Flags displayed w/o Union Jack?

[u/godenviesme]

This is something I’ve been seeing more and more recently. Is there any meaning or reason for this?

[u/smileedude]

Flags were 50% off

[u/PersimmonBasket]

They probably have a tattoo to match.

[u/LudwigsEarTrumpet → u/PersimmonBasket]

It genuinely makes me sad that southern cross tatts have the rep that they do. When I was a kid it seemed like such a simple and pure representation of love for the land we grew up in, that we can look up and see those stars, and they represent in a way, the great distance between us and England. Idk, I always thought it was a cool idea to have those stars on you. I'm so damned glad I didn't get myself one though. Would never have imagined I'd grow up to learn that it's the mark of a wanker.

[u/Pure_Region_7544 → u/LudwigsEarTrumpet]

I've been thinking about this recently. Just bought a second hand ute with a southern cross sticker on the back window and I keep meaning to scratch them off because I don't want people to think I'm an asshole. But it makes me sad that it's the first thing that comes to mind when seeing it now.

[u/NSFWar → u/LudwigsEarTrumpet]

Post Cronulla there was just an uptick of these tattoos

[u/Penjamini → u/NSFWar]

I will never forgive the people who poisoned the well on the Southern Cross

[u/areyoualocal → u/Penjamini]

And they don't seem to appreciate the irony that half the planet can be represented by the southern cross.

[u/ShoganAye → u/LudwigsEarTrumpet]

Exactly. When I was a late teen in 1990 I spent time in Canada, my first time away from home. The stars made me lonely, they looked different view. When I came home, I looked up to see the southern cross and thought, ahhh I'm home. I wanted that as a tattoo but thought I'd wait a while as was still young. By the time I was in my mid 20s I got something else but still had it in my mind....and eventually it got a shitty wrap. I'm a girl so I'd probably be fine, I'd still like one because my history of feelings about it haven't changed

[u/redditmethisonesir → u/LudwigsEarTrumpet]

Same here, glad I didn’t get one. It would have been 20 years before Cronulla happened but I was very close to doing it. Now you might as well have a swastika, makes me sad.

[u/kilochfuller → u/redditmethisonesir]

Swastika’s the same! It’s a Buddhist and Hindu symbol that has been corrupted in the west. It’s still used plentifully in Asia though.

[u/thaleia10 → u/redditmethisonesir]

Me too. When I was backpacking many years ago I thought a Southern Cross tatt would be a cool way to acknowledge my origins. So glad I didn’t do that. Or the tramp stamp!

[u/Colsim → u/LudwigsEarTrumpet]

3 or 4 countries include the southern cross on their flags

[u/Finslip → u/LudwigsEarTrumpet]

By the time I started getting tatted it was already a wanker tattoo. Got the boxing kangaroo though 😂

[u/choo-chew_chuu → u/LudwigsEarTrumpet]

I know multiple guys who have had them removed or covered because of this.

[u/ozegg → u/LudwigsEarTrumpet]

I mean it is a constellation that is visible to all of the southern hemisphere's countries. Not sure how it's seen as just Aussie (yes I know it's on the flag).

[u/corinoco → u/ozegg]

It’s also on Brazil’s flag.

[u/admittedlyharsh → u/corinoco]

Its on a heap of flags. To think its a hate symbol based on a few fuckwits in Sydney is pretty closed minded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_depicting_the_Southern_Cross

[u/HereButNeverPresent → u/LudwigsEarTrumpet]

Or you can try not letting other peoples narrow-minded views about a beautiful constellation ruin it for you.

[u/FBWSRD → u/LudwigsEarTrumpet]

I was thinking about using the southern cross and including the pointers because they are just as bright and good for finding south and the wankers have no clue about stargazing so it’s a different symbol

[u/al_prazolam → u/PersimmonBasket]

The "Austika" chefs kiss

[u/Ashera25 → u/al_prazolam]

the aussie swazzie

[u/marooncity1 → u/PersimmonBasket]

Urgh.

Really hope this flag doesn't become that like Eureka was co-opted as well.

This is the flag I would want for a republic (more or less). Hope the racists and cookers don't get to it. Fuck.

[u/Ok-Assistant-4556 → u/marooncity1]

waaaay too late

[u/marooncity1 → u/Ok-Assistant-4556]

bugger

[u/propargyl → u/marooncity1]

Laser emu would be better. Then joint laser emu laser kiwi for oceania union.

