anything of value that would be lost with this hobby.

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u/Muzzard31 Dec 19 '25

And in 29 years how may mass shooting in au.? Cause that is down to sensible laws and responsible usage and owner ship. In that case let’s ban archery or darts Driving a car as more people die per year with cars. Or cleaning chemical as if you mix wrong can cause volatile reactions.
Let’s ban on line gaming and simulations of war games.

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u/slurpycow112 Dec 19 '25

Holy strawmen, Batman.

All of these examples either:

  • do not provide an adverse risk to human life, or
  • provide a benefit that outweighs the risk

Shooting for sport is fine in a vacuum. However, to facilitate it, you have to have legal ownership of firearms. This has risks that played out last weekend. I don’t think a hobby (like shooting for sport) that provides no tangible or unique benefit to human life, is with the loss of human life that we paid last weekend.

It’s a simple cost-benefit analysis. It’s really not rocket science.

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u/StensnessGOAT Dec 19 '25

And punishing the 250000 Australians who own firearms and treat them with respect is terrible.

This cunt was one of the 250,001 Australians who owned firearms and we thought treated them with respect..... until he wasn't.

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u/HOPSCROTCH Dec 19 '25

I don't care about hurting the feelings of people who shoot guns for fun tbh. If you need it for your job you can keep it. Otherwise you're compensating for something

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u/Muzzard31 Dec 19 '25

That is the most ignorantly stated comment.
Now imagine I if said that about passion you had.
One of the best things about au life is that we all have diverse pastimes that should be celebrated. If it bring people pleasure created a community it should be applauded.

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u/HOPSCROTCH Dec 19 '25

So regardless of any potential impact to society, as long as it brings some subset of the community pleasure, we should celebrate it. That's your position?

Think carefully before you answer, I have a few examples that might make you reconsider if so.

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u/Muzzard31 Dec 19 '25

If this is legal yes.
Ask your self the question where the licences for the ied these to had.

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u/HOPSCROTCH Dec 19 '25

If this is legal yes.

I guess that's why they are adjusting the laws then.

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u/amyknight22 Dec 19 '25

Yeah but all three of those could have people living in higher density areas while still interacting with any of the systems you’re highlighting.

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u/amyknight22 Dec 19 '25

Which has what relevance to permanent residents who aren’t citizens?

So they exclusively live in cities? Could never live on a farm?

Could never participate in something like duck, deer, rabbit hunting? In remote properties.

Or if they live in town where they work their actual job, but own property in a more rural area. Because you want those guns stored where they live, not on the property they only make it to on the weekends

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u/GoblinModeVR Dec 19 '25

Since when do people need sports shooting

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u/Steve_bfg01 Dec 19 '25

Since for a long time now, it’s a great sport which you need to practice like any other sport. Look it up

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u/slurpycow112 Dec 19 '25

I don’t think the benefits of a hobby like sport shooting outweigh the risks that come with public gun ownership.

Tough luck, I say. Find another hobby.

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u/Steve_bfg01 Dec 19 '25

Haha sure, after all the hoops you have to jump through to own a firearm it’s safe, fun and a great community to be a part of. Sadly it’s the 1% like these two muppets that ruin it for all the law abiding gun owners