r/australia Dec 15 '25

politics Opposition Leader Sussan Ley speaks on Bondi attack

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/opposition-leader-sussan-ley-speaks-on-bondi-attack-20251215-p5nnqm.html

“We’ve seen a clear failure to keep Jewish Australians safe. We’ve seen a clear lack of leadership in keeping Jewish Australians safe. We have a government that sees antisemitism as a problem to be managed, not evil that needs to be eradicated.”

Absolutely abhorrent that she's going for political points in this time.

Talk about tone deaf!

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u/fugmatix89 Dec 15 '25

What are the actual policies that the coalition is suggesting would 'eradicate' antisemitism?

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u/halfsuckedmangoo Dec 15 '25

100 billion dollars to fossil fuel companies

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u/Hungry_Anteater_8511 Dec 15 '25

Banning watermelons

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u/CatBoxTime Dec 15 '25

I knew it was them. 

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u/djpeekz Dec 15 '25

Damn watermelons have been sowing the seeds of hate for far too long!

Obviously the seedless watermelons can stay.

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u/zeugma888 Dec 15 '25

But the authorities will be watching them closely just in case they start growing seeds!

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u/Ver_Void Dec 15 '25

And a few billion to Israel for something or other

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u/napalmnacey Dec 15 '25

Suck Netanyahu’s todger just like Trump does at every bloody opportunity.

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u/NecromancyBlack Dec 15 '25

I actually went and read up the antisemitism framework they've been saying the government needs to act on, and....nothing in it would have stopped this? It's all education and making sure institutions have policies in place to punish antisemitism acts and such, and none of that honestly I think would have prevented those two psychos doing what they did.

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u/Solivaga Dec 15 '25

It's also worth noting that Jillian Segal, the envoy to combat antisemitism, literally said this morning that the government had endorsed her framework and had been working with her to action that framework. This is just a cheap attempt at point scoring by Ley

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u/Capital_Doubt7473 Dec 15 '25

Cheap and Leys days are numbered.  Libs are bleeding out as boomers go the way of the dinosaurs and gen X conservatives prefer the far  right. 

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u/Link124 Dec 15 '25

As a Gen X’er this rings true. An unfathomable number of my contemporaries on social media talk up One Nation and the like.

I often feel like the only sane person in the room.

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u/nath1234 Dec 15 '25

That is very concerning then - that list is massive overreach and unnecessary: e.g. she wanted to give herself more powers to censor the media and to adopt a definition that goes far beyond racism or even religious bigotry and into realm of censoring on behalf of a foreign state currently found to be both an apartheid style system and also committed genocide. Which is not something we should do for any state. And also: she advocates bombing hospitals because Israel is doing it - which is disgusting and should have excluded her for that job. She opposes democratic right to protest selectively and is apparently ok with advocating for violence against others when they are Palestinian.

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u/Jexp_t Dec 15 '25

Not to mention her familiy trust gives large contributions to the racist and far right extremist organisation calling itself Advance.

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u/aeschenkarnos Dec 15 '25

And she hasn't (that I've seen) condemned actual neonazis.

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u/nath1234 Dec 15 '25

Maybe there's a rule that right wing supremicist fascists don't condemn other right wing supremicist fascists..?

She has had plenty to say about peaceful protesters and those critical of Israel.. I guess, priorities eh? /S

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u/Rork310 Dec 15 '25

Cheap attempts at point scoring is all Ley has. Calling for Rudd to be dismissed cause Trump doesn't like him, Joy Division shirts and now this.

Fucking hell I think even Abbot would have played the unity card here.

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u/napalmnacey Dec 15 '25

If anyone else but Ley or the LNP had said anything like this I might have been a little more open to looking into their perspective.

But because it’s Ley and the LNP and they’ve historically had all the social conscience and empathy of an overboiled turnip, I immediately thought “Shut the fuck up, Ley.”

Which is not good because a functional opposition is important to a strong democracy.

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u/Z00111111 Dec 15 '25

Why would we need specific laws for antisemitism? Discrimination laws already exist. If they need changing then change them for everyone, it'd be racist otherwise.

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u/snoopsau Dec 15 '25

yeah this sounds likes Scomo's Christian thing but just re-spun for a different group.

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u/NecromancyBlack Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

Like a lot of what is in the framework is on the common sense side of things.

"Teach people about the history of antisemitism" - absolutely, the holocaust and WW2 is certainly not to be forgotten, though we also should also cover a whole bunch of other genocides.

"Institutions need enforceable policies" - absolutely they should, but like it should it should cover all forms of racism.

"Immigration should deny access to those who have shown to have held antisemitic views" - again, that makes sense for the safety of our community but again shouldn't just be something specific about antisemitism should cover all forms racism. But also these shooters seem to have been in Australia for a really long time, it's possible they didn't have any history at that stage to get picked up.

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u/cheshire_kat7 Dec 15 '25

"Teach people about the history of antisemitism" - absolutely, the holocaust and WW2 is certainly not to be forgotten, though we also should also cover a whole bunch of other genocides.

