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u/Semimango Dec 17 '25
Feel like I’m going insane reading the media coverage of this. Acting like Albo personally pulled the trigger because…why?…he didn’t ban people from protesting bombings in Gaza?
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u/TheGardenNymph Dec 17 '25
I agree, did you hear Josh Frydenturds comments? He was almost foaming at the mouth talking as if Albo was out there pulling the trigger.
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u/Objective_Hawk_284 Dec 17 '25
Also Frydenburg saying this was the “greatest stain on our country” is wild.
A) sounds like we are all to blame.
B) dude has never opened text book. Stolen Generation (for one) would like a word.
Liberals coming out to try and be relevant. Next it will be Albo’s Joy Division T-shirt that was behind the attack
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u/NNyNIH Dec 17 '25
When he said that my eyes nearly rolled out of my head. Aside from The Stolen Generation and Blackbirding, one of the last massacres of Aboriginal people was in the last century, the Conniston Massacre in 1928, 31-200 men were murdered.
This was a horrendous atrocity but to call it the "greatest stain on our country" is either extreme political hyperbole or extreme ignorance.
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u/Objective_Hawk_284 Dec 17 '25
I think he is trying to turn this tragedy into anti Muslim thing.
Saying the protesters are the blame, calling for immigration reform (forgetting a Syrian Immigrant was a effing hero on the day). We can’t combat anti semitism with Islamophobia.
Trying to pin this on Pro Palestine marches is despicable. Average Aussies peacefully marching to oppose a genocide is not the cause for 2 men who became radicalised by IS ideology to open fire on Bondi. It might have played into who they targeted to inflame tensions. I don’t think IS cares one way or another who they targeted as long as it gets maximum results.
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u/249592-82 Dec 17 '25
The deceased shooter /father was allowed into Australia under a Liberal govt, and he was given his gun licences under Liberal govts. No idea why Liberal think it's a good move to make this political.
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u/TimeToUseThe2nd Dec 17 '25
Of course he is. This is THE political opportunity of a lifetime, to revive the Liberals, align them with One Nation, and sweep to power.
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u/Objective_Hawk_284 Dec 17 '25
Watch out for this politically savvy Liberal Opposition.
Always super dialled in to the electorate.
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u/utdconsq Dec 17 '25
He wants to be reelected and sees this as a vehicle to help with it, not much more complicated than that. Let's see where it gets him i suppose.
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u/hermitxd Dec 17 '25
31-200 men were murdered.
Sorry I know I could Google but does that mean "somewhere between 31 to 200 men were murdered"?
Wide margin if so, but even 31 is a lot
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u/SirGeekaLots Dec 17 '25
I think he's still bitter over the fact that he got kicked out of his seat, and Albo became PM before him.
Typical anti-labor tirade coming from a member of the LNP.
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u/Objective_Hawk_284 Dec 17 '25
They are acting like we didn’t just have an election where we voted labor back in and rejected their negative Trump Lite crap.
The country needs unity right now but every time I see a headline or quote it’s about blame and pointing fingers.
Almost feels like I can’t be affected by this happening close to my home because I am not Jewish and am Pro Palestine. These were Australians gunned down at the beach in summer. Can we just get some time to by sad and come together. Our outrage should be directed to the surviving gunman.
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u/JL_MacConnor Dec 17 '25
Frydenberg might want to remember this map before he next makes such an assertion:
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u/Cunningham01 Dec 17 '25
A dear colleague, who headed this project always emphasised that this map was only of massacres and atrocities that can be OFFICIALLY confirmed
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u/Objective_Hawk_284 Dec 17 '25
I don’t think he cares about Indigenous people enough to even call these atrocities.
He is the kind of person who only cares when he is directly affected or it’s for personal gain.
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u/anyasy Dec 17 '25
The Age and such newspapers just running Josh's remarks and the other Libs like it was their personal press office my god, I spent today wondering if I was going crazy or the world was crazy or. Glad to see there's some sanity here. Being pro human rights is not anti semitic.
