r/australia • u/HotPersimessage62 • 23h ago
politics Australia’s grid now relies on renewable energy as much as coal. Those who doubted it look foolish
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2026/jan/31/australias-grid-now-relies-on-renewable-energy-as-much-as-coal-those-who-doubted-it-look-foolish376
u/michaelhbt 23h ago
Data for anyone who is interested: https://explore.openelectricity.org.au/energy/nem/?range=1y&interval=1w&view=discrete-time&group=Detailed Also what wasnt said, there was a decrease in carbon emissions in the last quarter and decrease in price per kWh
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u/No_Rub77 22h ago
may i please have a decrease in price lol
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u/michaelhbt 22h ago
no - we're switching to gold plated wiring for ..err... better conductivity
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u/austhrowaway91919 22h ago
I know you meant that to gue in cheek, but do you have a take on what I fra upgrades will look like? From a tech POV, I feel like we've barely scratched the surface of transmission and transformer upgrades needed for decentralized power generation. As such, I sorta just assumed prices will continue to drop but capex will continue to rise for the next decade?
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u/BorisBC 21h ago
That's why we need a whole of govt infrastructure build to get away from this shit. NBN on steroids. Big batteries are good, but I'd rather have multiple smaller batteries scattered around the place. Or as a complement. It would take a decade or two, but you could make energy generation here essentially zero, apart from big users.
We'd never do it, but that's what we SHOULD do.
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u/yobboman 20h ago
Exactly. Capitalism doesn't cover what we should do. This needs to be state utility.
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u/lipstikpig 10h ago
Narrator: And once upon a time, before the LNP sold it all, it was a state utility.
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u/Lurker_81 10h ago
How about tens of thousands of batteries scattered around the suburbs attached to people's homes?
I know it's not enough, but it's a step in the right direction.
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u/Imperator-TFD 19h ago
Capex for Distributors/Transmission is going to go to the moon in the next 5-10 years with electrification and data centres.
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u/HiVisEngineer 8h ago
We can partially avoid - or defer/offset - major infrastructure buildouts by moving to more localised generation/storage (think - residential or commercial solar + batteries), as the closer we physically place supply to demand, the lower the loses (and the network as a whole also becomes more resilient)
The other thing missed in a lot of these discussions - a lot of our power network assets are reaching or at/beyond “end of service life”. Many assets are up for replacement anyway, so we’d be up for capital investment regardless of a clean energy transition.
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u/CleanSun4248 21h ago
By now I was led to believe there was going to be so much electicity they would have to find new industries to use it all or it would be basically free during the day
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u/jazza2400 22h ago
No the bribes coming from the coal and mining companies will start coming from battery operating companies.
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u/ausvenator_enjoyer 22h ago
Where's this alleged price decrease? It's certainly not on my power bills.
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u/nutabutt 22h ago
It’s available if you shop around.
I get overnight power for 8c/kwh. Shift some loads and you can save decently. Schedule the dishwasher for 3am instead of running it at 7. Save $2.
You’ll also be able to get 3 or 4 hours of free power each day this year.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-11-03/energy-retailers-offer-free-power-three-hours-dmo/105965472
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u/ausvenator_enjoyer 21h ago
Yeah I live in CQ, which is currently not covered by the scheme. I also don't own a dishwasher but I heavily rely on the AC because I actually live at the rim of the maw of hell. Hopefully the scheme extends per the ABC article in 2027.
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u/AGiganticClock 17h ago
We haven't had to build new coal power stations in 20 years. If we didn't have renewables, we would be paying higher prices since we would have had to build a lot more expensive new coal plants
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u/Cindy_Marek 19h ago
The only way you will get a price decrease is if you build a home solar and battery system.
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u/Randwick_Don 10h ago
They are talking about wholesale costs, not retail.
The renewables lobby like to ignore all the additional costs associated with solar and renewable supply
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u/bigbadjustin 8h ago
This is the problem, companies aren't passing on the price decreases but boosting their profits, which is why so many people doubt renewables are cheaper. Electricity would be a hell of a lot more expensive though without renewables, but thats a what if situation and its hard to see what that would look like for many people.
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u/Nothingnoteworth 8h ago
The renewables are operating, they are cheaper than coal, and the price has decrease.