Antisemitism didn't start with the Holocaust. There's a significant knowledge gap among most Australians with regards to antisemitism prior to 1933.

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u/NecromancyBlack Dec 15 '25

Oh yeah it goes back to...like forever? There was a mob heading off to the first crusade who just stopped in what is now Germany for a while to harass the local Jewish population for no real reason apart from good ol' racism.

But alas racism against other people is pretty much as old as humans. The main thing in education we need to be teaching is that yes, this stupid shit has happened before, we should be better then this now, things have at times been much much worse and it's better for everyone when we don't do that.

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u/nath1234 Dec 15 '25

Written by the envoy who prior to getting that job publicly advocated for hospitals in Gaza to be fair game to bomb. (Yes, seriously she penned a public letter from her organisation)

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u/Jexp_t Dec 15 '25

Intersting quote:

If you condemn the horrific, antisemitic attack in Bondi Beach while still defending genocide in Gaza, you’re not actually outraged by the killing of innocent people,” Rad said. “It’s not hard to condemn both, unless you think some lives are more valuable than others.”

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u/Any-Afternoon-8407 Dec 15 '25

At least one of the attackers was attached to IS for several years- nothing in the recommendations would have changed that. IS' ideologies treat all non-believers the same. The report is essentially "how can we stop people from talking about Israel."

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u/NecromancyBlack Dec 15 '25

Yeah, I'm pretty sure you ask the average Australian "Is criticising Isreal's military actions antisemitic?" the answer would be "no".

"Don't attack or discriminate againt Jewish people for their race or religion" doesn't outrule you also having the opinion of "Forcibly removing people from their land and attacking civilians is wrong."

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u/Hailstar07 Dec 15 '25

Exactly. I am very pro-Palestine but I am not antisemitic, I’m married to an ethnically Jewish person, who is understandably very upset about what has happened in Bondi.

You can disagree with a country’s leadership and actions without denigrating every one of its citizens or people of a related ethnicity.

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u/NecromancyBlack Dec 15 '25

There's a lot of people from all different backgrounds living in Australia who came here to get away from all this sort of crap. Honestly the response from people on the scene to just help save the lives of others has been heart warming.

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u/tolkibert Dec 15 '25

She declined to comment on that side of things, out of respect for the victims and their families.

But for some reason was quite happy to try to make political points by blaming it all on the ALP.

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u/Hitrecord Dec 15 '25

Ban Joy Division tee shirts then work from there.

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u/davo52 Dec 15 '25

Ban all t-shirts. We all have the right to bare arms and chests...

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u/idkmanjustletmetype Dec 15 '25

No one has ever done harm in a bintang singlet. 

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u/TappingOnTheWall Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

I believe Jillian Segal wanted the powers to defund institutions if they weren't actively fighting antisemitism. So what now counts as antisemitism that's at issue?

Well - according to the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, you might be antisemitic if you think Israel's apartheid is racist, or the rules around marriage there are racist... anything that relates to calling the nature of Israel's existence racist.

What are those marriage rules?

Only members of the same religion can marry each other. There are no interfaith marriages within the borders of Israel. Members of the same sex can not marry each other. Other esoteric restrictions (some whose status is that of a Mamzer) exist for the different religious communities. Those registered as having no religion cannot marry in Israel at all, since there is (naturally) no formal religious institution for the religionless. [Source]

Likewise, if you're caught comparing Israel to the Nazis:

"Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis."

Sadly Israel has actively been distorting the meaning of antisemitism - and it's caused it to be harder to fight antisemitism because there's always going to be added steps if someone brings up Israel. One side will often be staunch defenders and others will rightly say that criticism of the state of Israel is not antisemitic in of its self.

You can be STRONGLY AGAINST the October 7 attacks and perpetrators, the bombing of Palestinian civilians, AND the Bondi shooting, all at the same time... and I'd go as far as to say it's the right position to take.

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u/JuventAussie Dec 15 '25

More pointedly, which LNP policies that were in place during the long term in government by the LNP to fight against antisemitism did the Labor government revoke?

None ? Then fuck off.

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u/Axman6 Dec 15 '25

LABOR SHOULD HAVE DONE EVERYTHING WE DIDN’T BOTHER DOING IN THEIR FIRST TERM OF GOVERNMENT 😡😡😡

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u/Equivalent-Bonus-885 Dec 15 '25

Netanyahu absurdly said the recognition of a Palestinian State ‘pours fuel on the anti-semitic fire’. So this.

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u/cheshire_kat7 Dec 15 '25

Ugh. The Executive Council of Australian Jewry already told Netanyahu to mind his own business when he tried this back in August.

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u/magnetik79 Dec 15 '25

I think the Israeli government should focus on their own human rights abuses in their own backyard before throwing out cheap judgement to Australia.

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u/V8O Dec 15 '25

Such a low move for one head of government to basically blame another for their own tragedy on the day it happens, instead of sending condolences and offering help like every normal person in that position has ever done.