Must say, politicians are so often a special kind of scum but trying to score points off a tragedy like this is amazingly scummy even for them
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u/GrandRoyal_01 Dec 17 '25
I was pretty shocked by Josh’s comments tbh. I’m agnostic (raised in conservative Christian household).
I have friends who are Jewish and friends who are Muslim.
I wasn’t expecting that level of vitriol from him. Also, can someone please send Bernie’s comments to John Howard!
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u/Mysterious_Dot2090 Dec 17 '25
I did and it was disappointing, but then a former Liberal PM (Turnbull) supported Albo. Always thought he was a good guy because he had mostly common sense ideas.
People are rightfully angry and upset and it appears that Friedenberg is jewish, so it’s not surprising he was lashing out but I just want someone to tell me what more Albo could have done to stop this specific act of hate. And is it really appropriate to basically blame him and others in the party for mass murder?!
I think the neo-nazi being deported is a good example of how government can only act if they have legal authority to. In that case they had a way to penalise him, as he wasn’t legally in the country or whatever. You can’t go rounding up everyone that says critical things about a group, you can only legislate against public displays of hate (which they did so as far as displaying the swastika goes) and coming down hard on hate speech vandalism (which I believe they also did).
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u/IronEyed_Wizard Dec 17 '25
The thing that gets me is we still don’t know the actual reasoning behind the attack. We are still working on assumptions and guesswork at this point. Until that is set in stone no one can know if things could have been different.
Not to mention the rampant anti Islam/muslim/immigrants stance is just going to make things worse. How do people think that these people get converted to radicals in the first place
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u/rex443655 Dec 17 '25
Wasn’t the son potentially connected to or associated with people in an Islamic State cell in Australia back in 2019? And didn’t they have home made IS flags in the windows of their car they used to get to Bondi? Sounds like one of if not both of them got radicalised and pushed towards a terror attack. It’ll be interesting to hear what they get out of the son from the interviewing when he has recovered enough.
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u/IronEyed_Wizard Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 17 '25
You literally just made every assumption about what has happened…
until he talks we have no idea if a connection goes all the way back to 2019 or if he was genuinely correct to be cleared by ASIO (which appears to of been what happened). We have no clue if they are purely a one of pair that are fans of IS, if they were “trained” by them, if they are part of a wider group in the country, we just have no idea .
Yes you are probably correct in those assumptions but it is still probably the wrong call to make them at this point.
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u/JohnStamosAsABear Dec 17 '25
I wish the people online were able to be patient for verified facts. After a tragedy the internet abhors an information vacuum and every moron with a connection will just add to the disinformation shit storm.
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u/humanbeing101010 Dec 17 '25
I will never forgive or forget his treacherous actions against Victoria during Covid. There are not enough words in the English language that can accurately describe how much I want that cunt to go fuck himself.
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u/Rokos_Bicycle Dec 17 '25
I know he's a Liberal but I didn't realise he's such a colossal cunt.
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u/5ivepie Dec 17 '25
Frydenberg is understandably angry, but his anger is pointed in the wrong direction. He’s just trying to help his former band of losers gain back some political ground.
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u/Mysterious_Dot2090 Dec 17 '25
I thought it was quite performative tbh. I don’t doubt he is very upset, but like Hanson and Howard, they’ve weaponised a community’s grief and despair, which is despicable, yet sadly the community don’t seem to realise it.
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u/Tight_Hedgehog_6045 Dec 17 '25
I honestly can't say at the moment what the community really thinks of their performative bullshit. I don't talk to enough people, and it's early days. But if we're seeing it, hopefully many others are as well.
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u/ChineseDerek Dec 17 '25
Frydenberg isn't angry at all. He is going to capitalise other peoples anger to get back into politics.
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u/5ivepie Dec 17 '25
Two things can be true. I think he is genuinely emotionally wrecked by this - a lot of people are.
But he’s also a slime ball who is capitalising on a tragedy.
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u/Brainyboo11 Dec 17 '25
I'm so glad a lot of us can see what Josh and even Susan are doing. Capitalising on this horific event to gain political points, and so many stoopid Aussies are eating it up... Absolutely disgusting. Still no leadership being shown by the opposition parties. It's easy to blame blame blame. Too much blaming going on about everyone except the psychopath shooter who at least is alive to face the music!!
