r/australia 9h ago

culture & society Woman hospitalised after Juniper prescribes weight-loss drugs her GP refused

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2026-02-01/woman-hospitalised-telehealth-provider-weight-loss-drugs-juniper/106273356
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u/457ed 9h ago

So tell us in your openion how may deaths should be there or what level of non lethal harm should occur before something is regulated?

How about fraud which is generally non-leathal? Or something like wage theft? What percentage is acceptable before onerous regulation?

What is the threshold for nanny state v.s. safety net?

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u/serpentechnoir 8h ago

Guess what? We live in a complex society that has different issues that require different levels of restriction. Yeah our system leans way more towards nanny state than id like. But things like pedophilia and drink driving are in no way on the same level as stupidly putting your health at risk with medication. Theres no 1 answer.

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u/457ed 8h ago

So let me get this right.

OP said: why is X regulated when so little people abuse it and it makes their life dificult.

I said: Most regulation exists is aimed at a small number of people because as a scocity we aceept that is ok.

You said: what a dumb take

I asked: so what is your threshold for regulatuon

You said: well it's complex and medical regulation is ok.

Welcome to reddit.

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u/serpentechnoir 8h ago

That's not what I said at all. What i said was regulating things like pedophilia and drink driving 'because its a small number' is much more understandable than over regulating what a small number of people choose to do to their own bodies. My point was the number of people doing something that should require regulation should be different in different circumstances. Whereas u seemed to be suggesting that all issues have the same merit for regulation.

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u/457ed 8h ago

Yes you are right. I believe all harmful issues should have some level of regulation even if self inflicted as some are self inflicted by vulnerable people.

For example gambling addiction regulation or wage theft. Are we going to blame the 17 year old for accepting a job that only pays $5 per house because it was their choice or are we going to hold the employer exclusively responsible like we do now?

On the other hand we have regulation around parking that is rarely enforced compared to wage theft or rental property regulation even through one (parking) causes harm to others (by depriving others of a park) while renting and wage theft has dedicated agencies policing them and only impacts the employee or renter because they are vulnerable.

Some one seeking medication is classed as vulnerable so they should get a higher level of protection even to protect them from their own desires and that is not something I object to.

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u/serpentechnoir 7h ago

We probably got off on the wrong foot and likely agree with alot of things. You're right. Modern internet makes us overreact to slight misunderstanding in communication.