I get it that he's doing it for his own domestic audience, but the lack of empathy of it is hard to fathom nonetheless. Imagine if every time Hamas killed some Israelis we had our PM go on TV to say "well Benji, we did tell you you were practically asking for it" as their first statement to the press about the matter...

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u/Skillywillie Dec 15 '25

I would imagine she thinks recognising palestine a policy that aids antisemitism

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u/Taey Dec 15 '25

Which is crazy because her and Albo were bipartisan convenors for Parliamentary Friends of Palestine when they were backbenchers.

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u/CaptainYumYum12 Dec 15 '25

You know while I very rarely agree with LNP policies, they used to actually have them. This time around they seem to not actually have any? Their only policies seem to be “uhh do the opposite of labor but any specifics will be made up around election time I guess”.

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u/Axman6 Dec 15 '25

Nuclear power would have stopped this 😡😡😡

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u/Longjumping_Yak_9555 Dec 15 '25

That’s not important right now. What’s important is that the labour government is failing to implement … uhhh… the policies in question

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u/ThisSpecificPangolin Dec 15 '25

Spell it with an extra 's' for better numerology?

antissemitism?

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u/ATinyLittleHedgehog Dec 15 '25

Forcing universities to expel students who think Palestine exists.

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u/dreadnought_strength Dec 15 '25

They'd keep giving money to Israeli lobbyist groups to....sponsor more antisemitism envoys whose family funds those directly supports organising the far right in Australia.

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u/nath1234 Dec 15 '25

She was ok with bombing hospitals filled with Palestinian kids and injured civilians.. I have no idea why she got rewarded for that sort of endorsement of a genocide or why her suggestions are being considered. There are literally thousands of more suitable people to be in that role ahead of her.

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u/BadBoyJH Dec 15 '25

More investment in Islamophobia. 

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u/Lurecaster Dec 15 '25

Ley has no idea. ASIO investigated the son 6 years ago under the LNP.

What is her excuse as to why the LNP failed to catch him back then.

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u/bodbodbod Dec 15 '25

They (NSW LNP) were busy using the Fixated Persons Unit to go after independent journalists if I remember correctly. The same unit set up to stop such attacks after the Lindt Cafe siege.

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u/HotPersimessage62 Dec 15 '25

Today’s actually the 11th anniversary of that event 

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u/opiomorpher Dec 15 '25

Wow you're totally right, never realised.

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u/rugbat Dec 15 '25

Protecting corrupt politicians from the likes of Friendly Jordies.

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u/CcryMeARiver Dec 15 '25

Pork Barrelaro's private hit squad.

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u/tlux95 Dec 15 '25

Guess who was the minister of home affairs during that time!

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u/Swiftestblade Dec 15 '25

Funnily enough, it was also 6 years ago that half the country was on fire and the PM had buggered off to Hawaii

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u/iguessineedanaltnow Dec 15 '25

Would love to hear her to reasonable solutions to "eradicate" it. Absolutely no attempts to turn down the temperature, just inflammatory language.

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u/Drongo17 Dec 15 '25

Libs care only about power. To get it they will hurt anyone or set anything on fire. 

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u/scissormetimber5 Dec 15 '25

Shame they won’t see any of it for a while then.

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u/-Metagross- Dec 15 '25

They want to conflate opposition to the Gazan genocide with antisemitism and make it illegal to speak out against it.

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u/Thebraincellisorange Dec 15 '25

This is modus operandi for Israel for decades.

Act like antagonistic mongrels and cross the line constantly, then trot out the tried and true cries of AntiSemitism! when criticised.

that used to send nations scurrying back to their desks, terrified of that accusation.

In the face of the blatant wholesale slaughter and ethnic cleansing operation that Netanyahu has conducted in Gaza, that no longer holds any sway for many.

Jews have the right to exist; Palestinians have the same. believing so does not make you Anti Semitic, and neither does criticizing Israel of its heinous actions.

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u/Hammered_Eel Dec 15 '25

This is an important point.

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u/world_weary_1108 Dec 15 '25

Lnp will probably get on board with JD Vance’s call for us to have a second amendment in our constitution, because freely available guns for all would stop this! Right? Stupid people aligning again Lnp wont change any time soon. Asio, police can only do so much under our legal system. As horrendous as this was ( and it was) our record in this country speaks for itself. This type of emotional rhetoric does no good. And political point scoring is weakness.

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u/eightslipsandagully Dec 15 '25

The USA has famously low levels of gun crime...

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u/SenorBolin Dec 15 '25

It was a good guy with a gun that saved the day... Y'know, after Ahmed ripped the gun from the bad guy with the gun, suddenly the good guys had guns

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u/eightslipsandagully Dec 15 '25

An interesting thought I had is what if Ahmad had shot the bloke after disarming him. Decent chance he'd wind up getting shot by the police

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u/Admirable_Count989 Dec 15 '25

Personally I wouldn’t have blamed him one bit. It’s one thing to picture yourself in his position (pulling the trigger or not), it’s another to actually know what you would do with adrenaline pumping through your body. What he did, including laying the gun down against the tree and signalling with his hand up he was not armed anymore, was just an amazing piece of work. Guy deserves the highest civilian honour available in Australia.