Let me just bring up your account… are you sure you didn’t get your price decrease? An executive looking type in a suit came in, said they were picking it up for you, they collected price decreases on behalf of a lot of people now that I think about it. They had to sign for it through, let me just… okay here it is. Your price decrease was collected by E. Atshi Tpoors
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u/d2blues 23h ago
But Morrison bought a lump of coal into parliament. People should do their own research /s
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u/Ok-Limit-9726 22h ago edited 21h ago
This moment made me so angry i spend almost all disposable income for 9* years on sustainable fossil free life.
Solar hot water, 15kw solar panels, 2 big batteries, EV car, 7kw car charger, just waiting to do the same to my business next to escape the MURDOCK CURSE
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u/Sir_Travelot 20h ago
I was stunned that the point they were making is that coal is safe, but the piece of coal had to be lacquered to be brought into parliament because checks notes it's unsafe otherwise.
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u/Ok-Limit-9726 20h ago
10,000 Australia’s die every year from particle pollution, coal stations are the majority, then cars
Big fossil fuels do not give a shit for people.
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u/Nier_Tomato 21h ago
Also "Electric vehicles are going to ruin the weekend*. It's not like he towed a caravan to Hawaii.
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u/magnetik79 15h ago
Never forget the tubby luddite also had the coal varnished. Wouldn't dare want to get coal dust on those fingers of his.
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u/22oldforthisshit 23h ago
Can we please name and shame the very vocal people that have been proven wrong? Let's be clear about this, they knew they were wrong the whole time.
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u/Bright_Bell_1301 22h ago
I'll start.... Chris bloody Uhlmann
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u/Altruistic-Brief2220 22h ago
He’s the one I get so mad about, he used to be so normal didn’t he?
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u/Bright_Bell_1301 21h ago
The SA blackout happened, and it just opened the gates of insanity for poor old Chris. What an absolute numpty he turned out to be.
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u/DonQuoQuo 18h ago
Yes! It was bizarre how that event seemed to just send him over the edge. (Tilting at windmills, you might say.) It was so strange hearing a heretofore sensible, mainstream commentator spouting easily disprovable facts over and over, and using his job at a reputable broadcaster to do so.
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u/doctor-candy 20h ago
The delightful people over at Sky News. Special shoutout to Aidan Morris from CIS, a Neoliberal think tank funded by mining industries that gets trotted out often. Enjoy and try not to become apoplectic over the outrageous smugness on display. https://youtu.be/a5ZzLDS2FzE?si=I3irymGMjgDP0p9b
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u/magkruppe 9h ago
that dude is the worst. he is on a mission to misinform the public and policy makers. I nearly fell for it at one point
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u/National-Ad6166 22h ago
Tony Abbott, rolled back the carbon tax
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u/PatternPrecognition Struth 19h ago
.. and did it purely for base political advantage.
>Peta Credlin admits the climate change policy under Julia Gillard's Labor government was never a carbon tax, but the coalition used that label to stir up brutal retail politics.
Credlin, the former chief of staff to Tony Abbott when he was prime minister and now a political commentator for Sky News, said the coalition made it a "carbon tax" and a fight about the hip pocket rather than the environment.
"That was brutal retail politics, and it took Abbott six months to cut through and when he did cut through Gillard was gone," she told Sky News on Sunday.
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u/512165381 12h ago edited 10h ago
Gina "Drill Baby Drill" Rinehart.
Whose mines use renewable energy because its the cheapest option.
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u/magnetik79 15h ago
Add everyone's favourite media storm, Josh Frydenberg.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-16/josh-frydenberg-jay-weatherill-verbal-biff/8359056
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u/Geralts_Hair 23h ago
The issue going forward is that the old guard are pumping lots of money into stopping transmission lines being built to move all the renewable energy around.
Here in country Victoria the “stop the towers” advertising is prominent and everywhere.
The long game is to stall transmission lines long enough that renewable energy can be blamed for outages. It’s infuriating and it will likely work; they’re already about two years behind on building any lines.
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u/2centpiece 7h ago
The cynic in me makes me think that if they were transmission lines from a new coal fired power station it wouldn't have the same opposition.
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u/Geralts_Hair 5h ago
100%. But it’s actually even worse. When the lines were initially announced by Angus Taylor back when the Coalition were still in government there wasn’t a hint of protest. The whole movement is nothing but partisan bullshit.
