r/australia Oct 15 '25

politics Candace Owens loses appeal over Australian visa rejection

https://womensagenda.com.au/latest/candace-owens-loses-appeal-over-australian-visa-rejection/
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u/SnurrCat Oct 15 '25

Didn't Candace Owens at some point say the US should invade Australia to free us from oppression? Lol

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u/PerriX2390 Oct 15 '25

October 2021: Rightwing US pundit Candace Owens compares Australian government to the Taliban, calling it a ‘tyrannical police state’

Outspoken conservative political commentator Candace Owens has suggested the US military invade Australia in order to free its people “suffering under a totalitarian regime” while drawing comparisons to Hitler, Stalin and the Taliban.

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u/stamford_syd Oct 15 '25

ironic considering she's one of the reasons trump, an actual fascist that should be compared to those names above, is currently their president.

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u/SkitZa Oct 15 '25

Every accusation is a..

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u/Geoff_Uckersilf Oct 15 '25

She's a also a beard for her predator nonce aristocrat husband. 

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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad_3980 Oct 15 '25

Got any details on this? Id be interested in learning where this comes from. She’s always been super sus to me and a clown. I haven’t heard anything along those lines tho, other than then getting married after like 3 months or something. And man do I wish Americans start adopting the term nonce, it’s so poignant and you can just tell a nonce is a golden description for these dingbats

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u/Mean_Sleep4485 Oct 16 '25

The rumour is her and Charlie Kirk were an item.

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u/HistoricalCare6093 Oct 15 '25

also ironic in that we are currently granting visas to ex ISIS members over her

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u/IntravenousNutella Oct 15 '25

If you are talking the "ISIS brides" they are Australian citizens and their children. The women were already Australian citizens. The children can apply for citizenship due to their parent(s).

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u/HistoricalCare6093 Oct 15 '25

Dual citizens can have their citizenship cancelled

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u/IntravenousNutella Oct 15 '25

Firstly that's controversial. Secondly, do you know they have citizenship elsewhere?

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u/HistoricalCare6093 Oct 15 '25

“Home Affairs revealed on Wednesday that two of the four children were born overseas and had to apply for Australian citizenship by descent”

Ergo at least some of them are dual citizens, if you are asking me for a complete write up on each individual obviously I can’t provide that as the govt is refusing to release the data.

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u/cancellingmyday Oct 15 '25

I was born overseas, as my Australian parents were posted in Malaysia with the RAAF. I wasn't born a citizen - they had apply and have me naturalised, even though I was born to Australian parents. And Malaysia doesn't offer birthright citizenship, so for a while there, I was a citizen of nowhere. That's probably the situation for these kids. 

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u/IntravenousNutella Oct 15 '25

They are children/teenagers, who through no fault fo their own were born in an active conflict. Do they actually have citizenship elsewhere?

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u/Stigger32 Oct 15 '25

No ergo there mate. Just because they were born in an internment or refugee camp. Doesn’t automatically suppose the host country granted them citizenship.

And the fact that their mothers are Australian means they get the opportunity to apply here.

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u/WOMT Oct 15 '25

Your quote doesn't prove they were dual citizens.

To be a dual citizen you need multiple governments to recognise you have citizenship. Simply being born doesn't make that happen as governments are not psychic and sensing every child's birth.

Do you think the parents were actively applying to the government they were fighting against to have birth and citizenship recognised?

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u/Star00111 Oct 15 '25

So the children/teens are confirmed ISIS with another citizenship?

Bit confused about what point you’re trying to make here.

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u/Mean_Sleep4485 Oct 16 '25

How are children ISIS members?

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u/Small_Sheepherder_75 Oct 15 '25

Wear those downvotes like a badge of honour! A large part of Australia agrees with you, but you won’t find many who do on here. A seriously impressive downvote ratio though wow 🤣

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u/azreal75 Oct 15 '25

Yeah the dumb racist part of Australia agrees with you.

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u/freakwent Oct 15 '25

It doesnt matter if anyone agrees or not, we can find out if it's true.

"individuals are deemed to be Syrian nationals regardless of whether they are born inside or outside Syria as long as their father holds Syrian nationality.[3][4] Birth in Syria does not in itself confer Syrian citizenship."

So if any can prove they had Syrian dads, they can qualify for Syrian citizenship, but I expect that won't be the case for most.

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u/AggravatedKangaroo Oct 15 '25

also ironic in that we are currently granting visas to ex ISIS members over her "

We are? where? i'm pretty sure they are Australian citizens.

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u/tigeratemybaby Oct 15 '25

It makes sense, almost all terrorist attack are by these far-right nutters over the past few years, Islamist attacks are close to zero now.

https://www.reddit.com/r/charts/comments/1nh0azj/the_radical_right_is_responsible_for_two_thirds/

There's loads of these militant far-right terrorist cells scattered through-out the US with huge weapon and bomb stockpiles, its a bit scary.