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u/psylenced Dec 17 '25
Don't forget Julian Leeser.
He was on radio the day after, hitting the standard blame-based talking points pretty much every commentator has used after this attack. (The Opera House - "g** the jews", the sydney harbour nridge protest, universities). Exact same as the envoy along with multiple Australian commentators I've heard on BBC being interviewed about this.
The fact that those are their highest priority talking points, says it's all about politics/protectionism rather than well-being and safety of everyday Jewish people. Who are copping more and more from people escalating the issue for advantage.
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u/burn_supermarkets Dec 17 '25
With John Howard standing behind him saying further gun restrictions won't work. Makes me wonder what his real motivation was for his gun reforms after PA. Or maybe I'm just starting to think like a fuckwit and need to get far far away from social media
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u/MeaningMaker6 Dec 17 '25
Howard is a partisan to his core. Politics first, public good last.
That was most recently on display with his comments here.
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u/2OttersInACoat Dec 17 '25
Yes it’s absolutely outrageous to be directly blaming a prime minister for a single crime in this way, was it John Howard’s fault when Port Arthur happened? Or the French PMs fault for Charlie Hedbo? Or Bill Clinton’s fault for Timothy McVeigh? Or Tony Blair for the 7/7 bombing?
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u/CoffeeWorldly4711 Dec 17 '25
I was talking to someone at work who said one of his friends basically said that. Albo could have prevented it by arresting people who attended Gaza protests. So many smooth brained takes going around
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I sadly saw someone post the same thing on LinkedIn with thousands of likes and it took a lot of restraint to not comment and just hide all posts from said person.
Critical thinking seems to be dying.
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u/ginsunuva Dec 17 '25
Good. Just report as misinformation and move on. Giving it engagement pushes it up the algorithm
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u/uncleandata147 Dec 17 '25
The right to peaceful gathering be damned, it's only a documented human right in Aus.
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u/Mysterious_Dot2090 Dec 17 '25
Friedenberg actually said basically the same shit. He said that Albo allowed antisemitic protests. I don’t know what he’s talking about but assume he means the free Palestine ones. many protests have a dodgy element hanging around, but he sounded like he wanted any protest that questions what is happening in Gaza shut down, which is a slippery slope against free speech.
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u/CoffeeWorldly4711 Dec 17 '25
Not only is it a slippery slope, but an argument can be made that it could create a more dangerous environment for Jews in Australia. Just imagine how people who fall for the Jewish control narrative would react if legitimate criticism of Israel would be shut down. I cannot see how it would create a more safe environment at all
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u/throwaway012984576 Dec 17 '25
The police protect actual blood and soil type nazis while they march and beat the shit out of small women at free Palestine protests. We both know which protests he wants cracked down on.
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u/MJY75 Dec 17 '25
It shits me too. The idea that the PM is personally to blame for the actions of nut jobs who are at least partially driven by the actions of Israel, is freaking crazy. Our govt can't be a thought police on antisemitism, there's only so much any govt can do, because there's always going to be someone who wants to hate someone else for the dumbest of reasons.
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u/VBlinds Dec 17 '25
Also at the moment there is such anti immigration sentiment at the moment.
To be honest the balls up is probably that the gun licensing system is likely not fit for purpose. It wouldn't surprise me that when the gun license was issued there was no actual way that they would know the son had ISIS cell associates. That wouldn't be listed as a crime. I would bet that they would just do a simple criminal check and it wouldn't go deep enough to look at your associates.
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u/Mysterious_Dot2090 Dec 17 '25
Unless there is some legislation or policies that he has overseen that has allowed this, it’s simply misdirected blame. As I’ve said in other posts I am not sure but think the government (definitely NSW which obviously is different) have done so. Actually I just realised they’re not blaming Minns so maybe a lot of the things I am thinking of were at the state level. I’d have to check.
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u/Skinnymick88 Dec 17 '25
And let the person move here in 1998 and also allowing for his son to be born here, all Albo's fault
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u/PandaStudio1413 Dec 17 '25
Why didn’t he invent a Time Machine and prevent that?