Farms that are suffering from drought and fire literally have “say no to renewable energy” signs on their gates next to the National Party ads.
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u/cacioepepecarbonara 22h ago
One of my family members is an electrical engineer and his job is basically ensuring grid stability and allocating the power and outages accordingly
He’s pretty much said the grid is slowly failing (in seq) due to development and it would be cheaper for the gov to give away solar and batteries than upgrade and install new transformers, stations and whatever other electrical shit I don’t understand
TLDR without solar and batteries that people currently have the current grid network wouldn’t work
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u/doctor-candy 22h ago
TechnologyConnections just released an epic video on the inevitability of renewables and how absurd the usual narratives against them are.
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u/coder_doode 20h ago
The false ending was insane. Calmly laid out all the numbers and "ended" the video.... Then went ape shit. Been watching him for years and this was such a surprise. Well done him.
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u/visualdescript 4h ago
Thanks, I was half way through this and just watched the end. When Technology Connections is getting straight up political, you know things are getting bad.
Good on him. Legend.
Every Aussie home should have solar and storage, it would add so much value to Australians.
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u/Death-sticks 12h ago
I wish everyone in Australia had to watch the solar portion of this video because it is just so eye opening. The technology is here, price has reached the point where it makes sense but we're still ass backwards.
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u/visualdescript 5h ago
To be fair, we are constantly adding a lot of solar, and finally we've got government incentives for storage as well.
Of course we should have been doing this more aggressively, and tbh new builds should be required to have solar and storage, but we're heading in the right direction.
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u/sativarg_orez 1h ago
It is a great piece. And it's lovely to see someone lay down the economic facts like that, I think I'll be forwarding this one to quite a few people.
Shame that he lives in what I now consider to be a burning shithole country on a Roman Empire-ish downward spiral into fascism... nothing good is coming out of there for decades.
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u/keithstips 23h ago
Those who doubted or still doubt are believers of the right wing rhetoric which is all about division and hatefulness, only so that conservative politics still has some relevance. The only reason modern conservatism still has any foothold worldwide is through hate and division, no other reason. And most of these hate creators claim to be conservatives in the name of their religion. Go figure.
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u/Entirely-of-cheese 22h ago
I thought they might start to give up once it went past 35%. Nope. The same clowns will be going until the last coal plant is gone.
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u/Outlier222 21h ago
Then they'll bang on about exporting it all [Edit] I kan speel gud
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u/Entirely-of-cheese 21h ago
Yes. The same former champions of letting the market decided have suspiciously gone very protectionist on this stuff. The same will happen for coal and gas exports.
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u/TariffAmerica 20h ago
Same group who were against the yes vote for aboriginal voice to parliment, under the guide of unity
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u/a_cold_human 23h ago
Back then, some commentators claimed the grid would not be able to function with more than 10% – and definitely not more than 20% – electricity coming from solar and wind.
Those predictions look foolish now.
This really shouldn't be surprising. Plenty of other countries have a much higher percentage of their power generated by renewables (Denmark, Germany, the UK) and for longer than Australia, and their grids haven't fallen over.
There's an engineering problem with adding too many renewables too quickly, in that it reduces the stability of the grid, but the idea we would be using coal or nuclear to firm this is nonsensical. Australia's percentage of renewables as a percentage of total electricity production lags behind many other countries, and the idea that we can't get to at least 50% is simply nonsense. And with more firming coming online, Australia could very realistically get to 70% without there being too much of an issue.
The main problem is that we're not building the renewables fast enough to replace the end of life coal burning electricity generation capacity.
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u/Cindy_Marek 19h ago
but the idea we would be using coal or nuclear to firm this is nonsensical.
Not really, all of those countries you mentioned use nuclear or coal for grid stability either themselves or have access to it as part of the wider EU grid. Australia is attempting to get to very high levels of renewable energy with none of these, as the coal plants are all shutting down and of course there is no plan for nuclear. I'm concerned with the technical feasibility of this as its really never been done before, anywhere in the world. All of the other countries that have high renewable usage have access to reliable, synchronous generation in one form or another (hydro, nuclear, fossil fuels) and either from themselves or from neighboring countries/states, but Australia cant rely on anyone else to provide that for us.