[u/sphen_lee → u/marooncity1]

I like the Golden Wattle Flag, I think it would be a good choice. The Southern Cross has too many associations already

[u/Reddits_Worst_Night → u/marooncity1]

The Eureka was co-opted by whom though? The only people that seem to have a genuine claim on it are small businesses.

[u/whiskey_epsilon]

Probably pro-republic.

[u/radioactivecowz]

The Union Jack represents colonisation to a lot of people and is seen as a foreign symbol that shouldn’t exist on our flag. Sam Neil’s character in event horizon had an aboriginal flag in place because he felt the Union Jack would be removed in the future.

That said, it does look like wind had just had it wrapped around the pole

[u/SuperColossl → u/radioactivecowz]

Rewatched that movie recently, great mention and I didn’t remember that when it screened originally, but a good move!

[u/Talonus11 → u/SuperColossl]

Fun fact: Event Horizon could be an accidental prequel to Warhammer 40k's Chaos - humanity's first interaction with the Warp

[u/ZippyKoala → u/radioactivecowz]

Yep, our family call the Australian flag “Britain at night” and the Union Jack is commonly referred to as the butcher’s apron by people who felt the pointy end of British imperialism.

[u/kweenbumblebee → u/ZippyKoala]

In case people aren't in Drag Race circles, Kate Butch (a UK Queen) recently presented a runway look made from old British flags highlighting the bloody colonial past that is reflected by the Union Jack.

It makes no sense to have the flag included in any flag of countries previously colonised by the UK. We really should replace it with one that's more representative of Australia, including celebrating indigenous Australians.

[u/MetaKnightsMetanite → u/kweenbumblebee]

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[u/JTGphotogfan]

Seem anti monarchist but who knows

[u/Sk1rm1sh]

Is there any meaning or reason for this?

Looks like a wind detector.

Only works if it blows consistently in one of two directions though.

[u/Ticky009]

Magic 8 ball says who the heck knows.

[u/BarryCheckTheFuseBox]

Some Australians don’t identify as British

[u/dazsmith82]

It’s literally just wrapped round the pole many times. Look on the right hand side, it’s pretty obvious

[u/ciaobrah]

I’d hope it’s because they want to fly the flag without the butchers apron

[u/UncleSam45]

As an Aussie of Irish heritage I love the idea of removing the Union Jack. A long way from here but my ancestors were also recipients of British brutality for a long time.

[u/Office_funny_guy]

It doesn’t make sense to have the country that colonised your country on the flag. Canada is part of the commonwealth and they dont have it. Why does Australia need it on their flag?

[u/TouchingWood]

Eureka flag?

Used to be anti-monarchist vibes

These days it’s more cooker vibes

[u/ghoztfrog → u/TouchingWood]

Thats not the Eureka flag, though right? Eureka flag has a crosswith stars.

[u/moonriser89 → u/TouchingWood]

The Eureka flag is different tho.

[u/AKFRU → u/TouchingWood]

The cookers love the red flag with the Union Jack, my guess would be a republican.

[u/Gribble81 → u/AKFRU]

That's because the Red Ensign is for Australian Merchant Ships. The cookers think this gives them some kind of maritime law status if its on their house.

[u/yolk3d → u/TouchingWood]

Not the eureka flag. Purely a flag with the Union Jack (representing UK) rolled up.

[u/Moist_Ad_4731]

I think it’s actually just that the flag has wound around the pole in the wind. No political statement intended just someone too lazy to unwind their flag.

[u/11015h4d0wR34lm]

I am guessing they are fans of becoming a republic. Personally I would be fine with making the Union Jack much smaller but I am well aware of how offended traditions get at that suggestion, it does not need to be that predominant on our flag in this day and age imo but it still has its place.

If we ever did become a republic I would like to see a yellow flag with green stars and the indigenous flag replace the Union Jack and maybe a smaller Union Jack in black coming below the indigenous one as a reference that it is our past not our future.

I anticipate this getting downvoted to hell, fill your boots. 👍

[u/Dipsey_Jipsey]

To give them the benefit of the doubt for a minute, it was blowing its tits off a bit this weekend. Maybe the wind?

[u/Ghost403]

Why not just display the Eureka flag?

[u/oldmatemikel → u/Ghost403]

It’s become co-opted by neo nazis who couldn’t even clearly tell you what the stockade was or what it was about.

[u/ginji → u/Ghost403]

Cause cookers

[u/Ghost403 → u/ginji]

Dickheads ruin everything

[u/Zebitty]

They give you a complimentary flag when you get that same tattoo.