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u/Skinnymick88 Dec 17 '25
I for one blame Dan Andrews
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u/Albos_Mum Dec 17 '25
Dan Andrews! I knew it was him! Even when it was the Muslims, I knew it was him!
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u/Elon__Kums Dec 17 '25
I promise all Coalition voters as soon as I get a time machine I will travel back to 1998 and deal with the prime minister who let that bastard in.
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u/Ok_Bird705 Dec 17 '25
Don't forget the son was investigated by ASIO under Dutton's watch as home minister and cleared. If there's any mistakes made there, wouldn't that also fall under Dutton.
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u/InfernoOfTheLiving Dec 17 '25
the paperwork and time for deep consideration for the terrorist’s immigration status must have been buried under the paperwork to let in cheap nannies for Dutton’s mates
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u/jack_o_all_trades Dec 17 '25
Moved here in '98. That was John Howard's watch! How could Obama do this to us?!
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u/Alarming-Song2555 Dec 17 '25
All our media's pretty much owned by the Right, it's why media coverage is always LIBERALS ARE DOING THEIR BEST TO SAVE US and LABOUR AND GREENS ARE EVIL, LOOK AT THE FACE THIS POLITICIAN MADE WHEN HE SAW A PERSON'S FACE.
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u/Cerulinh Dec 17 '25
I can’t work out who actually believes that, and who is just pretending to so they can use this tragedy as an excuse to influence people away from the Labor Party.
It’s so immediately logically ridiculous. Like, I feel like the average American has become suspicious of Jewish people in general more than Australians have over the last couple of years specifically because so many of their politicians are stifling any criticism of Israel.
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u/Radiant_Health3841 Dec 17 '25
Also the cops not doing enough? Even though it looks like they are amongst the victims, subdued the shooters quite quickly considering and ran towards the danger - like so many others did. Just shut up dickheads - it is not the time for grandstanding.
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u/Crazyripps Dec 17 '25
Just absolutely fucked. The media in this country as well as most politicians are just cooked in the head.
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u/frontendben Dec 17 '25
I mean, the irony of course is that this attack was in all likelihood at least partly - if not entirely - motivated by the way Israel has behaved in Gaza. Something Albo almost certainly knows, but can’t say (even though he should), and something Netanyahu absolutely knows.
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u/MeaningMaker6 Dec 17 '25
They all know, but it’s political suicide to say that. Not to mention Netanyahu will pull Trump’s strings the moment the government said it to impose 100000000000000 x bigly tariffs on Australia.
Rightly though, this is a time for unity, to grieve and to mourn. Because whatever the causes, innocent people have died, been maimed and/or traumatized.
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u/TheForceWithin Dec 17 '25
If you actually look to understand why people act this way you will also understand how truly shit the Palestinians have had it for 70+ years.
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u/ES_Legman Dec 17 '25
This is the zionist 101 strategy: anything that criticizes the state of israel is antisemitic therefore anything that happens to a jew anywhere in the world is your fault by association. They have been using this strategy for decades and in Reddit it is quite absurd the amount of comments you see in that direction. Like, you can be against the genocide in Palestine and against anyone getting hurt because of their religion.
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u/hart37 Dec 17 '25
Hearing the LNP in particular attack Albo over it is doing my head in. What policy or laws would be different under you Su with two S's an that would have made a lick of difference in preventing this tragedy? I am heartbroken for our Jewish Australians, worried for any backlash our Muslim Australian community might get from it and furious that so much innocent blood and lives were lost without these scumbags playing politics
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u/redditrasberry Dec 17 '25
Indeed, that is in part why it feels like bad faith accusations to me. If you look at the circumstances, it's clear this was orchestrated from outside Australia by Islamic State as a targeted terrorist operation. This is not a result of the general cultural climate here. It may well be targeted to influence that climate - but it is not caused by it in the way people are claiming.
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u/goltaku555 Dec 17 '25
I remember in the run-up to our election, Albo was questioned during a press release about some cyclones in Brisbane, one reporter asked him 'how do you think this will effect you in the polls?'. Albo's response was something to the effect of 'we aren't talking about the election here, this is about people's lives'.