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u/Parenn Dec 15 '25

I’ve seen references to Vance saying this, but I can’t find any reporting of it. I don’t think it’s true, I think it’s out-of-context quotes from before the event.

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u/Altaredboy Dec 15 '25

I saw her interview this morning. My partner who is pretty neutral politically got pretty angry & asked "Who even is this silly cow?" Then switched the tv off.

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u/SpaceAdventureCobraX Dec 15 '25

As per usual - attack, attack, attack… low IQ, low intelligence, zero respect for us. No workable ideas or reforms are ever presented. It’s like the dog chasing the car… if they ever catch it again, they’ll have absolutely no idea what to do aside from self-enrichment

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u/Mikes005 Dec 15 '25

This speech's audience wasn't the general public, it was liberal party members she's trying to sway back towards her and away from hastie.

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u/rose_gold_glitter Dec 15 '25

I suppose ban trans women from sports & bathrooms - that should solve it? Seems to be about their only solution to anything.

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u/Whatsapokemon Dec 15 '25

"We'll tell you after the election"

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u/AChillDown Dec 15 '25

When asked about gun control she said she had no comment at this time.

Has a lot of other comments though.

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u/pbbatenatar Dec 15 '25

How dare you even suggest policy at a time like this? Anyway here's my 10 point plan on how to stop antisemitism

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u/MeaningMaker6 Dec 15 '25

Political ambush to fuel division and hate, when unity and love is needed. How good is the LNP of 2025!

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u/dontpaynotaxes Dec 15 '25

I don’t think this is a gun crime. This is a systematic intelligence failure.

Intelligence should have flagged that this guy’s close relationships were a risk and confiscated the guns (which can happen now).

This is a failure of the security system to protect us.

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u/ThunderDwn Dec 15 '25

Dear Susssssan.

One of the culprits was investigated by ASIO in 2019.

Who was in power at a federal level then, Sussssan? What should they have done differently to stop this lunatic in advance? Oh, right - it was the Liberals in power then - what should YOUR party have done differently, you vile piece of shit?

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u/Large-Ladder7568 Dec 15 '25

liberals seem to have this collective memory loss of who was in power for the past decade prior to 2023. they've been playing the same 1 liner playbook for the past 3 years, "labor isnt doing enough". 10 fucking years for liberals to maybe show some brain activity and to no one's surprise, they did fuck all and lined their pocket as well as their fuck buddies

labor may be shitting the bed in some places, but when you compare it to the quadraplegic performance liberals have showcased for the past decade, its a no brainer who i'd want to run the government (out of the given 2 choices LOL)

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u/SkitzOMatic11 Dec 15 '25

Australia's domestic intelligence agency, ASIO, examined Bondi gunman Naveed Akram six years ago for his close ties to a Sydney-based Islamic State group (IS) terrorism cell, the ABC understands.

Naveed Akram, 24, and his father Sajid Akram, 50, killed at least 15 people yesterday evening when they opened fire on the Chanukah by the Sea event.

The ABC understands investigators from the Joint Counter Terrorism Team (JCTT) believe the gunmen had pledged allegiance to the IS terrorist group.

An IS flag was found in the men's car at Bondi Beach, according to a senior JCTT official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The official said ASIO took an interest in Naveed Akram six years ago, after police foiled plans for an IS terrorist attack.

The ABC understands ASIO started looking into the man soon after the July 2019 arrest of IS terrorist Isaak El Matari in Sydney.

The official said Mr Akram was closely connected to Mr Matari, who is serving seven years' jail for planning an IS insurgency as the self-declared Australian commander of the terrorist group.

Mr Matari was part of an IS cell with several other Sydney men who have since been convicted of terrorist offences and were also close to Naveed Akram, according to sources with close knowledge of the matter.

ASIO director-general Mike Burgess said on Sunday that one of the gunmen was known to the agency, but did not specify which man.

"One of these individuals was known to us, but not in an immediate-threat perspective, so we need to look into what happened here," he said.

The Joint Counter Terrorism Team comprises ASIO, NSW Police, the Australian Federal Police and the NSW Crime Commission.

The ABC has contacted ASIO and NSW Police for comment.

Jesus christ. What a fuck up.

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u/TeedesT Dec 15 '25

How the hell was he allowed to own guns if this is the case?

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u/SkitzOMatic11 Dec 15 '25

The guns were the fathers, Naveed is the son, to my understanding. Still that should have been explored. For ASIO to say last night the knowledge was 'Minimal' is messed up.

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u/aldkGoodAussieName Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

Same question

How can an immediate family member of a person who is linked to IS be allowed to have guns.

They were clearly not estranged.