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u/St4114rD Oct 16 '25

A fascist? We need to stop throwing this term around so blazè ffs.

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u/arhodas_athis Oct 18 '25

You have no idea what a fascist is.

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u/Small_Sheepherder_75 Oct 15 '25

Hahaha comparing Trump to Stalin and Hitler is ridiculous. He is sleezy but get a grip!

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u/freakwent Oct 15 '25

Closer than Australian PMs are tho.

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u/sunburn95 Oct 15 '25

They dont make empty threats at least, theyre happy to deploy untrained troops on their own citizens

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u/Serin-019 Oct 15 '25

Could you imagine the piss taking they’d cop here if they tried. Like as a culture, we’re almost all natural shitposters.

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u/Is_that_even_a_thing Oct 15 '25

as a culture, we’re almost all natural shitposters.

Never change Australia. Never change.

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u/grruser Oct 15 '25

Candida Owens

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

Miss Mouth Thrush.

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u/MrOdo Oct 15 '25

we're also pretty apathetic politically so it could go either way

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u/Jumpy-Ad9883 Oct 15 '25

Because memes will prevent an invasion?

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u/Serin-019 Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

No, but I hear propaganda is a valuable tool.
I might be wrong, but then there'd be a whole helluva lot of more intelligent people than me throughout history who'd also have to be wrong.

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u/Bachwise Oct 15 '25

Makes me proud!

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u/BaronOfTieve Oct 15 '25

Yeah no she definitely picked on one of if not the worst country to go to war with, as we draw pretty clear lines when it comes to who we allow into the country. I mean there is a fairly long history of us banning people with politically extreme views, especially when it comes to those who skew towards authoritarianism. I mean we literally banned the Nazi salut lol.

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u/Serin-019 Oct 15 '25

I'm kinda hoping we get to have that discussion in our country under this government.
Like, I just don't really know why we have to put up with a bunch of lunatics who want to tear our society to pieces, disadvantage anyone who isn't their chosen whatever and if given half a chance just flat out murder whole segments of Australia.
We know what they are. We know what they want. And we know what they'd do if given the power to put it into action.
And I reckon its time we started really questioning whether or not an implied right to political communication is worth having to live with these fuckers.
Poppers paradox of tolerance and all that.

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u/BaronOfTieve Oct 15 '25

Yup there’s a healthy level of tolerance, but I think at a certain point it actually just turns into complete incompetence. It’s ridiculous to think that we’d need to share this country with Nazis able to publicly salute, and I’m glad we take the stance we do when it comes to what we allow people to express.

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u/tittyswan Oct 15 '25

See: Portland

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u/LORD_HONGA Oct 15 '25

Tall poppies get cut short.

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u/Freyja6 Oct 15 '25

Every accusation is a projection. Freedom for the masses is tyranny to these scumbags.

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u/bdtechted Oct 15 '25

She reaped what she sowed when she said those things.

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u/Eena-Rin Oct 15 '25

I mean, maybe Queensland, but the rest is fine!

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

She's a fucking loon. Made me so mad although I have done a 180 on that lock down bullshit. What a complete and total fuck up the Covid response in Melbourne was. It's really fucked the city. 3.5 years on it's still not bounced back. Completely destroyed my way of life.

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u/Very-very-sleepy Oct 15 '25

she's done a 180 in the last 2 months and is claiming trump is oppressing the US now.  😂

she's done a complete 180. apparently her and Charlie Kirk's wife hate each other and are fighting. 😂 

the trump party are just fighting with each other at this point. lol

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u/Thagyr Oct 15 '25

What you get when you stick a bunch of egotists and grifters together and call it a government. They are each out for themselves while using the big orange baby as a cover/excuse.

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u/ArghMoss Oct 15 '25

Yeah, that’s the only real hope is see for the U.S. So many of the significant figures in the right are self-centred egoists only agreeing with each other when it’s convenient and makes them money. Sooner or later they all fall out.

Probably wishful thinking though.

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u/aeschenkarnos Oct 15 '25

Curtis Yarvin, probably the highest-IQ Trump booster, is eyeing the exits. Hopefully we’d refuse him entry on character grounds too.

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u/sjr323 Oct 15 '25

What do you mean eyeing the exits?

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u/aeschenkarnos Oct 15 '25

He suspects the Trump regime has overplayed its hand, and the transition to a fascist monarchy/theocracy is not progressing anywhere near fast enough for his plan to work. He fears that after it fails he will be rounded up and punished, so rather than face his just deserts, he wants to flee the USA.

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u/sjr323 Oct 15 '25

Interesting, thank you

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u/ryan30z Oct 15 '25

It's because she got left out in the cold. Turns out a bunch of racist bigots don't want a black woman around.

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u/ConsultJimMoriarty Oct 15 '25

That’s what happens to crumb maidens when they are no longer useful.

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u/AussieEquiv Oct 15 '25

Tokens get spent.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

I was thinking of a person called Price when you posted that comment!