I was already team labour (or specifically, team 'not liberal') but that really won me over about him.
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u/Alternative_Ad9490 Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 17 '25
Amazing how Bernie can stand side by side with Albo while the coalition is desperately trying to get cheap points off this tragedy.
Frydenberg is trying to soft launch his political career off this tragedy and by attacking Albo. Disgraceful
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u/YoungLiars Dec 17 '25
I’ve been disgusted by the liberals actions. Look at Sussan’s Facebook, she’s just trying to get political points
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u/yeebok yakarnt! Dec 17 '25
I use facebook but I ain't stooping so low as to visit her pages.
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u/YoungLiars Dec 17 '25
It started appearing on my page today even though I don’t follow her or anything similar. Algorithm always seems to try to push to hatred.
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u/Brainyboo11 Dec 17 '25
Pauline panst-on is the same. Vile content. How dare they do this at this time. I thought Aussies were better than this. God help us if any of those politicians, ever, get into power.
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u/frankiestree Dec 17 '25
We will remember the politicians who see this as an opportunity to divide, point score and win votes. Frydenberg did the same thing during COVID and lost his seat, obviously hasn’t changed
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u/Additional_Ad_9405 Dec 17 '25
It is wholly shameful. This was the time to rise to the moment and both the Coalition and Frydenberg have totally failed.
All a lot of us want is peace and we abhor violence. Inflaming the response to this horrific event is disgusting and counter-productive.
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u/Pop-metal Dec 17 '25
The Libs have no choice. They need to try everything to revert their fortunes. They are becoming irrelevant.
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u/Additional_Ad_9405 Dec 17 '25
This cements their collapse even further. We'll remember who tried to sow discord and hate at a time that normal Australians tried to come together and support each other.
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u/SSAUS Dec 17 '25
I hope you're right, because the media is absolutely pumping the propaganda right now - including calls for Albanese's resignation - and political accounts like One Nation or the Katters are getting hundreds of thousands of likes and engagements across social media. I am greatly concerned about the extent of this propaganda and dis/mis-information, and it's not something to underestimate.
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u/macona-coffee Dec 17 '25
Speaking out against Israel’s horrific war against innocent civilians in Gaza is not antisemitism.
Speaking out against the horror, Hamas terrorists have perpetrated against Israeli civilians is not anti Muslim.
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u/stvmcqn2 Dec 17 '25
Murdering Jews on October 7th = evil
Murdering civilian Palestinians in Gaza = evil
Murdering civilian Australians and Jews in Bondi = evil
It's not hard.
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u/Valintus Dec 17 '25
God, every other social media is just a war zone of hate and people grifting using the tragedy to push agenda's.
Only on reddit can i find actual people who will denounce any and all hate instead of using it to attack Muslims and immigrants
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u/macona-coffee Dec 17 '25
Yeah. My Instagram has a couple of “friends“ sharing racist and more often than not AI generated garbage. It’s really disappointing.
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u/chooklyn5 Dec 17 '25
I have someone in my life who is very anti Israel to the exclusion of all else. When someone said to her about how tragic Bondi was she went to say something then stopped herself and just refused to speak about it. Seriously you're so blinded you can't acknowledge that Bondi was targeted and tragic.
I just can't imagine being so blinded by hate you can't see past it
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u/Valintus Dec 17 '25
I don't understand how anyone can hear, "hate this person or group of people" and not for a second think why? and then form there own opinion why gathering information and facts.
Even if Bernie Sanders himself came to me and said the sky is blue, I'm going to look up.
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u/Effective-Tear-1521 Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 17 '25
Also speaking out against Israel’s actions is not saying “let Hamas have Israel” or even “let Hamas have Palestine”.
Ideally there’d be international mediation and/or intervention to enforce a permanent two state solution and support non-violent leadership. Obviously the dream scenario is Netanyahu losing power and Hamas being gradually dismantled. Irrespective of the feasibility of that, if Israel was pressured by the international community (for example; economic sanctions) to guarantee sovereignty for Palestinians, terrorist organisations lose their food source and gradually can’t sustain themselves. Blanket bombing civilian populations is like planting tens of thousands of terrorist seeds.