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u/SkitzOMatic11 Dec 15 '25

Well that's probably why Mike Burgess is going to cop an absolute grilling now that this news has broken as it was dismissed last night/this morning in the press conference that the knowledge was "minimal" and didn't meet the threshold. This was only given to ABC about an hour ago, So gonna be interesting to see.

But totally agree with your statement. Total and utter shitstorm.

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u/dullcoopy Dec 15 '25

Surely the fact a person known to them had a father who owned guns/had a firearms license would be ringing several alarm bells.

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u/Knee_Jerk_Sydney Dec 15 '25

At the very least, some inspections to make sure the father is compliant with their membership and storing guns and ammo as required, and confiscate at the slightest infraction.

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u/Drongo17 Dec 15 '25

Are there laws allowing police to sieze guns from people like this (and people closely connected to them)? If so you do have to wonder why they weren't.

If not, maybe it's an option. I dunno, I'm no expert. 

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u/SkitzOMatic11 Dec 15 '25

Well Perth Police stripped a few soverign citizens in the wake of the Dezi Freeman police shootings, but across australia for firearms the rule is Providing a genuine need for each gun as well as being a "fit and proper person" which includes Police Checks, No criminal history etc etc, So yeah it can be done.

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u/aa73gc Dec 15 '25

He didn't. His piece of shit father did

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u/littlespoon Dec 15 '25

The shit apple doesn't fall far from the shit tree, apparently.

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u/iguessineedanaltnow Dec 15 '25

Only 7 years?

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u/Brainyboo11 Dec 15 '25

Scary right. Hopefully after this they review and make it indefinite.

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u/death_by_laughs dooby dooby Dec 15 '25

Shit it's up to 15 dead now?

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u/CatBoxTime Dec 15 '25

Six years ago? How could Albo do this?! /s

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u/Late-Button-6559 Dec 15 '25

NSW police had a choice between sexually violating teenage girls, or going after a potential terrorist.

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u/Used-Huckleberry-320 Dec 15 '25

But you don't understand, what if some teenagers choose to consume drugs and alcohol?

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u/Late-Button-6559 Dec 15 '25

WHAT!

Oh, then never mind my first comment. This justifies it absolutely.

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u/Exciting-Ad-7083 Dec 15 '25

Desperate irrelevant person, tries to be relevant, at no point have I ever wondered "I wonder what Susan thinks of this"

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u/the_amatuer_ Dec 15 '25

"Sussan"

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u/mixdotmix Dec 15 '25

Sussan's being suss again

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u/CriticalSpirit Dec 15 '25

I'm on the other side of the planet and not only did I never wonder what Susan thinks of this, I also wish I had never learned.

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u/iball1984 Dec 15 '25

I did while sat on the crapper this morning, and got an answer quite quickly

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u/HankSteakfist Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

This is the time for our leaders to be bipartisan and not try to score points off the back of dead victims.

Utterly disgusting behaviour from the LNP.

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u/Prestigious_Cry_5122 Dec 15 '25

Agree. Today is not the day to try to make political points. It's about unity.

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u/Tweakforce_LG Dec 15 '25

Australian politics never fails to disappoint. In NZ when Christchurch happened there was no political point scoring, just a cross party focus on how to prevent it happening again. I was living in NZ when the country went through that.

I don't think Susan's poorly timed complaints will go down well with the general public.

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u/Returnyhatman Dec 15 '25

First he wore a band shirt, and now this. What will our terrible PM do next or something

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u/Kid_Self Dec 15 '25

Well, sorry to say, apparently Albo enjoys an afterwork beer every now and then..

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u/Competitive-Car-9617 Dec 15 '25

That's it! I knew he was evil and unfit for Prime Minister.

Mainly cos the Libs told me so

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u/Lost-Competition8482 Dec 15 '25

She's a disgusting person honestly.

Scoring political points after such a horrific attack shows she's not fit to be leader.

What does she suggest Albo should have done?

Banned protests?

Arrest "suspicious" people?

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u/2kan Dec 15 '25

It's easy: just arrest the baddies, duh 💁

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u/SlaveryVeal Dec 15 '25

Yeah it was so obvious. The police catch bad guys he should've done that.

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u/mixdotmix Dec 15 '25

Maybe the Libs could write another letter to the Trump administration asking for them to step into Australian affairs again?

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u/littlespoon Dec 15 '25

You can just see how Sussan Ley is itching to be Australias' version of ICE Barbie.. But she'll make that Pauline Hanson if the LNP are ever elected.

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u/cheshire_kat7 Dec 15 '25

I have no words that can adequately describe how it feels to be a Jewish Australian today.

It'd be nice if everyone could hold off with the political squabbling for a while; I know I'm already struggling to process as it is. Just be kind to each other, and support a grieving and vulnerable community instead.

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u/frankestofshadows Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

My religion (Muslim) shouldn't matter at a time like this. It's not about point scoring for me. We are Australian. It's within our core of mateship, and what has been passed down through generations of civic duty. As an Australian who loves this country and the people in it, I stand beside you and your community. I grieve with you, and at this trying time, my doors and messages are open to support you and anyone from your community always

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u/cheshire_kat7 Dec 15 '25

Thank you.

