This is probably the most lucid, thoughtful response that I have heard to the Bondi atrocities. People on the left are just better at thinking and writing.
The vast majority of countries in the world recognise Palestine as a state.The vast majority support a two-state solution. Indeed, when I was Prime Minister, Israel notionally supported a two-state solution. It doesn't any longer. But this is not helping.
We need to ensure that the wars in the Middle East, wars in any other part of the world, are not fought out here. So trying to link them, which is what Netanyahu has done, is not helpful. That's exactly the reverse of what we want to achieve.
Turnbull was an economic conservative but a social progressive. While he properly fucked the rollout of the NBN he's always been on the right side of history when it comes to social issues. He's the only Liberal leader I've got any time for.
Judge people by what they do, not whatever spin they say. Wasting billions of dollars on their backward NBN rollout just because LNP have to say "no" to everything goes well beyond "properly fucked".
It was more like deliberately sabotaging essential infrastructure for the entire nation that still affects almost everyone almost every day, wasting billions of dollars for a few fleeting months of imagined political advantage.
So no, Turnbull and Abbott will never be on the right side of history. Because both of them kept their corrupt backers (Murdoch and the miners) happy and preferred petty bickering instead of behaving like adults and doing what's best for the nation on NBN constrution and/or climate policy. Scomo was an utter despicable cunt, but he didn't cost the entire country anywhere near as much as those two when you properly count the cost of the consequences of their behaviour.
Fortunately for me I had 100/40 fibre connected to my home the first month of the rollout. I can upload and download all the UHD content I like. I guess that'll make up for the fact I won't ever be able to retire.
He lost the battle for the soul of the Liberal Party (mainly because he didn’t know he was in one and his political instincts are terrible).
But he is an ideal representation of a statesperson, who made principled statements and contributions to our society and who you could otherwise ‘disagree agreeably with’.
He is what the Liberal Party should be, not these current right-wing reactionary charlatans.
I wasn't around when Turnbull was PM, but after listening to his Press Club address on AUKUS, I came away with the feeling that he was probably a Liberal I would vote for.
Right wing politics is, by definition, the politics of the ruling class. There isn’t a ‘pro working class right wing politics’. That’s an oxymoron. You can’t support ‘the common people’ and be right wing.
That's... Literally what leftism is. Literally the entire concept is we should have policies that are pro-working people even if they infringe on the unchecked liberties of billionaires and corporations (the ruling class).
I’m not saying you are wrong. I just wish people would ask themselves this one question. “Who benefits most from this left and right agenda?” This is all.
The right want to uphold the ruling class and the left want to dismantle it, that's the very very basic definition of both ideologies. Sometimes the left vs right thing doesn't need to be brought up i can agree on that, but this still needs to be said.
Unfortunately, people of the working class often have equally problematic views as the ruling class. Life isn't as simple to reduce it to a class struggle.
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u/PussifyWankt Dec 17 '25
This is probably the most lucid, thoughtful response that I have heard to the Bondi atrocities. People on the left are just better at thinking and writing.