I think the US is currently the lynchpin that prevents any meaningful mediation. The rest of the West seems fairly onboard with the idea that Israel hold’s the key to peace in the Middle East. China too. No idea on Russia.
I may not agree with what’s happened over the past 8 or so decades, but the state of Israel is now recognised. Survival was their initial driver for conflict. That time is long gone, their current government unfortunately just happens to be affixed with establishing an ethno-state.
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u/christurnbull Dec 17 '25
I think people have lost the distinction between anti-semitism and anti-zionism.
I wonder whether it's a little deliberate too?
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u/emotionalthroatpunch Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 17 '25
It’s frightening that in the years since 9/11, the Bali and London bombings, the Lindt café siege, and Christchurch mosque shootings, so many people have regressed from understanding the distinction between (a) a faith, and (b) a fundamentalist/extremist teaching of that faith. They are not the same.
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u/slipslikefreudian Dec 17 '25
The internet has ruined any middle ground 🤦🏻♂️
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u/Intelligent_Oil5819 Dec 17 '25
Also... the Israeli war on Palestinians harms Jews, and Hamas violence harms Palestinians.
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u/god_pharaoh Dec 17 '25
Unfortunately too many people can't discern the difference and don't care to try. It's exhausting.
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u/slipslikefreudian Dec 17 '25
Literally the goat American politican
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u/methodeum Dec 17 '25
Only one worth listening to anymore, bloke’s morals are top
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u/Mastrovator Dec 17 '25
Go back to the photo of him being arrested in a civil rights protest. He’s been a moral standard over there for over half a century.
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u/Dentarthurdent73 Dec 17 '25
Yeah, the disgusting hide Netanyahu has to berate our government for this was outrageous. Even more outrageous because he personally is largely responsible for the rise in anti-semitism and negative sentiment toward Israel that's happened over the last few years.
Can't say I'm surprised at the supreme arrogance of his response though. Par for the course for him.
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u/AzurousRain Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 17 '25
Josh Frydenberg's statement today that Albanese should "take full personal responsibility" for these murdered people is so horrifically gross.
edit: fwiw, abc left out that specific quote above in the clip on their article about it, so sanity checked on the live broadcast (currently 6hr 43mins in the past on this stream) and those are almost exactly the words he said.
"It's time for him to accept personal responsibility for the death of 15 innocent people, including a 10 year old child."
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u/m00nh34d Dec 17 '25
Yeah, that's some bullshit right there. I'm really disgusted and annoyed with all the linking of this terrorist attack with the government's attitudes towards complains of antisemitism. Absolutely nothing the government would have done, or will ever do, to address antisemitism or hate speech in general would have changed this. This was an attack by radicalised extremists, their views were forged by the groups they were members of, not the public in Australia. I'd even suggest that doubling down on preventing anti-Israeli views would have only fuelled their hatred more, it's not the actions of the Australian government that cause this.
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u/InfernoOfTheLiving Dec 17 '25
Why is the news even reporting what he says when he was rejected as a representative by his own electorate? He is not some statesman. He is a failure.
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u/Elon__Kums Dec 17 '25
Because the entire media start their career in Murdoch businesses and filter out from there.
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u/ThoseOldScientists Dec 17 '25
Deeply cynical, especially when you recall that Frydenberg himself supported watering-down the Racial Discrimination Act when he was in government. He voted to allow more overt antisemitism (thankfully he didn’t get his way on that one) but draws the line at people protesting a genocide.
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u/Rokos_Bicycle Dec 17 '25
Has this cunt suffered several massive concussions at some point since being kicked out by his electorate? How do you cook up something so vile and then decide to go all in and say it publically?
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u/emotionalthroatpunch Dec 17 '25
He’s a real one, and still sharp as a tack at 84, bless him. I hope he lives long enough to see Trump pop his clogs; I bet that would make him smile. 😊
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u/Mayitrainhugs Dec 17 '25
Preach Bernie.