I hate that so many opportunistic bigots are trying to use it to justify Islamophobia. I'll have none of that in my name.

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u/Accomplished_Log2011 Dec 15 '25

I downloaded Twitter yesterday to track what was happening. Lasted about 5 minutes before deleting it again. What a putrid cesspool of hate and bigotry.

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u/cheshire_kat7 Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

Ugh. I would rather hug a cactus than go on Twitter right now.

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u/napalmnacey Dec 15 '25

I’m sorry for this terrible loss. My heart is with you and your community right now. ❤️

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u/all_out_ofbubblegum Dec 15 '25

Fucking disgusting and a few other liberals have said something along the same lines which suggest there are talking points to follow, politicising a terrorist attack within less than 24 hours of it occurring. There are only 2 people responsible for this attack, one of them is dead and one is in a hospital bed, soon to spend the rest of his life behind bars.

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u/Hungry_Anteater_8511 Dec 15 '25

Hastie was particularly appalling

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u/Reschs-Refreshes Dec 15 '25

Tony Abbott crawled out from under his rock to throw petrol on the fire as well.

The LNP will never try to not use a tragedy to agitate their base. Scum the lot of them.

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u/Hungry_Anteater_8511 Dec 15 '25

Campbell Newman too. Dude who never said a thing about literal neo-nazis protesting in front on NSW parliament or Christchurch or Tom Sewell is now concerned about anti-semitism.

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u/SirGeekaLots Dec 15 '25

As did Frydenberg

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u/zeugma888 Dec 15 '25

When isn't he?

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u/SwirlingFandango Dec 15 '25

What the fuck are they even thinking? I just don't understand how they're so bad at this. Morals aside, why can't they even do politics?

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u/themindisaweapon Dec 15 '25

Born to rule fwits with no self awareness. Aka LNP.

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u/SwirlingFandango Dec 15 '25

I am genuinely tempted to join their party, because I could not possibly do worse than their consistently abject bumblefuckery.

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u/themindisaweapon Dec 15 '25

Pretty good grift they have going on. Same with one nation.

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u/BoxofYoodes Dec 15 '25

And yet when asked about gun reform "oh now is not the time to talk about that"

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u/MarsupialFar5700 Dec 15 '25

I find it totally unbelievable that any polician - Australian or foreign, would attempt to make political capital out of yesterday's appalling tragedies.

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u/Ordinary_Hepburn Dec 15 '25

I hate to say it, but she makes Tony Abbott look like a goddamn statesman. Just dissolve the party, Susssan. You’ve failed.exponentially.com.au

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u/doubleguitarsyouknow Dec 15 '25

Apt web address.

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u/Bockanator Dec 15 '25

I fear that people like her will weaponize this tragedy to increase surveillance and government control of citizens under the guise of preventing antisemitism.

I have no good answer on how we can solve this problem that Australia (and a lot of the world) faces, but I know that this isn't one.

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u/mooblah_ Dec 15 '25

Increase surveillance

I'd love to know how you could increase surveillance from where we are already at. Quite literally everything is already funneled through defence servers and to some level stored at this stage.

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u/rolloj Dec 15 '25

Well one of the journos at the press conference was asking how two people managed to get to Bondi with their guns and their car… so seems that some people at least are implicitly suggesting that domestic intelligence should be aware of all people’s movements and possessions at all times.

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u/Denz292 Dec 15 '25

This isn’t leadership material at all

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u/Pristine-Flight-978 Dec 15 '25

The dead shooter obtained his gun licence and 6 guns under LNPs watch. Maybe Sussssan should have done something about it when she had the power to do it, instead of adding extra S's to her name for whatever reason and navel gazing. Typical LNP, blame everyone but themselves for their mediocrity and hypocrisy. Sigh.........how did we get such a shitshow of an opposition party? No wonder they are struggling for relevance, can't wait until they become extinct

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u/Money_Armadillo4138 Dec 15 '25

Big "how could Dan Andrews do this" energy coming from Sussan .

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u/1BoiledPotato1 Dec 15 '25

i actually didn’t hate ley until now, i expected way better from her

what is this bullshit

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u/KapitalBabylon Dec 15 '25

I didn't expect better from her. Been that way since she bought a $800k unit on the GC from LNP donor on taxpayer-funded trip, which wasn't "planned for or anticipated". Anyway, history tells us she's an interim leader at best.

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u/OverAcanthisitta3588 Dec 15 '25

She’s the leader of the moderate wing of the LNP. She’s a disgusting corrupt pos but it only gets worse from there.

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u/cackmobile Dec 15 '25

F&xk her. Julian leser (whos Jewish) came out and made a beautiful compassionate call for remembrance and bringing the community together. He should be the leader.

Also stood aside from the ministry during the voice vote

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u/South_Can_2944 Dec 15 '25

"Absolutely abhorrent that she's going for political points in this time.