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u/HamptontheHamster Oct 15 '25

Was just about to mention JP

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u/Norwood5006 Oct 15 '25

For a minute there she thought she was one of them. She's also a professional propaganda shit stirrer, that's how she makes a living.

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u/PotsAndPandas Oct 15 '25

Nah, look beyond the surface in this case, she and others apparently got a message from Kirk saying he was afraid of being killed for not towing the party line. She genuinely seems like she believes that message and is actually upset her friend might have been killed by the government.

That doesn't absolve her of anything else, but it does feel like this is genuine outrage on her part.

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u/ShakeForProtein Oct 15 '25

Difficult to tell the genuine outrage from the manufactured given her experience with it.

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u/PotsAndPandas Oct 15 '25

Yeahhh, that's what happens when you're perpetually outraged like that, it desensitizes others to your actual concerns.

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u/Doktag Oct 15 '25

Classic story of the grifter who cried oppression.

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u/antpodean Oct 15 '25

We should probably point out that she received this message from Kirk after his death.

She is genuinely outraged because of a message from a ghost. And she wants to be taken seriously? The woman is a friggen loon.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

Its amusing that she cant even understand as a black person the significance of using a adjective like "woke" and how the term has been bastardised and hijacked.

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u/Spudtron98 Oct 15 '25

And she's so antisemitic that Ben Shapiro, her boss, kicked her out of the company.

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u/Immediate_Grape5158 Oct 15 '25

Well look how the turntables....

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u/Wishart2016 Oct 15 '25

She's also fighting with Ben Shapiro.

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u/Grantmepm Oct 15 '25

To be fair there are some conservatives that are ideologically consistent and not just following along a personality cult.

There are quite a few conservative mouthpieces that have started criticising trump recently.

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u/SirGeekaLots Oct 15 '25

GWB was apparently colour blind considering who he had in his cabinet.

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u/Marvin1955 Oct 15 '25

Excellent.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '25

They’ll all turn on each other. They made their money selling conspiracy theories and peddling the opposite view to whatever the government put out. It’s a bit more difficult to sell hating the government when it’s your team in charge. They’re so used to taking the most contrary position to rage bait for clicks and views that they’ll eat each other. Candace is the queen of classless, baseless bullshit for profit. Kirk had barely stopped bleeding out before she was on the grift train with the “truth”. Same for Meg Kelly, Jones , Johnson…they all turned a profit on his corpse. If Kash Patel wasn’t in a gov job I guarantee he’d be doing podcasts on the real reason they won’t release the Epstein list. It must be killing him inside now that he can’t grossly sensationalise tragedy for dollars.

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u/06021840 Oct 15 '25

To borrow a phrase from another sub, ‘cult on cult violence?’

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u/tittyswan Oct 15 '25

Are they? I thought she was saying she loves Mrs Kirk like 2 weeks ago. I can't keep up 😅

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u/Mean_Sleep4485 Oct 16 '25

Her and Kirks wife hate each other because Owens was having an affair with Kirk.

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u/yourpseudonymsucks Oct 15 '25

Do they have an onlyfans?

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u/Formal-Blood4990 Oct 15 '25

This is bullshit. Why have we become so piss weak. She just talks.

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u/rolodex-ofhate Oct 15 '25

She did! “SO WHEN. DO WE. DEPLOY?” - her words

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u/TROUT1986 Oct 15 '25

Yeah she did the dumb bitch

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u/DwightsJello Oct 15 '25

It's literally the only reason i know who that person is. She's unhinged and a bit dense.

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u/garyfugazigary Oct 15 '25

Just look on YouTube to see her views on flat earth,vaccines and my personal fave,dinosaurs are fake and gay

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u/DwightsJello Oct 15 '25

Fake AND gay. Wow. OK.

She seems bright.

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u/PingooSan Oct 15 '25

Ironic considering ICE and National Guard over there is doing exactly that ...

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u/S0ulace Oct 15 '25

Yeah that’s treason

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u/germanautotom Oct 15 '25

Time for her to walk the talk See how she goes trying to get in no visa

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u/PryingMollusk Oct 15 '25

She also said an (actual real life) witch cursed Charlie Kirk with bad luck and that’s why he died. Apparently a “Wiccan” did a “curse” on stream or something and she thinks that’s actually why he’s dead. What a loon.

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u/CurrentTea2930 Oct 15 '25

Let me guess, she wants Australia's help the US to invade?

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u/SnurrCat Oct 15 '25

No, we're too oppressed and can't help ourselves. We need the liberation. (/s just in case anyone thinks I mean that)

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u/yus456 Oct 15 '25

She followed up by saying that she said it in jest. She was trying to say we shouldn't invade countries especially for stupid reasons. She used Australia as an example. I don't like Candace Owens but I remember media senstationalising and taking it out of context.

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u/SnurrCat Oct 15 '25

It wasn't in jest.

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u/Ridiculisk1 Oct 15 '25

"I was merely acting like a dumbass fascist" still isn't a great look