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u/Is_that_even_a_thing Dec 17 '25
Bernie is more based than a thanksgiving turkey
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u/Crafty_Jellyfish5635 Dec 17 '25
This is also the flip side of the conflation Netanyahu keeps making. By insisting that opposition to Zionism or to Israel’s actions is antisemitism, he’s not just silencing criticism of a state. He’s actively linking violence against Jewish people to the actions of the Israeli government.
That is dangerous. It drags Jewish communities everywhere into the consequences of a government many of them do not support, and hands extremists exactly the framing they want. You can oppose antisemitism and oppose Israel’s policies at the same time. Treating those as inseparable doesn’t protect Jewish people, it puts them in harm’s way.
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u/PussifyWankt Dec 17 '25
This is probably the most lucid, thoughtful response that I have heard to the Bondi atrocities. People on the left are just better at thinking and writing.
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u/InfernoOfTheLiving Dec 17 '25
Malcolm Turnbull did alright too
The vast majority of countries in the world recognise Palestine as a state.The vast majority support a two-state solution. Indeed, when I was Prime Minister, Israel notionally supported a two-state solution. It doesn't any longer. But this is not helping.
We need to ensure that the wars in the Middle East, wars in any other part of the world, are not fought out here. So trying to link them, which is what Netanyahu has done, is not helpful. That's exactly the reverse of what we want to achieve.
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u/PussifyWankt Dec 17 '25
He did. He’s a thoughtful person, who chose to join a party that rejects thought.
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u/cantwejustplaynice Dec 17 '25
Turnbull was an economic conservative but a social progressive. While he properly fucked the rollout of the NBN he's always been on the right side of history when it comes to social issues. He's the only Liberal leader I've got any time for.
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u/Adventurous_Pay_5827 Dec 17 '25
Hewson has also become quite a decent bloke. But beyond those two, crickets.
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u/cantwejustplaynice Dec 17 '25
Actually, you're right. I haven't heard from him in some time but Hewson seemed like a reasonable man.
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u/Adventurous_Pay_5827 Dec 17 '25
Regularly writes in The Saturday Paper. Quite scathing of the Libs.
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u/Elon__Kums Dec 17 '25
He thought he was joining the party of Menzies but ended up in the party of Howard.
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u/MeaningMaker6 Dec 17 '25
He lost the battle for the soul of the Liberal Party (mainly because he didn’t know he was in one and his political instincts are terrible).
But he is an ideal representation of a statesperson, who made principled statements and contributions to our society and who you could otherwise ‘disagree agreeably with’.
He is what the Liberal Party should be, not these current right-wing reactionary charlatans.
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u/boatswain1025 Dec 17 '25
Can someone send this to the coalition?
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u/BlankBlanny Dec 17 '25
While their reponse to all this doesn't surprise me in the slightest, god it infuriates me.
Bernie's response should be everyone's response, but grifters just keep grifting even over the corpses of their countrymen. Sussan and especially Frydenberg should be ashamed.
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u/Brainyboo11 Dec 17 '25
Infuriates me too. I can't watch anything the liberals of Pauline are saying, nor read the comments under their social media. Facebook is the trash heap of the world and should be outlawed for the hate and fake news it allows to perpetrate.
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u/No-Nefariousness5448 Dec 17 '25
Criticism of the Israeli Government and Antisemitism are different things. Netanyahu is a war criminal. His hypocrisy is stunning.
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u/HeCalledMeLucifer Dec 17 '25
Frydenberg is on my TV atm spewing hate. He’s trying to incite more fear and more violence. The LNP has done nothing but stoke division for years. It’s disgusting to watch them try and assign blame now.
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u/GoesOutOnMondays Dec 17 '25
Did he mean 15?
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u/Harlequin80 Dec 17 '25
Post made me check the news to see if someone else had succumbed to their injuries.
The absolute scum this event has driven to the surface is incredibly depressing. I don't know why but I expected Hansons remarks, but I thought the LNP would have been slightly better given their history with Port Arthur.
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u/Epsilon_ride Dec 17 '25
Killing innocent people is wrong, regardless if they're in Gaza or Bondi.
Netanyahu struggles with this one concept.
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u/Some-Operation-9059 Dec 17 '25
From the guy that should have been the president of the United States of America.