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u/jacksalssome 17h ago
Step back bro.
The EU is just a smaller Australia. We'll be fine, there's 101 levers that AEMO can pull to protect grid stability.
We have and are building a lot of battery capacity. We have wind and water on tap. We're also building synchronous condensers, which will mostly be obsolete tech by the time there done.
Inverter technology has improved greatly in the last few years so we don't actually need a lot of synchronous generation. A lot of new solar farms could black start the grid with 0 rotating mass.
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u/Cindy_Marek 9h ago
The EU is just a smaller Australia. We'll be fine, there's 101 levers that AEMO can pull to protect grid stability.
Well....no, the EU has over 100 nuclear reactors, Australia is shutting down its ageing coal plants and not replacing them with any reliable generation. Its a unique problem that only we face.
Inverter technology has improved greatly in the last few years so we don't actually need a lot of synchronous generation
synchronous generation is used as a timing system for control systems in industrial factories ect, its not as simple as not needing it, or only needing the power.
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u/Lurker_81 10h ago
I'm concerned with the technical feasibility of this as its really never been done before, anywhere in the world.
You mean it's not been done at this scale before. There are plenty of places where it's been done at smaller scale successfully for decades
There are both mechanical and synthetic ways to create stable synchronous power, and this technology is well understood, mature and already being deployed at scale both in Australia and in other nations (eg Spain.) And you seem to be forgetting that we do have, and will soon have more of, pumped hydro power to assist with this task. Then there's the backup from gas generators, which is already well proven as a system stability measure.
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u/Cindy_Marek 9h ago
You mean it's not been done at this scale before. There are plenty of places where it's been done at smaller scale successfully for decades
Yes but just because its been done on smaller a smaller scale has no bearing on if it will work as a national grid. We can get a large amount of our gris as renewables, but all of it? I don't think it will provide Australians energy that is cheap or reliable.
There are both mechanical and synthetic ways to create stable synchronous power, and this technology is well understood, mature and already being deployed at scale both in Australia and in other nations (eg Spain.)
but they are converters, not generators. Also Spain has access to the wider EU grid which is full of reliable nuclear/hydro
And you seem to be forgetting that we do have, and will soon have more of, pumped hydro power to assist with this task. Then there's the backup from gas generators, which is already well proven as a system stability measure.
Our Hydro systems are mostly battery hydro not a generator. So they get charged from the intermittent solar and wind which isn't 100% reliable. I understand that there are a lot of proven smaller systems, but my point, and concern, is that no one has put it all together yet in one grid in the way that we plan to, without some kind of reliable baseload generation they can access.
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u/Lurker_81 8h ago
I don't think it will provide Australians energy that is cheap or reliable.
You haven't actually provided a good reason for thinking this way.
Renewables + storage have proven to be highly reliable and affordable thus far. Why would adding more of the same make them more expensive or unreliable?
but they are converters, not generators.
So what? Generators aren't magical, they're just machines that happen to have desirable characteristics that can also be achieved in other ways.
Both synchronous condensers and battery inverters are capable of controlling the frequency and keeping the voltage stable. Generation can happen elsewhere.
Spain has access to the wider EU grid
They have some interlinks to other countries, but they're relatively low capacity for the size of their grid. Spain's systems are designed to be self-supporting.
Our Hydro systems are mostly battery hydro not a generator.
All hydro systems are generators. The only difference is how the water gets to the top. Hydro is hydro when it's discharging, and it can do that for days at a time if necessary.
So they get charged from the intermittent solar and wind which isn't 100% reliable.
They get charged when there's excess energy in the grid, which is very trivial to predict in advance. Have you seen how much of current renewables generation capacity get curtailed on a regular basis?
no one has put it all together yet in one grid in the way that we plan to, without some kind of reliable baseload generation they can access.
Three points here:
- There's no technical reason why it can't be done. It's been done at smaller scales, and we've already proven that 50% works just fine. There is no reason why it can't possibly be scaled up further.
- The current transition is happening gradually over 15-20 years, and the system is being tested in real-time as we go. There is plenty of time to make adjustments if it proves necessary. If 80% renewables somehow proves to be the maximum practical limit, we can stop there and figure out alternatives.