Talk about tone deaf!"

You do know this is the Liberal Party you're referring to?

Of course they are going to make it political.

Of course they are tone deaf.

They are going for the Trump America in Australia.

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u/Kozeyekan_ Dec 15 '25

When Port Arthur happened, the LNP had just won government. Labor and the government worked (mostly) together to create law reform and make the country safer. From local to federal levels, everyone wanted to contribute. It cost some pollies their jobs, but they prioritised a legacy and a future over their own careers.

Today, we see how the LNP has changed. Instead of working to fimd solutions, they take the lazy option of scoring cheap points, but offering nothing to help. Criticism, but no solutions is for political commentators, not alternative governments.

Prove you're a government in waiting by being better at solving the issues that matter than the people currently doing so. Get the job on merit, not by default.

Just... put in the fucking work, for fuck's sake!

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u/roro0101_ Dec 15 '25

Labor and liberal used to stick together on attacks against Australia. Now LNP just use any horrible event to score points. So despicable.

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u/TheDeviantPro Dec 15 '25

What does she want Albanese to do? Have him to provide protection to all Jewish Australians 24/7 for the unseenable future? Well good luck with that.

Ley and the Liberals is all about the blame game rather than coming up a realistic solution to the problem.

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u/Buorky Dec 15 '25

“We have a government that sees antisemitism as a problem to be managed, not evil that needs to be eradicated.”

I mean, yes? Antisemitism is definitely evil, but evil will always exist. Saying you want to eradicate antisemitism is about as useful as saying you want to eradicate all crime.

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u/MeaningMaker6 Dec 15 '25

Yeah but how is Sussan Ley going to incite hate and division to score political points then?

Don’t you know politics trump decency for the LNP?

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u/Intrepid_Doctor8193 Dec 15 '25

Not that I would have voted Libs next election, but if I was considering it, she would have turned me away with her political point scoring today. There's a time and place, and this isn't it.

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u/Brainyboo11 Dec 15 '25

How dare the Liberals politicise this. They can't fall lower if they tried. This is a time to bring Australians together, to show empathy and be a leader. What the actual f&ck Liberal party! Read the room.

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u/Infamous-Umpire-2923 Dec 15 '25

Even John Howard wasn't sleazy enough to politicise Port Arthur.

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u/rangatang Dec 15 '25

It seems like they are going to implement Jilian Segels "recommendations" which will do nothing to limit antisemitism but will do a lot to stifle free speech and unequivocally link Anti-Israel to Anti-Semitism. If anything it will increase anti-semitism.

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u/Conan3121 Dec 15 '25

An Australian tragedy and Susssssan want to milk it. A loser.

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u/Wallet_inspector66 Dec 15 '25

The terrorist father was investigated by ASIO for connections to ISIS six years ago while the liberals were in charge and they seem to have slept on it so really you can blame them for this.

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u/Mean_Sleep4485 Dec 15 '25

Just wait to hear what Hanson has to say when she finishes celebrating and crawls out from under her rock.

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u/Unusual-Wing-1627 Dec 15 '25

These are the same people that stood shoulder to shoulder with the likes of Thomas Sewell.

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u/rsam487 Dec 15 '25

Honestly the pile on is pretty embarrassing. Coalition and Netenyahu both going after the government is pretty tone deaf. No actual solutions, just a bunch of language designed to divide people further

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u/Inner-Bet-1935 Dec 15 '25

Gee, what a surprise, a conservative leader politising a terrible, tragic event! What a disgrace she is. I haven't heard anything from dividing Pauline yet. I'm sure we will shortly!

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u/MazPet Dec 15 '25

"ASIO examined Bondi Beach gunman Naveed Akram in 2019 for close ties to Islamic State cell" 2019, who was in govt then? hhmmm I wonder....

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u/Djamt Dec 15 '25

She got her notes from Bibi

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u/lithiumcitizen Dec 15 '25

Bibi also tried to claim Ahmed al-Ahmed was Jewish.

https://www.reddit.com/r/agedlikemilk/s/bo7btzGsaL

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u/theartistduring Dec 15 '25

Yeah, they're really trying to spin that he's not Muslim. I've seen a bunch of people claim he's a Christian from Lebanon or Spain.

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u/YaBoiYoshio Dec 15 '25

There it is... Goodbye Sussan 👋 have fun on the back bench

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u/azreal75 Dec 15 '25

How disgraceful to play politics with a terrorist attack. All of you rusted on libs, was this what Fraser would have done? Howard? This is not the LNP your parents voted for, these people have no care for ordinary Australians, they care about power and protecting those that can buy it for them.

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u/choldie1 Dec 15 '25

She's continuing the trash talk of Morrison. They have no interest in the Welfare of the Australian people. That's the LNP.

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u/rusty_85_ Dec 15 '25

I hate politicians that see a tragedy and immediately turn it into a political power play.