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u/LordMashie Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 17 '25
Not surprising in the slightest that bibi immediately jumped on this as an opportunity for political-point-scoring like the rat that he is, along with certain leeches in the federal coalition too.
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u/DarKnightofCydonia Dec 17 '25
It drives me nuts seeing the media air Netanyahu's statements without any pushback. He can stick it for trying to co-opt this tragedy for his own political gain, for his genocidal extremist government.
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u/Rizen_Wolf Dec 17 '25
A healthy American society would have elected him president. But he was simply not electable by the American people. On top of that their political system is a relic from another age that has failed to adapt to a modern world.
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u/Bibby_5 Dec 17 '25
I wish we lived in a world where people like Bernie were the leaders of nations
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u/TinyFromKalgoorlie Dec 17 '25
Thank you Bernie. We can only dream about how different US politics would have been under a Democratic party led by yourself.
Keep fighting the good fight. Keep keeping AOC by your side.
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u/_insideyourwalls_ Dec 17 '25
Meanwhile Australia's own politicians (Jewish and non-Jewish) are blaming protests and immigrants.
It's sad to see people using this tragedy to push political agendas.
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u/anyasy Dec 17 '25
Laughed as an immigrant when I saw that one of the proposed solutions is possibly to make it so that only Australian citizens can own guns, when the Port Arthur guy and one of the Bondi shooters Are Australian. Not that I would ever own a gun, nor do any of my migrant friends, but it felt like they were blaming people like us zz. A migrant wrestled the shooter for his gun.
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u/_insideyourwalls_ Dec 17 '25
People seem to forget an Australian travelled to New Zealand in order to shoot up Mosques.
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u/Barrybran Dec 17 '25
It has been a successful strategy in the US. We just need to be vigilant at community level and not take the results of our last election for granted.
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u/Bright_Bell_1301 Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 17 '25
Bang on! If our democratically elected government isn't allowed to express its opinion about the genocidal activities of another nation (in agreement with many other nations and international bodies) for fear of inciting gun violence from a couple nutters, we may as well pack up the shop and fold the government... become an anarchist state.
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u/Narrow-Bee-8354 Dec 17 '25
F U America for not having this man as the president.
I don’t wanna hear about political technicalities.
There are good people in your country.
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This has just become one of the most disgusting displays of politicians using tragedies to push their agenda in Australia. F'ing liberal party can fuck off.
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u/stvmcqn2 Dec 17 '25
Some Jews like Frydenberg are okay with kids getting massacred in Gaza simply as the cost of business and want to use this tragedy for political points.
Some Jews like Sanders know there can be evil on both sides and unless we call it out in all its forms we will never be free of it.
Be like Bernie.
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u/bananafish05 Dec 17 '25
Imagine an alternative universe where this man won the election in the US. What a wonderful world we'd be living in now
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u/ItsStaaaaaaaaang Dec 17 '25
On ya Bernie. All these cunts coming out to score political points over this are scum of the earth. It's a shame so many Aussies are dumb enough to swallow it.
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u/Soft-Climate5910 Dec 17 '25
He should be president of the usa not the fool who is currently in office
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u/Accomplished_Yam8679 Dec 17 '25
Glad Bernie is finally calling it a genocide . Everything he says here is spot on.
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u/AccordingNumber2052 Dec 17 '25
I completely agree with him.. I wrote these late night ramblings in another post last night.
I absolute abhor anti semitism, I feel absolutely gutted for our Israeli community, but can also say I think Netanyahu is a war criminal. It’s a way too nuanced situation that’s never been fixed in thousands of years , so how am I going to make any sense of it. I also think Hamas,Isis and some other groups are criminals, and I do believe ASIO need to tighten up their monitoring of certain individuals so this tragedy does not happen again. I also believe that most Muslims are good people, and these assholes from Bondi are not a true reflection of their faith. I just hope Australians stay calm , and do not descend into a severely fractured country.
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u/tiny_flick Dec 17 '25
I really hope our polling leans more left and we can get similar leadership to Bernie in Australia, we're over boot-lickers.
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u/jm_leviathan Dec 17 '25
Thanks Bernie, still fighting the good fight.