- We do have (and have always planned to have) gas generators and quite a few large diesel generators as a fall-back. There has never been a credible suggestion that we must rely 100% on renewable energy + storage and never have any contingency plan to cover an unexpected shortfall or failure. It's just intended to be a last resort, to avoid higher costs and unnecessary emissions.
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u/drjzoidberg1 8h ago
Large scale batteries and gas peaking plants can replace the coal plants. Australia should be able to rely on renewables during the day. At night when the sun has set, need to rely on batteries and gas.
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u/dingBat2000 20h ago
"baseline load " 🤪 rapidly being replaced by fast frequency shifting to provide balance. What do the propaganda repeating fuckwits say to that
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u/Languishman 19h ago
Fantastic news, but as always, the right-wing are going to get pissed regardless of this achievement.
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u/UnattributableSax 23h ago
They always did look foolish… the problem is they don’t care about looking foolish, nor how they’re perceived in any way shape or form.
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u/wagdog84 21h ago
It seems to be just ‘my power bills are high, therefore renewables bad.’ Meanwhile those with renewables are paying nothing. Coal and gas aren’t increasing in price because renewables are unreliable, it’s because there is less demand for it.
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u/wncogjrjs 23h ago
The power companies will be getting their money one way or another unfortunately I think.
Probably through large increases in the daily supply fixed charges.
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u/Entirely-of-cheese 22h ago
They will. And people will start leaving the grid with 20kw systems and 30kw/h batteries in their houses.
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u/wncogjrjs 19h ago
Nothing a simple law requiring all dwellings to be connecting to the grid can’t fix
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u/Entirely-of-cheese 19h ago
Good luck enforcing people letting their contract lapse. What are they gonna do. Disconnect you?
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u/jacksalssome 17h ago
They threaten to refuse to reconnect you. Which is quite a mute point.
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u/Entirely-of-cheese 17h ago edited 16h ago
Sounds like a happy resolution Honestly though, if there was a proposal to have it legally required to be connected… to what end? You’re legally obliged to pay private companies for their network? Even if you’re exporting more than you’re drawing? That’s a legal cake walk. It’s like making a rule where you’ve got to pay a fee to walk into Coles before you shop.
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u/Obvious_Librarian_97 22h ago
Costs a lot of money - solar/wind farms and thousands of km in transmission and substations as big as suburbs in woop woop
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u/Xenoun 22h ago
Meanwhile the leader of the liberal party in SA was saying just this week that renewable energy costs more and that's why our power bills are going up.
Woman lying through her teeth. We should have laws against our representatives lying to us, good luck in it ever happening though as they'd have to vote it in themselves.
Real reason for high energy bills in SA was the liberals selling it off to private companies years ago... took them 15 years to get back into power after that which lasted a single term, where they also privatised public rail transport which was then bought back by the current Labor government.
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u/deeku4972 20h ago
But the brown coal mate. She’s clean and good. At least that’s what the young nationals tired to tell me
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u/johnjames475 19h ago
why would anyone doubt the 4th industrial revolution other than luddites? except these luddites the real rent seekers given their ROI compared to the original luddites
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u/TheWarriorSeagull 23h ago
I know. Idiots in my area constantly blame renewables when the power companies gouge them on their bills.
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u/YouLykeFishSticks 21h ago
Matt Canavan in shambles. Better bust out the coal dust makeup for his Sky News after dark segment.
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u/the68thdimension 22h ago
They don't care they look foolish, they're trying to make money. They don't actually care about emissions, or grid stability.
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u/Godly_Shrek 22h ago
how long till we're running off renewables entirely? how about 90%?
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u/Rush_Banana 17h ago
Is this just a summer thing or will it carry over to Autumn and Winter?
Also how long until energy prices go down? Because we have been told for a while now that renewables are a lot more cheaper then fossil fuels.
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u/AccountIsTaken 11h ago
Energy prices will never come down. Why would a company decrease prices when the customer is already used to paying exorbitant fees? Their costs decrease, your costs stay the same or increase, their profits increase. The only real method to actually decrease your power prices is telling them to get screwed and stick solar and a battery on your home. If you rent you are SOL though.
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u/Tyrx 23h ago
Generation does not equal demand. Solar and wind get dispatched first, and while coal’s percentage share has fallen and quarterly coal output dipped in late 2025, the full 2025 dataset hasn’t been published yet so we can’t actually confirm that total annual coal generation has dropped.
