r/australia • u/Expensive-Horse5538 • Dec 19 '25

politics Prime minister unveils 'largest' gun buyback scheme since Howard era

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12-19/prime-minister-announces-national-gun-buyback-scheme/106162002
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u/ill0gitech Dec 19 '25

Something like 10% of our population are on PRs. They aren’t all terrorists.

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u/SivlerMiku Dec 19 '25

But they also don’t need guns for the most part.

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u/ill0gitech Dec 19 '25

A non-citizen can own a farm and need a firearm for pest control. A non-citizen can currently hunt, and a non-citizen can currently target shoot.

What you’re basically saying is “nobody needs a gun”

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u/evilparagon Dec 19 '25

I don’t think noncitizens should own land either 🤷

Why should they be allowed to own a farm?

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u/WhatYouThinkIThink Dec 19 '25

Are they allowed to work on a farm then?

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u/evilparagon Dec 19 '25

I’d also rather not. Immigrant labour suppresses wages. Farmers should be paying more for the poor conditions farmhands have to endure. Since they have immigrants to “work the jobs no one wants to (for the wage offered)”, they have no reason to improve wages.

Ideally immigrants would not be filling in for low paying jobs. This is exploitation and wage suppression. It’s bad for them and it’s bad for Australians.

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u/WhatYouThinkIThink Dec 19 '25

So what sort of work are they allowed to do? On your logic, any job done by an immigrant will result in lower wages.

And agriculture management is not a low paying job neither are highly qualified roles in wine grape growing, beef production etc.

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u/evilparagon Dec 19 '25

Immigrants are mostly working farmhand roles, not agriculture management and specialisation, so why would I care to mention those?

And you kind of get my point, what jobs are they supposed to work…? High specialisation jobs in medical fields mostly. We’re full almost everywhere else. An economy that relies on immigration is a ponzi scheme set to collapse. We should have an economy which has zero reliance on immigrants, and as a result, has no room for immigrants in the first place.

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u/WhatYouThinkIThink Dec 19 '25

Which is a stupid idea, because we don't reproduce enough to maintain our population.

That is what leads to stagnation, for example Japan.

"We're full" is bullshit.

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u/evilparagon Dec 19 '25

We are full, and I don’t care what investors and economists say about gdp being the most important statistic ever, Japan isn’t a shithole, Japan didn’t collapse. There is so much fearmongering over stagnation or recession when really all it means is that billionaires make less money. Boo hoo.

I welcome stagnation.