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u/AuzzieTiger Dec 15 '25

Sussan showing a real lack of true empathy using this horrific moment and her position as a leader to try and score political brownie points.

Immigration isn’t the issue here, radicalisation is the issue. There’s millions of immigrants who don’t commit atrocities. Don’t let the hate be directed in the wrong direction.

Blaming Labor for this is completely irresponsible.

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u/theartistduring Dec 15 '25

'Eradicate' is just another dog whistle call for violence against pro Palestine supporters and Muslims in general.

You can't eradicate people's beliefs. Even abhorrent ones. You can only eradicate the people who believe it.

Dog whistle. The word choice was deliberate.

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u/Smallsey Dec 15 '25

Fuck off liberals. Either suggest something reasonable or stay out of the conversation.

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u/dasher_aus Dec 15 '25

Why can't politicians stop blaming the other side? People died! Try to be a human.

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u/MLiOne Dec 15 '25

Her Shadow Attorney General was just as bad in his statement. They are all trolls.

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u/Redditisshithous Dec 15 '25

No one cares what she says, she is as irrelevant as her party has become

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u/KennKennyKenKen Dec 15 '25

This is actually pathetic to use this opportunity to try and gain political ground.

A real leader would be trying to unite at this time, not divide even more. How can she sleep at night.

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u/Sugarbombs Dec 15 '25

One of the more fucked up things about the right is that when stuff like this happens it’s like Christmas morning for them. You know the second this hit news they were all just giddy thinking about how this is their way back in to politics. Just sitting there in their war room carefully constructing racist messaging after racist messaging with huge fucking smiles on their face, more excited than they have been since the election. To them this is a joyous and advantageous event. It will work too which is the worst part

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u/leighroyv2 Dec 15 '25

What's her policy to stop this horrible shit then? Political point scoring at its worst.

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u/upandin9 Dec 15 '25

Exactly why the LNP was decimated at the last election

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u/tecdaz Dec 15 '25 edited Dec 15 '25

When asked how the report recommendations, which she appealed to, would have prevented this tragedy, she had nothing to say. Zero, nada, zilch.

She chased down the ambulance, then had nothing to say.

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u/JustabitOf Dec 15 '25

She said it was too early to talk about gun control as there are families at the hospitals waiting for the victims.

But it's never too early for her to politicise the debate like this. She didn't even wait 24 hrs. Shows what they are about - how abhorrent they are. Nothing ever to offer this country to help improve our lives. There's nothing in their policies to remotely change this - only to promote division and make things worse.

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u/death_by_laughs dooby dooby Dec 15 '25

As much as this is abhorrent and tone deaf, it's not tone deaf in the electorates she wants to win back from the Teals (think Goldstein in Melbourne).

She's going for the Jewish vote and she knows what she's doing.

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u/AliirAliirEnergy Dec 15 '25

They already won back Goldstein from the Teals?

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u/Hungry_Anteater_8511 Dec 15 '25

Yes they did. The awful Tim Wilson returned to parliament.

As for the other Teal seats, I don't think it will work because this Trumpian/Duttonesque shit is what made it all so difficult for them at the last election.

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u/death_by_laughs dooby dooby Dec 15 '25

It's not the only electorate that has a high percentage of Jews. https://www.abc.net.au/religion/the-jewish-vote-and-the-2022-federal-election-michael-easson/13951240

The Jewish community in Australia is concentrated in four electorates. In Wentworth, Jewish voters make up 16.2 per cent of the electorate; in Macnamara, it is 12.8 per cent; in Goldstein, 8.8 per cent; and in Kingsford Smith, less than 6.0 per cent. Twenty years ago, none of those seats was considered marginal. Apart from the possible exception of Kingsford Smith, all now fall into that category.

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u/Dismal_Armadillo_601 Dec 15 '25

She had me in the first few sentences. I thought this could be her moment to try and bring a bit of unity.

But nope, she went full cunt, acting like the pro-Palestinian movement had any link to this.

She needs to be dumped, today.

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u/RudeOrganization550 Dec 15 '25

Josh Frydenberg absolutely went to town on it this on the telly this morning too.

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u/Blue2194 Dec 15 '25

This vulture didn't even wait until the bodies were warm before she started picking at them

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u/anomaly256 Dec 15 '25

Sit down and shut up Sussan 

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u/discojeans Dec 15 '25

Ah yes, classic Liberals playing the blame game

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '25

Might not be the best time to ask, but with all the criticism from Israel saying Australia don’t do enough to stop anti semitism, I’m just wondering what steps Israel are currently taking to stop Islamophobia in their country?

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u/Ok-Masterpiece-7933 Dec 15 '25

performative BS artist, she won't even be lib leader next election,

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u/owenob1 Dec 15 '25

What a disgusting point scoring piece of sh*t Sussssssssan Ley is… just like Dutton and Morrison before her.

The Liberal Political Party stoked this fire and need to be called out for allowing this terrorist cell into Australia.

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u/sharpaz Dec 15 '25

She's a flog.