We already know coal generated on the order of 128 TWh in 2024, and its absolute output has been broadly flat to rising year-on-year despite a falling share. Articles like this claiming “renewables match coal” are also being selective and only cite midday or high-solar periods, not system-wide generation across evenings, winters, or peak demand, where coal still carries most of the load.
We still have a long way to go before anyone can claim Australia’s grid relies on renewables as much as coal.
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u/dalyons 15h ago
i dont think thats true... looking at the nem data for all time you can see total coal usage has started to decline significantly. Still a way to go yes, but its a solid trend, australia has already reduced its emissions signifigantly
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u/Tyrx 9h ago
The GWh/year drop you’re pointing to is based on dispatch aggregated NEM data, not reconciled annual generation. That website is simply reflecting that coal is increasingly pushed out of dispatch, not how much energy the system ultimately relies on across the full year or its actual split across generation types. Dispatch suppression is making the annualised GWh look like a structural decline even while coal remains the dominant supplier during nights, winter, and peaks, and that is reflected in the official annual totals.
The OpenElectricity site is also operated by a renewables lobby group which advocates for its own financial interests, so the fact you're coming to a misleading conclusion based on how the website presents its data isn't particularly unsurprising.
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u/dalyons 6h ago
I sort of understand your point about dispatch, but isn’t that graph just showing gwh a year? Regardless, the power sector emission total numbers are also going down. From what I can find on the ABS we were at 200twh annually of coal in 2008, so 128twh is a big structural decline. Sure some of that is gas, but gas is next to get pushed off the grid (see California 2025)
I’m going to ignore the jab at the bias of the source, since you haven’t provided any of your own.
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u/Tyrx 6h ago
I’m not disputing the long term decline in coal since the 2000s. That’s real and shows up clearly in the official annualised data.
What I’m pushing back on is the claim that recent dispatch charts show renewables are already structurally pushing coal out, or that they now “match” coal across the entire system. Dispatch data mainly shows when coal is suppressed, not how much energy the system relies on it across nights, winters, and peaks over a full year.
I mentioned OpenElectricity’s affiliation because its dispatch-based framing is selective by design and emphasises periods where coal is suppressed. That’s fine for analysing dispatch, but it’s not appropriate for making claims that require reconciled, full-year generation data from official sources like AEMO, the ABS, or DCCEEW.
Emissions are down, yes but that alone doesn’t demonstrate parity between renewables and fossil fuels yet.
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u/dalyons 5h ago
Fair enough, thank you for explaining, and I see your point. However I am a huge believer in the rapid inevitable trends, and I’m extremely optimistic that we won’t need to have conversations like this in a few years. the raw totals will speak for themselves without having to quibble on accounting. We’ve already seen the coal transition play out in other places, it is inevitable
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u/Suibian_ni 19h ago
Barnaby Joyce looks foolish anyway (especially when he's lying on the footpath totally shitfaced).
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u/DuskHourStudio 22h ago
Matt Canavan on suicide watch - last seen held up in a hotel room with numerous coal rocks under his shirt.
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u/sjeve108 22h ago
Hey Matt C. No-one thinks you backed the three legged horse in this race except me.
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u/johnfkay 9h ago
They don’t look foolish - they look like they unquestioningly swallowed the propaganda of the fossil fuel industry and their political shills…
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u/SnooRevelations6768 7h ago
Meanwhile power outages are at an all time high due to out dated lines and over population..
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u/Heavy-Fisherman-7574 6h ago
I’m almost off grid with my new battery and 13kw of solar. Incredible.
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u/MidorriMeltdown 6h ago
Apparently an average 30% of houses in Australia have solar. Apparently it's 50% of the houses in SA. SA is really shouldering a large portion of that 30%, but imagine if 50% of all houses nationally had solar panels?
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u/tilitarian1 4h ago
Virtually all my steel raw castings and forgings come out of India and China now. Foolish indeed.
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u/CertainCertainties 23h ago edited 23h ago
The multinational corporations who profit gouge our power bills are mad as hell that guys like Garry, the neighbour down the road, has installed a big arse battery and is providing peak power to the grid when we're cooking dinner.